Selling collection..looking for dealer..
 

Ive decided to part with the majority of my baseball card collection.

Its mainly lower grade ( VG G F P ), many complete sets,many partial sets,many oddball groups of stuff,

Rough list includes the following complete sets - 1933 Goudey, 1934 Goudey, 1934-36 Diamond Stars, 1934-36 Batter Up, 1953 Topps,..some 60s Topps sets, loads of other stuff, 1930s thru 60s , Yearbooks, memorabilia, limited edition signed statues,etc..

Hoping that an east coast dealer might be interested,and possibly bring it to the National to sell.

Again, many rough cards in collection, but Im being realistic with pricing ,as Ive been collecting for many many years and fully understand - supply/ demand/ grades/values/dealer overhead/ commissions /etc

I want to sell as much as I could in one shot...have ABOSLUTLY NO interest in selling just one set to this guy, one set to that guy

Im working up a price on everything, its going to be above 20 , and I feel at that..someone could easily make money on it

any interested party's feel free to PM me, I will gladly discuss over the phone

Ral G

Ralph pm sent

I'm assuming the requisite fee has been paid for this main board ad? :D

Hate to see you getting out of it, ole buddy! Best of luck to you!

Jimi

I will pay 10% more than what Sean Bassik is offering you.

I will pay 2% more than what Jason is paying you

I'll pay 12.6781% less than Sean

or

14.999% less than Jake

:eek:

Pm sent.

I was told there would be no math...

Not sure why anyone would want to bring the feeding frenzy on themselves. Why not use an auction house?

Can't speak for the seller, but my guess is that it's to get as many offers as possible. You can always go the auction house route afterwards if you can't get an offer to your liking.

15-20% auction house loss in fees is a lot... though sometimes people wont offer direct to the seller what they offer at an auction....both seller and buyer both lose when that happens if within that 20%...

auction house
 

Call me ignorant, but I thought many of the auction houses give the hammer price to the seller and keep the juice for themselves. Am i correct in saying that? That way the seller gets the entire amount that the item "sells" for? If i am incorrect, someone please educate me

Nope. Most of the auction houses (unless there is an agreement between auction house and consignor to the contrary) get a percentage of the sale price from both consignor and buyer. So an item that sells for $1000 means the buyer might be out $1200 and the consignor might receive $850. The house keeps $350.

Tom C

One can negotiate with AH's to wave the consigners fee and in some cases can even obtain part of the AH's fee if the items consigned are that good.

Personally I don't consign to an AH if they charge any consignment fees.

I'll pay 5% of low book. That is the Nebraska rule of thumb to assure I will make a profit.

Friggin cornhuskers....

:D

Tom C

There are tons of good auction houses or dealers and you have to decide what is right for you

An auction house such as B&L which does not charge any juice to the seller would be a good way to base anything you want for the lot.

And I think the L part of that group may know something about Net 54 :)

Rich

Shop around. If you don't like the offers, consign it to an auction house. The sets you list should get good bidding at auction.

selling
 

Guys,
that's for suggestions and funny comments

Im posting pics shortly

Im not selling due to needing money or family issue

just thinking of future..before its on top of me

RalphG

Considering an AH, the bidders have to factor in the 15% or 20% juice they are paying so even if the auction house gives you full hammer, you are still possibly losing money you could get from a private sale.

Dan

collection photos
 

Here are pics.. definitely " collector " grade !

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Great collection...but I got to admit the dumbbells look rather random.:)

I offered him $24k.

Thanks for posting the pictures. You have a nice collection of things other collectors like, so whoever buys your stuff will be able to sell it quickly if he doesn't overprice it.

If the offers are like that, maybe I should sell my collection! I guess now is as good a time as any to get out!

bobby you keep saying you will sell your collection..guess we will have to wait a few more years for that to happen

Jason are you officially offering $26,400? 10% more than Sean...

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Come on Sean,..I cant take your money !

got to hang it to sean..he goes out there and makes real offers and doesn't wait around....lots of people talk but no action..

Didn't you officially offer 2% over Jason?

Jason hasn't made an official offer yet.....we will see than what I decide to do as time is an issue ..

Gentlemen,

Is the main forum within Net54 the appropriate place for Buy/Sell/Trade negotiations?

generally not but it's kind of amusing....

Indeed. It's like having Mr Mint around.

Just without all the asshattery and sliminess.

Tom C

I always see people take pot shots at how I pay nothing for what I buy.

The funny thing is I'm sure if they ran stuff by me they would see quite the opposite.

To you gentlemen I say, put your money where your mouth is.

Sean

Shop auction houses. Take your time, there will be offers. Some better than others. Make phone calls and find someone you feel you can trust, that offers reasonable fees (juice), and will get your items the most/best exposure. When I liquidated I had about 10 auction houses that I quickly narrowed to five. Had long phone conversations with three, and very longtime conversations with two before I decided.

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Yes! We need pics! Thank you!

As a fellow low-grade collector, I loved seeing the photos of your cards. I particularly look forward to the 34 Goudeys hitting the market. Good luck with your sale.

Mike

Ralph

I completely agree with Sean here. If he is indeed offering you $24K for this collection take it. My guess is he will act sincere and then disappear like he usually does because he is busy. If he can pay the $24K I would take it. As far as AH route I would agree with exploring that avenue IF the collection was mid grade or better. Low grade sets and collections do not fair well in AH settings. You would get roasted and a buyer will always consider the 20% commission in his/her bid. Sean…..what no midgets in chi-town? I had a couple of dealer friends who were sad you didn't show, but I know you are busy. Sold the autos, but kept about 6 boxes of the premium stuff. When you are serious enough to answer emails after I spent a day and a half getting you your detailed list, let me know and maybe I can get you a deal done. Ralph, good luck on the sale and if I were you I would take Sean up.

Jason

Ralph, great collection. That being said based on what you said and shown, 24k seems pretty good. Have you done a cost analysis? I dont know if I could let go of the Ruth'\s and Gehrigs.

many of those ruths are only in the 1000-2000 range and would be required to get a big offer like seans..

I guess my 2% offer over Jason's turns out to be 0 since he offered 0....got to hand it to sean hes not all talk...

I love the way that you run the forum Leon!! :D

Sure there are rules, but everything doesn't have to be black and white (like some other sites that shall remain nameless). This thread isn't hurting anyone, its not malicious and it is enjoyable to watch!

+1

Future TV Show
 

I agree. This is good entertainment for some of us. Someone should call A&E and get a "Card Wars" TV show started. They would have all their personalities right here on the forum. Brokering big money deals in front of everyone, soak or don't soak, cracking open slabs, fellow dealers screwing each other and being called out, real or fake cards...it's like a middle aged mans soap opera. Love it.

Then they could head over to the autograph side...

Although things have been somewhat quiet there lately. Everyone playing nicey nice.

Tom C

Ralph---I would say Sean made a very good offer of 24K---I would say the Ruths would sell for $1000-1200---From what I see from your scans, collection looks good (lower grade but looks like alot of stuff)--It would help if you provided a few more details----I did email you and you responded where you wanted my phone number, which I sent you, but I didnt receive a call.---Again from what I see of the scans---I would take the 24K. Don

seling collection
 

Thanks to all for comments, encouragement, opinions, and suggestions

I now have the paint remover and scrub brush out and erasing my comment of -

I will NOT break up collection and sell one set to this guy, one set to that guy

Aahh....finding out its in my best interest to possibly try and sell it one at a time...throw one to this auction house..throw one on ebay..sell one to this guy,etc..

My advantage is there is no urgency to sell ASAP

RalphG

Thanks for those pictures Ralph. Its beautiful to see all four of the Goudey Ruths sitting together.

ralph is a standup person best of luck man ,,

there are like 5 or 6 stages when trying to sell a collection...it like losing a loved one...

1. first you think when try to sell it suddenly there will be ZERO market out there and you don't want to get stuck holding the bag

2. then you just hope to get something, and are happy when you start to get offers in

3. Then suddenly it hits you, maybe you maximize what you can get and realize you don't have to sell immediately

4. Then you start to think about missing the cards and now that you know they have value you start second guessing

5 Then you really not attempt to sell your cards anymore unless you get a unrealistic BIN price you see on ebay

6. Go back to 1..

Like losing a loved one? Vintage baseball cards are cool, but ascribing emotional value to inanimate objects? Best of luck with your sale!

If you're gonna break it up, please PM or e-mail me a list if you have one. I have some lower grade sets going and I think we've dealt before....would be especially interested in pre-war Reds. Thanks.

You forgot 5.1.....See a card that you have been looking for forever.

5.2 Buy it and smile.

i don't think I will EVER sell every card I own...most...sure...but I will always keep some that are special to me.

I have to say that seeing those cards "raw" like that is terrific. The 52 Bowman Mantle sitting loose on top of a pile of other 52 Bowmans. 57 Topps Williams sitting on a massive pile of other 57 Topps cards. It's a wonderful image.

Tom C

usually to get to 5.1 you just sold some cards to get out of the market..only to come back in to buy cards you like more with 'card money' so it not real money....

+1...I was thinking the same thing. You don't see raw piles and binders like that everyday! [emoji33]

PM Sent

many of those ruths are only in the 1000-2000 range and would be required to get a big offer like seams..

I guess my 2% offer over Jason's turns out to be 0 since he offered 0....got to hand it to sean hes not all talk...

I have no interest losing $$ on a low grade collection. As for Sean a doubt he will follow through. If so take it and run Ralph. Nice collection and a lot of completion! Sean if you buy and flip it for profit you can call me on my stuff. Also I am hoping you followed up with Leon per our last phone conversation to shed light on what happened considering you had Leon call me with threat over suit. Perhaps you can clear my good name and water under the bridge. I can forgive and move on. Make this deal with Ralph then we can talk on my stuff.


Jason

it not a good start to clear your good name when you state you will pay 10% over sean..and basically implying sean is lowballing so you can make a blanket offer above ...then when he makes an offer now you say its so high you cant beat it....those positions a bit opposite...just saying....

ralph seemed to go from step 1 to step 5 really fast

first says he knows about the offers from dealers and that they have costs etc which will account to their offer price but its fine and wants to sell all at once..

then everyone is saying 24k more than enough and to take it and run

now ralph thinking he can get more and suddenly not interested in selling despite multiple posters stating 24k up front right now is a really really good deal.....so much in fact that they don't think Sean is serious..

Ralph went from selling all to now going through the long hard process of breaking up cards paying AH fees and hoping it adds up better then the offer he received..just breaking even wouldn't be a good deal with all the time and effort involved in breaking things up and logistics, dealing with multiple buyers/issues etc...

he can do what he wants...just interesting to see the steps play out...

Yep.

Buying collections is tough - if you have any sense as a buyer you have to be able to come up with market value; otherwise, you can't make an offer that makes any sense. And as a seller you have to do the same or you have no idea what offers are reasonable. I've found that on Net54, a situation like this is like 'make me an offer' on one card, but with the headaches multiplied exponentially. Too much work for a 'feeler'. So yes, kind of amusing.

That happened 13 months ago. I'm confused - why is this being rehashed?

You've never been married?

I know... I still get grief for the toilet seat being left up in '87.:D

LOL! Funniest post in this thread.

So does Hillary.

I hope Ralf isn't getting upset at our interrupting his deal. Also, kudos to Sean for being willing to do so much math so often.

+1. I love it! I can picture all the married guys on the board nodding as they read that quote!

Sorry, Mike...but I think you kept the non-keeper :(;)

cheaper to keep her..........

At least you have cards to keep you happy [emoji41]

haha. Don't have babies and be a pauper. Then all you have to do is pretend to be miserable any time she contacts you, and she'll be happy.

That's a cool collection. From what I can see, I would take Sean's offer. I can imagine you might go through a lot of additional steps and different avenues, only to net less than $24k. People are often hesitant to take the first offer and regret it later. Good luck with the sale whatever you do.

Agree it's really silly when people bring up year old drama that nobody seems to care about, especially when it really only revolves around them and perhaps one other person. :rolleyes:

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthr...=175664&page=2

Beware the midgets!

Is that politically incorrect to call them? Vertically challenged?

Tom C

I believe the politically correct term is "little people"....which must be the only politically correct term that sounds more offensive than the original term. :eek:

Cue Randy Newman?!