2 T206 Mysteries
 

Can anyone identify both of them? (Johnny, stop drooling)

http://runscott.homestead.com/Cards/T206Mystery.jpeg

Bescher
 

I assume the individual on the Piedmont back is Bescher, Cincinnati from the reverse player name on the bottom of the card under the factory stamp.

Not sure of the other...

The transfer on the back appears to be T206 Bescher.
Not sure about the one on the front yet.

uh
 

Joe Jackson and Ty Cobb. Do I win?

Lol mordecaibrown - identical response time :)

I think the front transfer is Chase Blue or Pink Portrait. (leaning towards pink since it's in red)

Schlei portrait... right?
 

I'd recognize that shoulder anywhere... Schlei portrait, correct?

Creepy.

Whoops!!!!

Darn - I thought you were right, then I posted the image and realized that you were not. Good guess.

Chief Meyers
 

Ill take a guess that the other picture is Chief Meyers Portrait - looks like the right jaw line and nose/mouth.

Thats my other guess besides Bescher.

And yes Trae - great minds and timing on that earlier one.

haha. I did not even notice his name at the bottom.

http://runscott.homestead.com/Cards/...scherPort.jpeg

No. Bailiff - whack his peepee

Also not Meyers, Chase or Schlei.

Duh... Wiltse
 

I always get the Wiltse (portrait with cap) and Schlei portraits confused...

I did an overlay of Chase Pink in Photoshop and it fit A+ for the front transfer. I'm pretty confident that's who it is.

The front overlay looks kind of like Jennings portrait.

Wiltse - do I win a card!

Hmm, maybe B+ after all... very close though.

http://co.llect.com/i/12511/vKO39.gif

Erick is right that the actual card is Wiltse. I hadn't thought that the red image might be someone else. The ghost looks like Wiltse to me, but my eyes aren't great.

Here's Wiltse, consulting his ghostly advisor:

http://runscott.homestead.com/Cards/...PortGhost.jpeg

Oh... yep... Wiltse is a perfect fit in Photoshop. The front is the same card. Good call. :)

And sweet frickin' card, by the way! :D

Thanks Trae!

These two were among about 500 raw T206's and T205's I just received - no other anomalies, but as many oddball T206's as I've owned, this Wiltse might be my favorite.

Scott!!
 

You've been bitten again!!LOL

when u get sick of those cards..........;)


please ....please...pleaseLOL:D

Hey, look what I found. It's kind of difficult to see, but this is a Sweet Cap wet sheet on the front of a Piedmont-backed card - I've never seen this before.

http://runscott.homestead.com/Cards/...sPortDtl_2.jpg

wet sheet
 

Scott!

i see it....i have a polar bear front /wet sheet on a sweet cap!!

i'll see if i can get a scan...

Thank God your back:D

finally another veteran freak like meLOL:D

usually a card with a dull wet sheet like that is really 2 cards that was stored tightly for many years together so the ink transferred that way, especially if it was humid.

I had thousands of Oakland Invader bumperstickers (with a radio ad on back) all rubber banded together for 25+ years and now 99.9% are basically ruined because of this...

That makes sense, but they were stored crooked :)

:( yes, I'm addicted to freak cards. I tried to ignore it, but it's like malaria.

As soon as I saw the Wiltse in the first post, it reminded me of another T206.

Wilson (not mine)

Nice cards by the way!


Jantz

I used to be a middleman for an eccentric collector who had three (possibly more) 'Ty Cobb' backed Ty Cobbs. Another showed up and he said "get if for me". I replied, "Why?, you've got three." He responded, "That card belongs in my collection - it should not belong to anyone but me." His attitude kind of creeped me out at the time, but...

...I need that Wilson - it belongs with my Wiltse.

Scott - The Wilson was listed on Ebay and ended without a sale. It was then relisted and ended after a day or two by the seller with no bids.

wiltse
 

Scot!!

it was st clair cards...he wanted like 2 k.....way too much, but a nice guy, i talked to him....he has a starr missing magenta wanted like 2 k for that, i missed it on the bay 3 years ago for $450:mad:....

Scott, boy u got the fever againLOL...btw...can u get me a cobb back??;)

I WISH!!!i would need to hit the lottery:D

I have a similar one.. thought I would share..
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/g...newghost-1.jpg

Attachment 50913

Attachment 50914

My one and only - that I know of. I prefer the off set (double image) on the front vs. stuff on the backs.
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/w.../mcqt206-1.jpg

wet stacks
 

JIm and Jamie

sweet "wet stacks"

name wet stacks are very rare......usually the caption never makes it!!!

SWEET CARDS

I have to get in on this, black/blue layer offset.

http://i.imgur.com/4VPVW.jpg

He's crying because he just cut off a finger.

freaks
 

LOL Scott!! # finger.....:D

Your right, that was dorner double struck!! 350....

couldn't remember player:o

your one of the ones besides art that got me into these :mad:LOL!!! now i can't even find them

only kidding.......:)

Those are some cool images! Here are a few more along with close ups(Warhop, Dorner). The second one is Dorner.

sweet cards
 

Warhop and dorner sweet!!!

A few you might remember
 

Hug this:

http://runscott.homestead.com/Cards/Scraps/223Hug2g.jpg

Huggins...
 

Scott...

I have been!!;)

haha. Well, at least steal my scan - yours kinda sux (no offense).

I have an idea - send all your cards to me and I'll scan them for you...and send them back at some point.

I have been hunting that Downey/Cassidy double front for a while, current owner no response :( thanks for sharing as that is a much nicer scan.

Scan
 

LOL Scott!!
my pics do suk:D

I wish i had that milan!! did chan get that??

Hey Scott

I remember you having 2 upside down backs and they did really well on ebay but I passed on them because I picked this one up for 30 bucks in a group of Sweet Caps

Attachment 50972 Attachment 50973

Nice card - that's the way to do it!

Yes, the Huggins was one of them. I picked up those two in a huge lot of ungraded cards from Mastro - I paid way too much for the lot, but just wanted a bunch of cards to sort through, so it satisfied my craving. Those two cards helped me to break even on the lot - there weren't any keepers in it other than those two.

I found ALL the scans of my old T206 collection, and have 'culled' the tough backs and 'printers scrap'. I'm thinking of doing a small website with nothing but freak cards like this, grouping them by type, and inviting you all to send scans for inclusion.

Those upside down backs are cool. I've had a few miscuts but nothing upside down. Johnny got this one from me...

http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/...06Hemphill.jpg

But I still have these two modest miscuts:

http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/...6MattyComb.jpghttp://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/..._WhiteComb.jpg

Another White, from the same series/factory, but upside-down:

http://runscott.homestead.com/Cards/Scraps/502Whig.jpg

McLean
 

That McLean is awesome @jimonym!

Jim, Scott, Jay AWESOME CARDS!!!!

Jim,

i love the batch! top and bottom sheets like that i love;)

Jamie,

love the mclean....posting my mclean scrap.......POST the ford/phillipe!!

more to come...

Here you go...

http://www.jimonym.com/PF.jpg

Middlemen . . . ?
 

I've often wondered if middle men exist in the hobby. Would people hire you to hunt down cards on their want list for them? What kind of fees did you take as a middleman?

t206
 

Jamie!!

Thanks for my fix!!LOL;) i can't get sick of that card...u know someday i might have to seriuos cheddar on that:D

your tolstoi ford scrap next???please??? i love that card also, you have some beauties hull;)

Leon,

how bout the Matty again???:)

I only have a few odd T206s. Here's one handcut but looks like the complete print. Either that or it's the worst trim job ever.

Steve B
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...pictureid=1877

I wonder if that's a case of Dad bringing home a sheet of cards and giving it to Junior, along with a pair of cheap scissors?

Just for Johnny V because he talked about these cards today with me at my work. This scan is upside down, it is four cards, three of them came from one old collection, the older looking one was just a lucky buy that had no back scan

t206 "sheet"
 

Johnny!!

Great to see you today:D.....i enjoy your Pirates articles under your sig...keep em coming:cool:


Your 4 4 backs are just AWESOME!!!

dude, you know where someday they might make a home;)

Thanks V and thanks for reading the articles, I need all the page views I can get so I can stop working a real job and just write :)

The cards will be yours someday I'm sure. I told you though, I won't sell them for less than $50 each unless you buy all four at once, then it is $175 with free in person delivery

Don't do it - he would just tape them together.

How are you doing on your second T206 set?

t206 "sheet"
 

Johnny-


Done!!SOLD IT, SOLD IT , SOLD IT!!:D

Scott,

Going to duck tape them together!!!;)

did u upload your freak scans yet??i'm salivating......:o

one more time
 

One more time for Johnny......You do get excited Johnny, and I love it.....that's what it's all about...

http://luckeycards.com/pt206mattyproofandregularx2.jpg

Well in early 2005 I had about 130 cards towards my 2nd set and as of this morning, since I just checked the mail but didn't get anything, I am still around 130 towards that 2nd set. I was just looking for some upgrades but I can't find my list of cards I wanted to upgrade so I haven't bought anything.

He won't be able to tape the cards together so don't worry, I put them in a plastic mold so they are impossible to get to without destroying the cards in the process

Hi John D.
 

It's been a while since we last talked. How are the BB cards shows in the Toms River - Brick Town area ?

I'm curious.....what players are pictured on the front of your 4-card (or 6-card) panel ?


Best regards,

TED Z

Someone with better skillz is taking this project - I'll be putting my scans on my server, and he'll take it from there. I'm REAL busy scanning cards right now to sell before Christmas, so little time for anything else....other than starting trouble here.

I have an extra body part I would trade for that.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_snjcA0GCaB...homerdrool.png

Lol!!!!
 

YOU GUYS ROCK!!;)


Leon,

please please please leave multi strike and matty for me??:D

going to get a second job and work for twenty years for it:)

and i will:o

Scott,

i hope you are sending them where i think you are;)

keep them coming...your one of the main collectors who got me hooked on the freaks.....wish i did the downey also....:mad:


These cards are calling me!!HELP:eek:

Here are the fronts.

I havent seen the Bricktown show listed for about 2 years now, unless I totally missed it I'd say they stopped it. I work about a mile from where they hold it and they usually advertise it weeks in advance and I believe the last one I went to was 2009

t206
 

Johnny,

those are going look so sweet with my others!;)

The Brick show Suked;) 2009 last one

Known adjacent cards. Any more name on top/side by side scans out there?

http://i.imgur.com/jwiN2.jpg

Chris

There are other T206s out there with 2 different names. My count at the moment is 21 different T206s. 6 of those 21 are in your post

As far as side by side miscuts that show 2 different players. I was aware of 6 until this thread. Your Murray and the Stephens posted earlier are new ones to me.

Any chance that you could post the back info on the Murray (back brand-series-factory number)?

I do have scans & back info for most of these T206s, but unfortunately due to PC problems, I don't have access to the scans at the moment. Some of the info is available though and I will pass it along to you if you like.


Jantz

Great freak show.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...t206kingfb.jpg

I had this one at one time. Sold it to someone here (can't recall who).

Chase with Zimmerman on top.

http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/...tachment-1.jpg

That was me...
 

I was the one who purchased the Chase-Zimmermann... and I also found this Bradley-Bender on eBay recently which was just described as "partial name on top"

Those are great cards.

Jantz, if you do get to a pc please send over any others you have.

atx840@gmail.com

Sent them to you
 

Chris, I just sent you the versions I have (all 21).

Based on the 21 known double name cards. High res available.

http://i.imgur.com/PnVuu.jpg

Nice work Chris
 

Excellent work; I don't know for sure, but it might be possible to determine the multi-pose subjects on "top" based on the the back + series.

For example, the Bradley-Bender is a P150 and based on the "Consolidated Lists" thread, only the Bender Portrait is in P150.

If it can be confirmed which pose that would be great, I have very little back info on these.