This day in history - 9/24/21 - Ty Cobb goes crazy - show 'em!
 

9/24/1921 - Seething with rage over ball-strike and baserunning calls he felt had gone against him unfairly, Detroit player-manager Ty Cobb challenges umpire Billy Evans to a fistfight and the two go at it for over a half an hour under the stands at Griffith Stadium in Washington.

Players from both clubs, along with a few fans and stadium workers, watch a no-holds-barred, bare-knuckle brawl with no rules, no referee and little decorum observed by Cobb, who fights like a wild man.

It's finally broken up when Cobb smashes Evans' head into the cement floor, threatening to kill him. Evans never files a report, but AL president Ban Johnson suspends Cobb as a player for the balance of the year.

Ty Cobb
 

And the E220 counterpart.....

There are over 200 different Cobb cards, this one is my favorite...
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t205

I don't have a Cobb to show, but just wanted to say that I had never heard that story about Ty. I can't imagine what would happen to a player or manager doing something like that today! "Banned for life" comes to mind. Those were certainly different times.

Both available, BTW :)
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_pAhpQ3jIX9M/Sm...0/scan0019.jpghttp://lh3.ggpht.com/_pAhpQ3jIX9M/Sm...0/scan0018.jpg

In the interest of equal time.

http://s915.photobucket.com/albums/a...dtix/006-2.jpg

Here's three
 

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/2910089374/" title="1928 Star Player Candy by calvindog65, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3234/2910089374_e9f1016757_o.jpg" width="450" height="763" alt="1928 Star Player Candy" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/2909241541/" title="1911 Series of Champions T227 by calvindog65, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3122/2909241541_c8d99e3bb0_o.jpg" width="450" height="761" alt="1911 Series of Champions T227" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/3084954078/" title="1908 Detroit Free Press PC 773-4 by calvindog65, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3015/3084954078_91616db3e7_o.jpg" width="475" height="882" alt="1908 Detroit Free Press PC 773-4" /></a>

From an old card game...
 

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the d304 and cracker jacks are probably my favorites. but, this is darn close

http://www.freewebs.com/majormajor/p...on/cobbe94.jpg

Cobb Harrington
 

highest grade...

Nice D304, Dan K. You could retire on its proceeds.

Cobb after the fight:
http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_...size/Cobb1.jpg

Some more Cobbies:
http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_...%20Greenie.jpg http://photos.imageevent.com/kawika_...01%20Cobb1.jpg

Billy Evans, "The Boy Umpire"

E93
 

<a href='http://img27.imageshack.us/i/e93cobbpsa8300dpicut.jpg/'><img src='http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9792/e93cobbpsa8300dpicut.jpg' border='0' alt='Image Hosted by ImageShack.us'/></a><br/>

all three "players":

<a href="http://s69.photobucket.com/albums/i52/rman444/prewar/?action=view&current=1913BostonGarterTyCobbFront.j pg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i52/rman444/prewar/1913BostonGarterTyCobbFront.jpg" border="0" alt="1914 Boston Garter Ty Cobb Front"></a>

richard, you need a to buy the whole card next time

Tyrus, himself
 

A Few Cobbs
 

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Beautiful cards.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a56...ent/HJCobb.jpg

never get itred at looking at great cobb's, unreal d-304, hey heff tired of that 227 yet!! glad to help you out:D

these 2 are my favorites.

............. Sorry ...................:rolleyes:

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Marty, those are great specimens.

And Al...it's time you gave up on that set and recognized that you will never finish it. And then sell me your card. :)

Jeff cover your eyes. Oh wait, you have this one don't you? ;)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95...bbypc796-3.jpg

My favorite Cobby............
 

The guy was whacked for certain.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...E121Cobb-2.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...T202Cobb-1.jpg

Tony, yes, I've got that one. But am missing so many more...

Here's more favorites:

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/2910087252/" title="1910 Orange Borders by calvindog65, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3060/2910087252_d0eefe8753_o.jpg" width="389" height="684" alt="1910 Orange Borders" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/2910087502/" title="Max Stein Postcard 1909-16 PC758 by calvindog65, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3167/2910087502_181f47551c_o.jpg" width="500" height="925" alt="Max Stein Postcard 1909-16 PC758" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/2910095450/" title="1909 Topping &amp; Co PC 773-1 by calvindog65, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3031/2910095450_7c09fca1cc_o.jpg" width="500" height="919" alt="1909 Topping &amp; Co PC 773-1" /></a>

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/calvindog/3019102393/" title="1908 American League Publishing Company PC 770 by calvindog65, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3195/3019102393_a3ff2c0f8e_o.jpg" width="500" height="920" alt="1908 American League Publishing Company PC 770" /></a>

I love that American League Pubishing Co.

Absoutely great-looking pose (x 2!). Super tough, too.

And that one's a beauty.

Awesome!

Wow.

These aren't in the same universe as that American League Publishing Co. (I mean, come on, who wouldn't want to own that card?), but I don't think they've been posted yet:

I have shown most of my Cobb's, but here is one. By the way Ty was not mean all the time, he gave to many charities and hospitals, but he did like to fight.:)

Joe

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Here are a few.

wow! the big guns are coming out!

Rmann, Jeff... I know you have a few more tricks up your sleeve. Bring the noise!

Man, I LOVE that Topping and Co. dealy! I want to go to there.

I just noticed that the picture used in the 1910 PC 796 and 1922 E121 is the same. Pretty long gap for two cards.

Jeff, it's also the same image used on the 1914-15 Crackerjack pose. Being a CJ collector this is what appealed to me most about this PC.

Noise?

<img src="http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i52/rman444/prewar/Cabinets%20and%20Large%20Items/1911JonesKeyserArrasTyCobbFront.jpg">

That is one heck of a nice Cobb!

young Cobb
 

cue richard serving up the d380 bread on that plate!!!

BBM & PG supplements
 

Four different Baseball Magazine supplements (sorry that the second one is of such terrible quality), and a Police Gazette supplement.

philadelphia times
 

I'll leave the Red Cobb to Ted:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p.../cobbbaton.jpg

Nobody likes these ugly black and white cards . . .

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Ok, here are a couple of more .

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Here's the only thing I haven't seen yet in this thread, an auto:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4.../CobbCheck.jpg

Here are my T206's, and I also have the National Police Gazette insert posted a few posts up, but no picture of it.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4.../Cobbbaton.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...06/cobbred.jpg

Here's a 1907 Wolverine News Co Postcard and 1948 Topps Magic Photo

This looks like a somewhat affordable Cobb. Does anyone know the estimated value?
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a few cobbs
 

here are a few....pardon the extra scan of Pennock.....


http://luckeycards.com/pt216cobby2.jpg

I've never heard the story about Cobb fighting Evans. I'm bidding on the Cobb photos in tonight's Legendary auction, lots 1326 through 1409 make him appear like a friendly, easy going player. Did Cobb have some control over the media in those days?

The two glass negatives look familiar. Does anyone know if a card was printed from either of these images: (Links)
Lot 458
Lot 462

This story only goes to show what a wuss Cobb was (apologies to Lichtman). A no-holds-barred, bare-knuckle brawl that lasts for 30 minutes??? With Cobb fighting like a wild man? Have you ever seen or been in a no-holds-barred, bare-knuckle brawl? They don't last 30 minutes. In fact, without PCP, they don't even last 3 minutes. Unless it's a battle between two 3rd-grade girls.

Ty Cobb: wild man fighter or 3rd-grade girl? One of baseball's great mysteries is finally solved!

-Ryan

a collage of cobb's cards

Wow! That is impressive! How many of those are real?

I hope the answer is all of them. Amazing piece, real cards or not. I'd buy it if they were all reprints.

Richard.... your card is the ugliest. one of the ugliest I have ever seen.... ever.


http://www.internetville.com/images/...etroit1907.jpg

http://www.internetville.com/images/...verineCobb.jpg

http://www.internetville.com/images/...s/e95_cobb.jpg

http://www.internetville.com/images/...ebook_Cobb.jpg

Mike,

Very impressive. If those are all real, I know how you can handle all future legal bills (assuming, of course, you ever get in BIG legal trouble.)!

Hey Mike -- you need a lawyer? :)

Fantastic display Mike! Are you only a Cobb collector or do you have incredible displays like that of other players?

Right on cue.

That is an incredible collage Mike. T206 Cobb back, D380 Clement Bread, Boston Garter, etc. all stored inside a picture frame.

Everyone should break their cards out of their SGC holders and display their cards in a frame for all their guests to enjoy.

If that were a print I would buy a copy in a second! Simply beautiful!

If all of those are real, that has to be the #1 cobb collection hands down!

agreed, can't think of one that would even be a close second.

these cobbs are reprints,i have been doing higher end displays for about 3 years,i have done most pre war players over that period. i am also a collector and have been for 30 years,and do own 27 of the 48 cobbs pictured.i found a niche were people who cannot afford the originals or would prefer not to have their expensive cards out in the open,like myself can have a way to display them on a wall and not have to worry about someone walking off with them.i know in my situation i am proud of my collection,but can only enjoy it so much as its locked away in a safety deposit box, just to ease any concerns am not one of those yahoos on ebay trying to pedal off fake cards,all of these reprints are printed on the front only then double matted and framed for display purposes.

27 of the 48 is a tremendous accomplishment and is certainly a first class Cobb collection by any measurement. Can I ask what the dimensions of that framed piece are? Did you make that custom matte yourself?

great way to do it
 

That's a great way to do it. I have made some Kinkos color scans of some of my Bishops E221 cards and have them on display. If they get stolen I am out of about a dime instead of a lot more....

this piece is 43 1/2" x 36". the mats are all computer cut.

what do you think this is worth?