Anonymity on the board?
 

Just to make sure all of our newer members understand the board with respect to remaining anonymous I want to post this one thread. You can stay anonymous to everyone (except moderators) unless you get in a heated debate or anything that is controversial. Sportscardtheory said he didn't want his name out there, and that is fine, he is now banned. I might lift the ban though and delete his membership, if he will quit threatening to sue me :) (I wish I had a nickel for every time I was threatened with a suit). Then he will be able to read it again but not post. My feelings are that this board is a heck of a lot more legitimate if we have this type of rule but I am open for discussion on the topic. regards

I'd like for him to waste money with a law suit. Then he'd be worse off than he currently is, and maybe he'd be less quick to threaten lawsuits. And, I now think everyone should just use their names... didn't used to think that, but now do. If they don't want what they're saying associated with their name then they probably shouldn't be saying it. Maybe a policy of disclosing names of those threatening or suggesting legal action would help. Hang tough, Leon. I'd post the scan of a quarter with this if I had one handy.

there was a thread on anonymity some time ago and I remember thinking there was no reason not to show your name but there were several good reasons posted for remaining anonmous that changed my mind.

You should be able to have your option except for the above situations.

agree on both points
 

While I agree with Frank in essence I do understand that some professions need a bit of anonymity. For that reason it is allowed unless what happened happened. :) I will "unban" Sportscardstheory so he can read the board. I just wish folks wouldn't be so sue-happy all of the time over fairly trivial matters. My goodness....

Anonymity is for the internet tough guys..... if you cant put your name to your words then shut your pie hole!!! and go play somewhere else!

My name is JIM DRYSDALE!!!!!

Anonymity is accepted on the board if you are partaking in a discussion about rare T206 backs.

But if you get into personal attacks with board members then it is not acceptable. If I were attacked I would want to know who my enemies are.

To sue he'd have to reveal his name.

Sportscardtheory
 

Ok....maybe I acted too quickly on banning Sportscardtheory and I have unbanned him. He does now know to be careful on the board. A work around solution might be to only email members, when warranted, the names of those they are arguing with, if the member doesn't want their posted. There are valid reasons to not have it posted.....For me, I could care less but I do understand others' situations are different.

Leon, I thought when the board switched over from the old format to this one
anonymity was a thing of the past and that we can see who the poster is
(if he chose not to have his name on the posts) via the "profile" feature.
Not sure why this isn't the case anymore. I for one like top know who the
person is that I'm reading or commenting to.

Anonymity
 

Leon, I appreciate your effort on the board and the fact you try to do the right thing. You have made this board a place to not only pick up cards otherwise not available to most, but also a great place to learn about cards in general, stay current on trends in the hobby and meet some really nice people within the hobby. Just use your best judgment on this anonymity issue.
I also agree with Barry, anonymity sucks if someone flames you and you have no clue who the evildoer is who is causing trouble. That's troubling... :(
tbob

First-off, thank you, Leon, for re-instating me. I know you want things to be a certain way here and I apologize if I caused any waves. It was not even close to being my intention.

I was corresponding with Leon through e-mails after being banned and explained my mind-set. Initially, I specifically asked Leon not to post my name, and that if he must, to delete my account instead. The "rules" here call for names to be exposed for some reason and I just couldn't, and still don't, understand it. But that is for future discussion. For anyone interested, I didn't threaten to sue over being banned. I said I would to talk to my lawyer if someone ended up doing something that lead to my identity being stolen, or something similar. I don't want my name posted on message boards, not because I won't back up what I'm saying, but because I simply don't trust anyone. Why should I, really. When someone is pissed at you on a message board, I find it rather concerning that they would even WANT your name. What good can possibly come of that.

Anyway, I will certainly watch my tone in the future. I post on a political forum with relaxed TOS, so sometimes I'm jumping back-and-forth and my etiquette follows me from there. I'm sorry if I offended anyone who's original intent wasn't to offend me. ; )

thanks
 

Thanks for the kind words Tbob.

Jay- I don't think there was ever a place on the board that you could see someone's name. That information isn't even captured in the software it's captured in my email box, upon the 2nd part of the registration. No where in the back end of the registration IN THE S/W is there a place you have to put your full name. I do have them on file though.

As I said, I think a work around will be that I will privately email folks when there is a need. I have already done that this evening and will continue. That seems like it can satisfy everyone. (though I realize satisfying everyone is impossible)

I think identity theft is a legit reason to have concern. Awhile back I read in a couple of threads about people hijacking ebay accounts.I still do not understand how someone does this, but because I pretty much stopped buying on ebay, I removed my ebay ID from my profile page. If for some reason a board member would like to know it, send a PM. About the same time, I removed my last name, and replaced it with my last initial.

Clayton

I pretty much agree with Fubar.

How many times in the 9-year history of this forum have we had to endure someone saying they needed to be anonymous, only to quickly discover that they were pulling some shenanigans? I lost count a while ago.

There's a difference between anonymity and privacy that escapes some people.


Bill

I dont think anonymous people should be allowed to participate on the BST either, but thats just my opinion!

Jim,

I guess I never thought of that, but I completely agree with you on this. As a buyer, we should be able to know who were are dealing with.

r/
Frank

identity
 

I've never understood why anyone would either want to share his real name or know another poster's real name on an internet chatboard. Who cares if you are fighting with Johnny Tacos or BaseballCardGuru69? It's still fighting with a random dude sitting at a computer somewhere.

For all you should care, my real name is T206Collector. I don't hide behind any other names and I never change my Net54 name. I've never met any of you and have no immediate plans to meet any of you anytime soon. To me, Net54 is not an Internet man-dating service!

I don't even know or care if Barry Sloate is a real name or a pseudonym for Jimmy Cheeseburger. Either way, I know where he stands vis-a-vis his Net54 personality.

It's actually an alias for Barry Goat.

I don't like anonymity at all. Everywhere I see it on the internet, there are nothing but problems. People seem to be a lot nicer to each other if they know who they are communicating with ...

:dlol!

T206 Collector (and I do know your real name): I like to know who is on the other side of the keyboard. That is important to me. These are real people I am interacting with, and many of them I know from my years in the business. It would embarrass me if I were communicating anonymously with someone and then discovered I had known him for a long time. And I like to know who the good guys are and who the bad guys are. It may not be important to you, but I like to know. It's a personal matter with each poster whether or not he wants to know who's out there, and not something to be dismissed with a blanket statement.

There may be a genuine business reason to know -- and many Net54'ers like to meet up at Nationals and shows and pizza parties just for fun. To each his own.

My only point is that I don't know if Chris Counts is a real name or not -- and save for checking his driver's license or passport we may never really know. In the context of a guy you've never met and will never meet, can you explain why knowing his real name versus a made up name makes a difference?

A great part of the enjoyment of this hobby for me personally is meeting other collectors, dealers, etc,.... However, I do respect T206's decision not to want to.

good point
 

This is a very good point, Bill. I guess what I/we have already said is you can have privacy but not anonymity because we will let folks know who others are in private correspondence. There is, and never will be, total anonymity on this board again (since the last board s/w). There have been less than a handful of registrants who didn't want to give the 3 required pieces of information and they are not members. I can't see that rule changing or me bending on it. Privacy, is another matter and really is what is being debated here. I think, and hope, the solution is the emailing of names when warranted, in a private manner. This is one of those issues that will never be perfect, it can't be. Everyone has a bit of a different opinion so, it's not been broken, and I doubt it will be fixed. regards

?
 

Jim did you want to post your S.S.# and any pin #s or bank account info ?
LOL

let someone steal my identity... would suck to be them to go through all that effort for nothing... im sure they would feel sorry for me, send me their money and apologize to me!!!!

Leon,
Obviously I agree with full disclosure. For everyone else I live somewhere in Florida - good look finding me. By the way watch out for my security.

dh

My Name is: Not Important
 

Ideally, everyone should use their real names when getting together as friends to discuss a common passion. But, from my personal standpoint, I came here looking for answers and even though I read the board before joining, there was enough bickering and accusations flying about that I wasn't sure who could be trusted.

As I have mentioned already, I'm not a collector, but an appreciator who knew nothing about the hobby at all when I first joined. I do know of other forums where people have been personally targeted through their online personalities and information that they have given throughout their membership. Pieces of info that by themselves offer nothing too personal, but over years of posting, enough little pieces that allowed them to be targeted in their home.

Now here I come along, trying to determine the value of something I own and yea, I'm a bit nervous about revealing specific details about who I am.

I really liked the way Leon runs this board, so when he insisted I had to provide my real info, I did. He called to confirm, we had a nice chat, and he told me that if I merited him outing me he would. Since I'm not about to tell any of you guys any lies or piss in the hands that are feeding me the info I can't look up on my own, this is not a problem.

I can only lightly participate in certain threads, that I feel I might contribute something or make a joke, cause I'm a funny f@#%er like a lot of you guys, but mostly I listen and learn.

It's been a fascinating journey so far, so much so that I will terribly miss my cards once they are all sold. And that is my intention. However, in another life, who knows, maybe I would've been a collector.
Or as Marlon Brando might say, "I could have been a collector".

Now, if I inadvertently step on any toes or cause a ruckus (he said ruckus :eek:), I will be glad to meet you in person where we can then exchange information and fill out an accident report.

I have no problem letting you know who I really am, if need be, and can only let everyone here know that everything I say is truthful and I will never ever try to deceive anyone.

Geez, Leon never phoned me, you must be someone special !!

I totally agree, and this post was hilarious! :D

Thanks for the laugh. Now if you were from Wyoming, well besides scaring sheep, we could probably find you :).

Wow, this is a tough crowd. I've been accused of a few things in my 35 years + of collecting vintage cards, but nobody has ever suggested I'm not Chris Counts. Here, T206 Collector, is a scan of my drivers license, minus the stuff identity thieves are after. I think I have a copy of my birth certificate around as well. Does it need to be certified? :)

Sorry to pick your name as an example. You chose to block certain info from your Driver's License. That's where you (literally) draw your line. I draw mine a bit earlier is all.

My name is Jeff Lichtman and anyone who has a problem with me or my posts can go pound sand.

-Al

choice
 

Rawn Hill, who wants to be me?

Rawn

Now I'm really confused. I thought his real name was Barry Sloth! :)

Sorry Barry, I just had to. Ole Reginald sure like to jab at you for some reason.

Jantz - aka Jantz

I find this thread interesting.

I'm on a mailing list for one of my other hobbies (Collecting old racing bicycles)
And the guy that runs it insists on everyone knowing who everyone else is.
We have to sign off each message with our actual name, and location, spelling out the state so non-U.S. members can understand it. I know of exactly 0 identity problems in 10 years.

But I can understand some of the security concerns. A wonderful bike collection is less altogether than some high end cards or memorabilia.
(My most expensive bike is maybe in the league of a t206 green Cobb for a rough idea) so there's less financial risk.

Identity theft is a concern, but rarely from having ones name on a board like this. I know I'll never convince those who don't think so.

But I will say this, there's FAR more risk of identity theft at the local restauraunt. Usually the card is out of your physical possession, and it's very easy to copy the imprinted info as well as the validation code. This can be done in under 20 seconds by nearly anyone. And with a skimmer that figure falls to under 5 seconds.

You also give up far more info of a personal nature any time you use a credit or ATM card to make a purchase or use a shoppers discount card. Most of them store purchase and demographic info that's mostly used for targeted marketing. That's how the hardware store can send me a coupon for sawzall blades or a $10 gift certificate for my birthday. And almost everyone considers that to be a benefit rather than an invasion of privacy. (I won't even get started on your bank turning the computer loose on your purchase history to "look for fraud" )


Personally I find it interesting to know who I'm talking to, and what their hobby background is. On the bike list, one member has raced internationally in 6 day races back in the 40's -50's he learned from guys that raced in the 30's, and he's in the US cycling hall of fame. His opinion about how the racing was done and how the racers treated the bikes (Like any other tool) counts a bit more than say...Mine with my one season of beginners racing which included a whole lot of DNFs.

Steve B
or as the bike guys get to see it
Steve Birmingham
Lowell, Massachusetts
USA

Calvindog, who the hell are you anyway? Imagine hiding behind a name like that.

Sorry, Leon...but I'm hiding behind my User ID. So there.

I agree with what Bill said far above. I like to know who I am dealing with.

I also think anyone using the BST should be known, much bigger difference than just posting.

Jantz- I've heard that one before, since I was a kid. Hey, you have to have a sense of humor.:) They also call me Sloateman.

Anonymity is fine in the entirely card related threads we have. But once the personal insults start flying, and the history of the board is that they will fly pretty regularly, you need to identify yourself or stay out of the fray.

It's important for me to put my name out there because I take full responsibility for what I say. Whether I deliver a pearl of wisdom or another idiotic post, I want the board to know who said it. I don't like when people make brash statements yet remain unknown.

I agree with Barry
 

If you wish to be anonymous and contribute to a discussion about T-206 backs or what was your 1st pre-war card; etc -- then by all means your name need not be mentioned.

On the other hand, if you get involved in a controversial thread; and you start attacking someone; then it is a basic human right that you are able to face your opponent. Not providing a name, is not valid in that case.

I do understand some reasons for wanting to remain anonymous and thus; perhaps the better solution is to contact Leon IN ADVANCE of a post and explain WHY you wish to remain so. And frankly, ID theft is not a good enough reason at that point. There are so many more efficient ways for your ID to be stolen, the restaurant example is one, and frankly anytime you use an ATM could be another if a skimmer was set up there,....

Regards
Rich

theft got nothing to do with it
 

My reasons for remaining anonymous are personal, and have nothing to do with wanting to avoid identity theft, which is basically zero risk on here unless you share a credit card or SSN with someone.

For those of you that want names so you can "know" who you're arguing with, just keep in mind that a name is just that -- whether it was given by your mom or you made it up when logging on here. It doesn't help you "know" your poster -- unless you "knew" him from the real world first.

to reiterate and agree
 

I agree with what Steve B said above. I have been on the internet for at least 12 yrs and nothing has happened as far as identity theft. Now, my wife goes and spends $16 on a haircut a year or two ago....pays with a check and just has this 6th sense that didn't feel right (seriously). About a month later someone printed checks on a printer with my account information and their name. After about $500 in purchases, from my bank account, I found out and closed the account. I was instantly reimbursed by my bank (Bank of America- they are great, imo). They told me "tough luck for the merchants. They didn't get proper ID." That was my only issue with identity theft and hopefully my last. ..knock on wood.

I think the best reason that I have heard for not having your name on the board is for professional reasons. Say an employer googles your name and finds it here....if you posted during the workday maybe you could get in trouble......or if you are a public type figure maybe you wouldn't want it.

For me, I am with whoever has said "They want to be me? Poor guys....let 'em. That will teach 'em!!:D"

I find it very strange and creepy that someone who is angry/upset with me for something I said on a message board wants my full name. Literally not any other forum I am on has this policy. Not one good thing can come from someone who is angry with you having your full name on the internet. "Just wanting to know" isn't good enough for me. It doesn't explain a thing. On the PSA boards a person's name came out and people scoured the internet and posted pics of that person and his girlfriend and numerous things he had said and his MySpace, facebook and twitter pages were exposed. He didn't want all those people who were upset with him for some stupid thing he said having that info. If he did, he would have given it to them himself. I have heard stories of people messing with other people's eBay accounts because they were mad at something they said on a message board. I believe that it is extremely intrusive and I see absolutely no valid explanation for it. Unless they are pulling some sort of scam, if someone doesn't want their identity exposed on a message board, it should be their right to be anonymous. The sole purpose of an internet message board is anonymity. The only possible exception in my mind is the BST.

You have your right to your opinion and I respectfully disagree with most of it. On this board, if you don't want to be known, stay out of arguments. Maybe this board has a bit higher age average and that is why we think the way we do. I think our average age is about low to mid 40's...I am 48. On this message board it is only your right to be anonymous if you stay out of arguments. It might not be the right place for everyone. I hated being so involved yesterday but it was what it was.....regards

"The sole purpose of an internet message board is anonymity."


Yup...that's why I use them...makes a lot of sense!

Interesting thread. Anyone who has done business w me knows my name, and I have nothing to hide.

I worded that strangely. I currently frequent 7 message boards and have been a part of around 10+ since I have been on the internet. Literally not one besides this one exposes your full-name because you get into a heated discussion. Again, I see not one good thing that could possibly come from it and still no one has given me a good reason. It's like handing ammo to someone who is mad at you that is holding an unloaded gun. I'm only curious is all. I don't really care all that much as I most likely will post less here because now I'm kind of paranoid that people want my personal info. I like this place a lot, but I guess it should be more a read for me with some scattered posts here and there.

One of the problems w/anonymity is that it encourages negative behavior. When I was a kid we'd play on the cb radio...and we'd harass people...total strangers...cause trouble. Same concept. If your identity is known...this type of behavior is less likely to occur...as you have to be responsible/accountable for your actions.

Lack of responsibility/accountability is running rampant these days...and is not good...and should not be encouraged.

Isn't that what moderating is for. If someone is getting out of hand, 99% of message boards will issue warnings and/or suspensions/bans, not hand out that person's personal info to anyone who wants it.

quid Pro quo
 

I could see why it annoys the people who use their real name on here to have to argue with a guy named "T206Fart". But my only point is that T206Fart and Leon Luckey are both equally "real" to me.

Sportscardtheory, T206 Collector and others: Several years ago the late Joe P. and I began a hostile exchange that sadly was never resolved. I remember I was away for the weekend and came home to a bunch of emails asking me why Joe P. attacked me so viciously. I had to get on the board to see what it was about.

And while it's no fun to get into a nasty argument with anyone, the one thing that bothered me the most was I had absolutely no idea who it was. He then used the named tobacco-r-us and nothing more. No matter how many times I asked him to reveal himself he wouldn't, but the attacks continued. He knew exactly who I was, but I had no idea who my adversary was. Do you think that is fair? Finally, after about two weeks somebody emailed me and identified him. Turns out he was an old customer who I had recently reunited with through one of my auctions. Don't you think I had a right in that situation to know his name?

Not in my opinion. If he was out of line, then he should have been "moderated". If you were both in a heated discussion, then who's to say you didn't start it just so you can get his info (strictly hypothetical). And what happened when you found out who he was? I don't understand why a person's personal info needs to be plastered all over the board just because you want it to be. (my tone is just general curiosity and not inflammatory)

This is obviously a very personal issue to you. And I am sympathetic to the unique facts of your argument with Joe P.

I think you feel exposed on here because you have always used your real name and a lot of people in the industry know you personally and professionally. Sitting in your shoes from the spotlight, I would certainly want the light shined on everyone ese.

But when I came on here, from day 1, I never wanted to post my name publicly or learn the real life info of anyone else; in nearly a decade on here I've never met member (except 2 or 3 extremely brief "here you go/thanks" in person card trades). Viewing the world from where I sit in the shade, I could care less about "real" names. And I understand and respect the importance of not being easily Google-able by, e.g., a current or future employer.

Do you know that the next time you apply for a job somewhere that they will Google you and see all of your posts on here?

Or that Michael O'Keefe might write a blog about you?

Why would you expose yourself to that?

No, I didn't start it at all. I was away for the weekend and he posted during that time. His beef was I hijacked somebody's thread which I technically did, but it was another board member who started the digression and I responded to it. Nevertheless, when I did find out it was somebody I had been friendly with in the past it affected me differently than if it were a total stranger.

We probably need to agree that we will continue to disagree on this point. And it's no big deal. But I do believe that if you post anonymously you pretty much have carte blanche to say whatever you want, no matter how outrageous and insulting it may be. You can lie, boast, curse people out, do whatever you please and nobody will ever know it's you. But if you put your name out it will hold you to a higher standard. You will be more careful with what you say. I do believe this, and I realize you may not. No hard feelings either way.

google
 

If you don't want to be googled, use a "." or a "_" in your name, how hard is that?

Your assumption is that the only Googling to be concerned about is when the search engine finds the name you used when making posts.

Agreed to respectfully disagree. I personally don't want anyone that I don't know having my personal info, but that's just me. Personal security and safety is far more important to me than someone's feelings on a message board. The internet is now a weapon, and there are a lot of looses cannons out there. Leon keeps bringing up that nothing has ever happened to him in so many years, but he is only one person. Nothing serious has happened to me either, but what about all the people that something HAS happened to. The world doesn't start and stop at our own personal experiences. I do understand that this is a privately owned and run board and we all must follow the rules or leave, so it's not an issue to me any longer. I'm just cordially discussing my opinions on the matter. : )

Well you do have the right to remain anonymous here. The trade off is you can't make personal attacks or get involved in very controversial discussions. Do you at least think that is fair? Do you think it's fair to go after someone when that individual doesn't know who you are, but you know exactly who he is?

maybe i'm dreaming
 

But I'd like the Board to be comfortable for famous/public figures with great collections to contribute.

Some of the best collectors want to limit their public exposure. Force a "real" name out of them and they'll never come on here.

I believe there are a few members of this board that have world class collections & give their full name out.

I'll agree with you if you'll acknowledge that I don't know you any better than I know Sportscardtheory and if either of you attack me, you'd still both be d1cks -- even if your "real" name is Barry.

Like Charlie Sheen, Keith Olbermann, Dmitri Young, Tom Candiotti, etc. etc.....

But you do know me. We've communicated on the board for years, you've gotten my auction catalogs, doesn't that count for something? We haven't met in person but I feel I at least know something about who you are (as well as that mysterious name). But I haven't a clue who sportscardtheory is. He prefers it that way, and so be it.

Clearly there are differing opinions on this issue. No big deal.

I'm only here for discussion. That's the big difference for me. If I was here trading and selling, then I would be fine with my name being out there. But I'm only here to learn about and discuss pre-war cards. My name and personal information is of no importance to anyone here.

Yes sportcardstheory, but your rhetoric crossed the line on the T202 Joe Jackson thread. You made a few nasty comments (please don't ask me to find them on a 512 post thread). So if you really are here only to learn, you have to be more careful with what you say.

That is actually a very fair statement IMO. and honestly, should stop the bickering.

I did say to learn and discuss. I am very opinionated and there is nothing wrong with that. I honestly still don't believe that I crossed any lines with anything I said in that thread. Most if not all of the "questionable" posts I made were in response to something I found questionable myself. Rarely if ever do I get inflammatory without being provoked in some way.

Sure we know each other on that level. And if that makes you comfortable communicating with me that's cool.

open to debate but not change......
 

I pretty much feel the way Barry does. I don't care what other boards do. This is a great subject but the rules aren't changing. Just realize that if you get into heated discussions your name will be given to others, at least privately, if asked. Maybe this board isn't the right place for everyone. At least you know where I/we stand though. regards

Is Charlie Sheen a member here? If so that's wicked cool! (Charlie, big fan of your work!)

My thoughts on this is that if you are going to conduct yourself here as a lady or gentleman then it doesn't matter whether a real or user name is employed.


If you are not going to conduct yourself in that manner, then perhaps you should go discuss things with the bouncer at a local watering hole and have him kick your butt, because I'm certain that Leon has better things to do.

No idea -- however, if he was I'm pretty sure he'd rather not be talking about his career or personal life on a public internet chatboard.

I'd like Charlie to be able to come on here as M101-5Collector and be free to speak his mind about cards without having to address his non-hobby life.

On the bike mailing list the lack on anonymity works very well. As the list owner puts it - picture it as if we're all hanging out in my garage talking about bikes. And don't say anything in print that you wouldn't say in person-

There are heated discussions, and there are guys that just won't ever get along. But even the arguments are pretty civil. The radio group on AOL that I started with was moderated, but barely, and the total anonymity led to lots of childish stuff.

I can see a need for some people to be somewhat anonymous. Someone who's a public figure - Yeah, I can see if Charlie Sheen was here he might get a lot of the typical schmoozing requests that I hear celebs are constantly subjected to.

And maybe if someone is in witness protection they might want to keep a low profile.

I can even sort of see how someone might want to be separated from their comments for job/professional reasons. Just a hint, if posting from work is going to get you fired, DON'T DO IT!
But I've got to ask if a prospective employer is going to have a problem with something said on a baseball card board doesn't that seem a bit weird. I mean if you were going for a job as a grader or one with a card company I can see it, but for anyone else?
"Oh, this guy doesn't like graded cards. I bet he's a lousy accountant"
(Not aimed at anyone in particular, just picked an issue and career)
Makes no sense at all, and for me it would be a sign that my employment there would be pretty brief anyway.


T206 collector - I'm interested in what you think you could find. Feel free to google me and report back what you've learned. If you find anything that's actually of any potential use/harm I'll be convinced. I think that about the worst you'll find is that I often lie about my birthday on signups just in case someones data gets compromised.


Steve B

Your potential employer could find it very weird, it's not like one person does the hiring, usually a whole panel does and the slightest thing that seperates you from the next canidate is often the difference. Right now for every job there are 10-200 people applying. Many people find collecting baseball cards strange, much like comic books. If they realized how much someone was spending on cardboard they might think you were insane. This may be an extreme case but could happen, I think that it is just a personal choice, some people are private and others not so much,that's all. Leon has everyones info so it isn't really private anyways.

I tend more to agree with Barry and Leon; however I certainly see the argument from both sides.

However, I have known just about all of the parties I have dealt with on the BST and that is how it should work there. Coincidentally the BST is where I have made most of my hobby friends.

Rob

This is a standard response to invasion of privacy claims: "I have nothing to hide, so why should you?"

I am confused-do people really make deals on the B/S/T and still remain anonymous? Any time I've bought or traded cards with anyone on the board I've given my full name,address,and I'm pretty sure even my phone # too. I don't see how one person would be comfortable sending the other cards or money if the person wasn't willing to give a name? :confused:

Clayton