OT:Osama Is Dead
 

Great day for Americans, Obama will soon be having a live statement about him being dead, according to CNN.

My condolences to the family.:D
Burn in Hell OBL.

Sitting here it feels like one of those "Where were you" moments. Very strange, as I never expected it to actually happen.

I am overcome with joy....incredible feeling.

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Anyone watching Sunday Night Baseball? The Philly crowd went nuts.

From my mission (2002) in Texas

Could not of happened to a more deserving person!

Well, I guess he's hoping for an endless glass of icewater for where he's going.

God bless America.

Wow talk about a surreal moment.Thank God he wont be around for the 10 year anniversary.

No question it's great news. Parade his corpse through NYC I say.
But our "friends" Pakistan had likely been harboring the bearded clown forever and a day :mad:

I hope he did not get to go out on his terms the way Hitler did and that someone was able to take him out in person so for at least a moment he felt a fraction of the pain he caused thousands of others. I also hope that we learn more about the operation and how it all went down.

Despite all the other crap that is going on, America is still the greatest Country in the World!

I feel the same way, but I'm just glad to know that it wasn't a drone strike. At least this way (whether he took his own life or not), at least he knew American forces were on hot on his ass.

Congrats Mr. Bush on a successful mission. I only wish This would have happened when I was there back in the beginning. God Bess our Troops. Semper Fi

Justice is done. Now I just pray that the revenge his followers take can be keep under control.

Uh..., the president under whose command this happened was Barack Obama.
JimB

Lololololol

Good riddance OBL!
 

I'm usually in Manhattan several days a week, and whenever I passed by, or saw, Ground Zero I wished that Osama bin Laden would burn in hell.

It's nice to see that sometimes wishes can come true.

Hank

Yes, but Hank -- violence is never the answer.

+1

Larry

This is absolutely amazing and very great news to hear!!!!:D:eek:


Obama is the hero for killing him!!!

not to mess up anyone's cheerios,...
 

and don't get me wrong as I am happy for the news, as I was there and running for my life 10 years ago, but am I the only one who kinda shudders at the sight of the crowd outside the White House with their fists in the air and celebrating the news? It just kinda looked like that could have been a crowd in any country,...even those anti-American ones we always see plastered all over the news channels...just thought it was a little eerie, seeing that in the US.....

but it IS nice to have something to celebrate!

From what I've heard he was fully aware that he was about to be killed. He was using a human shield to protect himself so it sounds like the soldiers and he were face to face. Good riddance!

Both presidents deserve partial credit here. I'd say Bush more than Obama, but that's just my opinion. This never would've happened without Mr. Bush. The true credit belongs to our troops though.. I believe the main intel came from the same interrogation methods that were a hot topic during the last election, and being spun as inhumane. It's funny how a candidate/party can talk all the trash he wants about the previous administration and their actions, and then when he gets into office, and is made aware of "all" information, he realizes why things are/were the way they were...

I'm not trying to blast Obama or the Democratic party here. This same type of thing happens election after election from candidates of all parties. It's nothing more than political posturing..

Anyways, let's not argue politics, and just rejoice in a great moment for not only America, but for people of all nations..

It will be interesting to see how many T206 Wagners are found when bin Laden's family goes through his attic.

Odds
 

Latest Over/Under is +3

The interesting thing would be the look on his face when he realizes on the "other side" that there arent 40 virgins waiting for him.

There will be many items from the Osama bin Laden bunker autographed by the troops who killed him and Osama himself, in the upcoming Coaches Corner auction.

------------To funny------------------

According to Family Guy there should be 72.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cmN2cVOr5W4

Burial at Sea
 

I thought Obama cared about the environment. He should be prosecuted for polluting the seas.

If you gave me the trillion dollars it cost and gave me a 10 year window,I would of grabbed up my British special forces mates and we would have done it for that price as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A fitting and well-deserved end.

NOW WHAT:confused:

A bright day for democracy
 

Regardless of who was responsible for getting Osama it is a great day for democracy in all the world. No doubt we need to be on heightened alert as the terrorists will want to show they are still alive and well (all except the main one of course). Thanks to those brave Seals who did the dirty work. We should all be very grateful for what they accomplished. As much as I don't want this to be a political thread I will say that it also took some courage for President Obama to direct the attack the way he did. It would have been a bit less risky for him (politically) had he just bombed the whole compound. I congratulate him and President Bush for a job well done. And to all Net54'ers......lets keep this up beat and not make it a totally political thread where we get on each others nerves. So far so good. I am proud of ya'll. regards

Agreed entirely. When people took to the streets dancing after 9/11 I thought it was classless and idiotic. For me, the masses at the White House last night had a similar feel.

Don't get me wrong. Bin Laden being dead is a good thing. Certainly justice was served, but I think quiet reverence for his victims would have been a better course.

The difference is, the 3,000 or so people that were killed weren't the #1 terrorist in the world. This should be rightfully celebrated, especially by those that were deeply touched by 9/11.

Ummmm, Obama did not kill anyone, the Commandos did and deserve 100% of the credit...

I hope they kept digital photos of the body before getting rid of it. You know, just to have a record of it.

One major question remains and may never be answered now. Did Bin Laden ever receive his REA catalog???

Awesome...

Good one.:)

I have no issue with celebrating the death of a mass murderer. I have more of an issue with this serious thread devolving into sophomoric humor, as it appears to have done.

It's a great unifying day for the Country. Hopefully people can put aside differences and share a common relief and sense of pride, even if only breifly.

I'm glad he got to feel the fear during, what I believe was reported to be roughly a 40 minute raid, before he met his end. We got to look him in the eye before he died and personally deiliver a shot instead of with a drone or airstrike. If it's true that he did use a woman as a human shield, what a cowardly way to go out. A fitting end indeed....

I hope this is the event that begins getting some of our troops home.

Curt probably wanted me to post this here:

http://content.usatoday.com/communit...uslim-burial/1

Press conference said earlier the female was Osama's wife. Would not elaborate on how she wound up in front of Osama.......

Amen, Curt!

I don't know if I can really agree with Curt on this one. While Bin Laden may not have been deserving of a Muslim burial, the fact remains that he was still Muslim. A radical Muslim sure, but a Muslim nonetheless. Now as Americans we are taught to respect the religions of any individual regardless of their actions, even if those actions are somehow religiously based. His radical actions should not have been tolerated, and they weren't. He payed with his life for it. The man still deserved a proper muslim burial based on the core of his faith, not his actions. 99% of the people in this country(myself included) would've rather set the guy on fire and pissed it out over and over again until there was nothing left, but that is not our decision to make...We did the right thing giving him a proper Muslim burial. It shows that we as a nation can think and act rationally no matter how much hatred we may have for an individual.

Agreed...we are supposed to be better than the terrorists and we do that with our actions. We did not drag Timothy McVeigh through the streets...it's not about offending or trying not to offend..it's about doing the right thing. we killed him...we can't make him any more dead than he already is.

Curt is a pure, unfiltered idiot. Im glad we got our guy.

+1 well said...

Bin Laden didn't deserve a proper burial for the simple fact that he perverted the tenets of islam and thus was not a true muslim. Disposing of him properly, however, gives the rest of the radical nutcakes one less reason to kill a few innocent people. They kill for simple cartoons so who knows how many would have to die to satisfy their anger at an improper burial?

Howard Rosen

As a nation, when did we start respecting the burial customs of our enemies? We've killed tens of thousands of Muslims in the war on terror. Are you telling me that our government ensured that they each received a proper Muslim burial?

This was done for pure political reasons so that we would not ruffle any feathers in the Muslim world. Otherwise, why even announce how he was buried? Is it important?

And to anybody that thinks he deserved a proper Muslim burial, I have a question for you. Had we captured him alive instead, should he have received a proper Muslim trial?

question
 

I understand your thinking David but let me ask you this question. It goes hand in hand with Howard's view right above. Had they not done a proper Muslim burial, and it gave further cause for the radical jihadists to kill innocent people, would it still be worth it not to give a proper Muslim burial? No, he absolutely didn't deserve one for what he did, however that is not the question to me. The evil person is already dead. He got exactly what he deserved.

Also, I am in agreement with those that have said that we Americans should try to take the high road on these matters and show the rest of the world we are above the terrorists lunacy. Just my half cent......

Leon,

Obviously the answer is no. If the killing of OBL would bring an end to jihadists attacks, then it would absolutely be worth a proper Muslim burial. However, you and I (and the rest of this board) know that the respect we gave OBL will not do that.

They have never needed a reason to kill innocent people. What was their reason for 9/11? We can't live our lives in fear from the jihadists and keep kissing their ass. People think if we play nice, then they'll play nice. It just deosn't work that way.

Leon,

You asked a reasonable question and I gave you an answer. Now, I have a question for you (or anybody else that wants to answer). If some jihadist, after hearing the news about OBL, was planning a terrorist attack in retaliation, do you honestly think it matters one way or another in their mind whether we gave OBL a proper Muslim burial? Do you think that would change their mind?

Has anyone considered that the burial at sea story is just that, a story to cover the fact that the body is in the U.S. possession for further analysis.

a hornets nest
 

Hornets will attack sometimes regardless of what we do. I prefer not to swat the nest. To each their own.

No, there is nothing we can do to change the mind of a jihadist who has it out for us...but that has nothing to do with whether or not we should give a proper burial..we are above them, we are civilized. Giving a proper burial demonstrates that.

edited to add: "Them" in my post above refers to terrorists, not Muslims.

Can we at least confirm he wont be bidding on the scrap book on eBay? :)

Re-read post #54

Edited to add: Nevermind, you don't have to go back and re-read it. Let me post it again:

As a nation, when did we start respecting the burial customs of our enemies? We've killed tens of thousands of Muslims in the war on terror. Are you telling me that our government ensured that they each received a proper Muslim burial?

This was done for pure political reasons so that we would not ruffle any feathers in the Muslim world. Otherwise, why even announce how he was buried? Is it important?

And to anybody that thinks he deserved a proper Muslim burial, I have a question for you. Had we captured him alive instead, should he have received a proper Muslim trial?

There is no single place on the face of this earth that I'd rather be than anywhere in the United States of America. Period.

Or that he's been dead for a while now, but nobody knows for sure, because nobody can find either him or a body.

Fake a raid and his death. Announce it to the world, and see if he comes out of the shadows. If he does, then we know he's still out there and we can play it off like the hoax was all part of the plan to find him. If nothing turns up, then call it confirmation of his death, keep it on the hush, and continue to pretend like they really did just kill him. The symbolism would keep America's hopes high.

Not that I really believe this, but anything's possible. I apologize if this theory offends anyone, but I just watched "Flags of our Fathers" the other day. So conspiracies of this sort are kind of fresh in my mind.. I'd prefer just going with what we've been told for now.

Re-read post #44. :p

Where would Net54 would be without sophomoric humor? It'd be like rock n' roll without feedback.

When I see a hornets nest and it looks like they might attack, I don't try to appease them by donning a protective bee suit every time I want to go outside. I destroy the nest and keep destroying them every time more found more. I don't live my life in fear of hornets, but like you said, to each their own.

No trial. We know what he is. The world knows what he is. He get's what he got. The world is better off. The burial on the other hand is a different story. It wasn't about respect for him, but for the core of his religious beliefs and as a symbol to others that share in those beliefs... It's called humanity. Some justice was served in death and you leave it at that. In most religions, a non-proper burial is viewed as desecration and sacrilege. Here in the US, we are not in the business of supporting the defiling of dead bodies(which in many religions are viewed as a temple), and disrespecting the religious beliefs of others. For ANY reason.

Today, assets of the United States killed Osama Bin Laden and took custody of his body. God Bless America!!

You're right. You wouldn't don a protective bee suit, and you would destroy the nest. That much I can agree with. But you wouldn't destroy that nest and then taunt the other nests to "come get some".

David, I certainly understand what you are saying. Schilling's point was (and I agree), why do we have to comply with his religious beliefs when he didn't even adhere to those beliefs? True Muslims know that he perverted the beliefs of Islam for his own purposes.

Nobody said we had to defile his body. The point was he did not deserve a Muslim burial because he did not adhere to the Muslim beliefs. I may be wrong, but I really think that devout Muslims would agree.

Denying the body of a Muslim a proper Muslim burial is defiling it.. Whether deserved or not...

He wasn't a Muslim. The fact that he identified himself as a Muslim doesn't make him a Muslim. He didn't adhere to Mulsim doctrine. Charles Manson said he was Jesus. Did you get down on your knees and worship him? No, his actions showed he is not Jesus just as OBL's actions prove he is not a Muslim. Period. End of story. You couldn't me more wrong on this matter.

I'm satisfied with the way things ended for Osama. If he had been taken alive it would have been a complete nightmare. He's gone & I'm very comfortable with that.

We're better than those savage animals, period, whether we gave that pig a Muslim burial or not. I could care less what they did with his body as long as it was a dead body.

As for the handwringing over some celebration of UBL's death -- that's the first death that America has celebrated in 10 years -- and he killed 3000 innocent Americans. Muslims in the Middle East dance in the streets and hand out candy every time an American plane crashes, a head is cut off or Lara Logan is raped. Or when an entire Israeli family was murdered in Itamar -- including a 3 month old baby whose head was nearly severed with a knife. Lots of celebrating by Muslims then. Direct all consternation about gruesome displays of celebration to them, not us.

You asked a reasonable question and I gave you an answer. Now, I have a question for you (or anybody else that wants to answer). If some jihadist, after hearing the news about OBL, was planning a terrorist attack in retaliation, do you honestly think it matters one way or another in their mind whether we gave OBL a proper Muslim burial? Do you think that would change their mind?
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It would not stop any planned attack but it would avoid riling up angry radical muslim idiots who would then form mobs and attack American or European citizens (because we are all the same to them), consulates, and/or embassies. It happens every time someone gets a speck of dust on the koran, draws a picture of allah or writes or says that islam just might not be the greatest religion ever.

+1

I'm glad to know what we can do to prevent them from getting rilied up against us. Just curious though, what riled them up for the first World Trade Center attack, the U.S.S Cole attack or the 9/11 attacks, and what could we have done from riling them up all those times and prevented those attacks?

Edited to add: Why can't people just admit that there are bad people in this world who want to kill us and don't need any reason to get "riled up?"

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Radical Islam is a cancer which needs to be eradicated. All the appeasement and all the Kumbaya by a bunch of pansies won't change that.