Crazy uncles
 

Anyone get an invoice yet

edited on 5/22/24 to show Crazy Uncles got scammed and is the victim in this whole thread...

This cover shows CJ Dave, the scammer.

No
 

More here: https://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=285319

Uncle
 

Now is that Uncle Jimmy or Uncle Crazy ??

Yes. Last night

I have a feeling Uncle Jimmy was smart as whip and crazy like a fox. Uncle Crazy on the other hand...

brianp(arker)-beme

Was told they are emailing them out yesterday and today.

I have yet to get mine

I just received mine tonight.

Crazy uncles
 

Still no email from crazy uncles
No phone available
No email response
Nothing
5 days
I'm just gonna send a check with 18% added

What about shipping? Might as well wait and send all at once.

What kind of auction house is this??? Everything I have heard has been crazy.

They give fair warning with "crazy"in the AH name. Seems you also need to be crazy to bid with them.;):D

And even crazier to consign with them...

You'd think someone from that company would spend the 30 seconds to post something here, clearing things up. Amazing how some businesses can thrive despite themselves.

I called them yesterday to pay by phone, because I couldn't get the paypal to work when I logged into my account.

They were trying to get invoices out starting last night -- their system doesn't automatically calculate shipping so they have to manually input shipping before each invoice can be finalized individually. Once the invoice is sent the paypal feature is unlocked on their website (as well as other methods of payment, I assume).

I haven't gotten mine yet, but it sounded like they were on the way.

I'm not sure there's any other aspect of life...that I'm aware of...where so much bullshit is tolerated than this beloved hobby! WTF!

In my auction I have to individually calculate shipping as well. We had 700 lots and 200 different winners. They were all invoiced in 24 hours. I do it myself.

And you do a great job! It was my first time winning something from either of you and can say that your quick turnaround and excellent customer service won you points in my book.

As for Crazy Uncle, I just wanted to pass along the explanation I got, since people seemed concerned after not hearing anything.

Scott, correct me if I'm wrong, but before you put the invoice out to view, you add the shipping/tax/etc. The invoice can't be viewed until that is done. Crazy had the invoices posted on their site without that info. Also in their T&C Crazy indicates invoices would be "emailed to bidders the day after auction close and will also be available by logging into your online account" My invoice total posted on the site changed 2 different times since the auction closed.

Same here invoice changed online twice
Without shipping info
Still no email
Auction says invoice emails next day
It's now 5 days

My invoice was emailed this morning. Paid immediately and cant wait for my card to come in.

100% correct and another reason why I work so hard to get them done within 24 hours so they can be posted.

Crazy uncles
 

So I finally got my email yesterday
Paid by paypal immediately
Go to my invoice today still shows not paid for
When will they ship?
Anyone have any answers

:eek:Maybe ask Aaron directly?


Are you like this on every transaction?


Sheesh

LOL....It will be ok, Larry. Take it easy. Life is short man. :)


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Crazy uncles
 

The only thing I worry about is the sign on his address that says eyebrow doctor
Wtf is an eyebrow doctor

Received my invoice today. Got a kick out of it that it said "Due on receipt" :)

Crazy
 

Apparently someone on this post has items in the auction and feels my comments are trying to persuade
People not to bid in his auction
That person is not too bright
I couldnt care less who bids in what auction
Comments are truthful ...and this forum is here to bring the truth to the public..if a consignor to that auction cant handle the truth...that's just too bad..

Wow - that link to the eyebrow doctor - really is "crazy"!!!!

Ain't that the truth.
It's absolutely amazing.

I got an invoice and paid it. Yesterday I got another with a different (higher) amount. Called three times today to straighten it out. Each time I get a recording saying they are sending out invoices.
What next?

Hi Larry, aka The Truthbringer, guessing this is about me. I'll spare the diatribe from your PMS

What's do you need ebay 1 day shipping? Doubt it will ship before July 4th anyhow.


How about the CONVENIENCE of not having to send a check? Remember those days!!

Wait, they are still here!

Even lelands, clean sweep etc still have to mail the ole paper check, wait for it to clear, etc That must kill ya. Locked up in someone's closet for 30+ years and you need it now.

And far as the office, probably it is a rental that was leased to someone else on your link. Just a guess. As for the eyebrow doctor, Id consider asking that special lady in your life what happens at one. Guys too should visit to prevent that monobrow look.

I visited REA in Robs basement also lelands is in the back of a strip mall. Pretty classless picking on him for his office.

If you know where it is, hop on a plane and come down, pay the NY sales tax too.

I'd like to see aaron succeed, but with that bad press you are giving him, I'm not sure your pittance is worth keeping you as a registered bidder. That would be at his discretion.

If it wasnt for people trying something new in this hobby, it would be pretty boring. I'm cheering for the younger generation to take over, as the hobby will die, ot literally and figuratively

So what's this really about? Think he will a frank prisco and just NOT send the items and obscond with the funds?

I remember Prisco touting a legit Ruth autograph on a 1953 Silver Certificate. What a disaster.... LOL.....

Recently, well 3 years now I think. Prisco made off with at least 60k via live auctioneers platform, 4k from me

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Crazy
 

Apparently ted s...misses the point
1st of all the other posts are the posts scrutinizing crazy uncle..
2nd...according to his own auction site you can pay by check and save the 3%
3rd...the 1st invoice had 18% added on
The 2nd invoice had 21% added on
The 3rd invoice gave you no choice but to pay the 21%
4th..his auction site states emphatically invoices will be mailed next day...5 days later and people still dont have invoice
5th....paid invoice still shows not paid
All I've said is the truth...
If hes on this board...post information
Send out a mass email to let everyone know what's going on
JUST COMMON COURTESY
As for the eyebrow dr...99 out of a 100 find it amusing
You're the one who doesnt....hmmm
And last but not least...if you get paid by PayPal anytime this week...you should ship those items ASAP
THATS HOW YOU BUILD A BUSINESS

Everyone knows Babe Ruth was ahead of his time.

I can't speak to invoices, but I was pleased with my consignment prices.

Future Babe
 

Excellent :)

Wow Larry, you are a true 1/1


This all seems like the same issue around this 3%. I'm guessing he can elaborate

You did but it was wrong, no?

I realize it been minutes since you paid, maybe he has to manually reset it to paid. I have no clue

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I feel it's in poor taste to insult someone's lively hood. It would be akin to me posting a picture of an old age home in ***rise Florida




I'm sure he appreciates the tip.

Doesnt ASAP meant just that? As soon as POSSIBLE? Probably a little overwhelmed, heck if I know. I guess I should be asking about my consignment check already according to your consumer model.

I guess the customer is always right, maybe you can get some free stuff, or a better deal next if you keep complaining.

Sorry this happen to you.

Crazy
 

It's truly amazing how uneducated you are
No understanding of anything thats been said
Every comment on this post says the same thing as I've said
But you continue to choose to zero in on me...I dont swing that way
Bottom line is the auction was run extremely poorly
I hope they can do better next time
And almost a week later he refuses to comment
What is he afraid of

Call up and try cancel if you are truly so upset.


I guess "Stuff trumps" all dont it!

Crazy
 

U really dont get it...I'm not upset at all..I'll get my winnings whenever...
Simply pointing out, along with everyone else all the problems they've had....and btw ..if I wanted to call ..I couldnt...they dont answer the phone

I don't know why everyone is at odds, or is even surprised over this...

It's not like they named their business "Sane Uncle". :rolleyes:

Like complaining about the tacos at Sam’s Spaghetti Shack.

I hate the tacos at Sam's.

Brian

Crazy Unc
 

Hi Guys,

Does anyone know the name and number/email of the owners of Crazy Uncles?

FYI - Aaron Rothschild is the president and per his email to me over a week ago, he is not the owner and there are apparently a group owners that have invested into this business.

I have a SERIOUS issue with the last auction as a consignor and Aaron has not taken my calls nor returned any of my emails for over a week now. I was promised over a week ago that I would be receiving a call on Monday June 29th from the Crazy Uncle ownership to try and fix the HUGE mess they caused. Needless to say, no calls were made and no replies to my emails in over a week.

I am not trying to air my dirty laundry on this thread, but this is so unprofessional and incompetent !!! I am not going to give the details as it is not my intent to take any business away from Aaron or Crazy Uncle......but I have no intention of being F'd over (pardon my vulgar terminology to anyone who may take offense).

Aaron - I hope you are reading this thread because you know you have been avoiding me and you know how much you screwed up with this auction. Further you saw my instructions that those consigned items may not be released or I hold you and Crazy Uncle financially responsible (as per my three or four emails to you).

Dave Os.trove

So you sold stuff in the auction, now you are ordering that the items not be released? Very curious to hear how you think they messed up.

+ Several, I am sure many of us would like to hear about what happened in your situation in this thread or by PM.

As an auctioneer I would assume they did something contrary to the language of the contract. In a small company that's easier to do than you might think as sometimes when you are creating the auction you are so immersed in photography and descriptions you can forget specifics set forth in the contract. Key is fixing it before the auction ends or making it right afterwards.

Crazy Unc
 

I will gladly detail some of the screw ups if I do not hear back from Aaron in the next 24 hours or so. Again, not my intent to air dirty laundry nor cause him or his company to lose customers, but man up and fix your blunders. 600 lots in this last auction were from me......tons more never made it in.

Aaron - don't know why you are choosing to avoid me.....actually I do, because this mess up will cost you tens of thousands in commission on this last auction.

You have my number.....you've texted me plenty
You have my email......you've emailed me plenty

They seem to be doing that all on their own.

Just out of curiosity, what made you choose to consign with a brand new company as opposed to one of the more established companies?? Did they give you "an offer you couldn't refuse"??

Crazy Unc
 

I went with a few auction houses...........I gave a large consignment to REA, another large one to LOTG, and a third to Crazy Uncles. I wanted to test the waters with all three.

And the results of the three?? Just curious.

Kind of amazed
 

Perhaps someone could post a link to the thread related to Crazy Uncles first auction. It was discussed pretty heavily on these boards. HUGE problems - poor communication, no communication, no timely pictures, RIDICULOUSLY poor customer service - maybe I'm in the minority here, but "stuff does not trump all". Based on the original thread I made the decision not to do business with this company - while sad, it is not surprising AT ALL based on comments in the original thread that people are having issues. CAVEAT EMPTOR.
That all said - to CJDave and everyone else having problems this time around - I wish you timely and accurate resolution. I appreciate the sharing of all factual experiences and offer the same when I have them as the sharing in this community truly helps make more educated decisions.

1914 Cracker Jacks
 

Hi Robert,

The auctions on REA and LOTG did OK but not as well as past auctions.....through no fault of the two auction houses. Just the timing with the pandemic and people out of work caused it to have less traffic than normal. Again the auction houses did a great job under the circumstances going on in the world.

As to Crazy Uncles, not so good the first time around but I believe in giving second chances......so I did.......I am no longer a believer in second chances !!!

I remember that auction. About 5 successive auctions. I paid for the first auction and got a bogus tracking number that was never scanned in, hadnt paid for my winning in the second, but in the third auction they were auctioning off a 1939 Ted Williams Rookie that just so happened to be sitting in my PC. It was then I knew I had to call and I dont know why, but they refunded me, immediately, my payment from auction 1 and then barred me from bidding in any others. Prisco said he didnt have the cards in hand, that they were from a consignor who was sending him pics. I contacted LiveAuctioneers with all the evidence that he was runnning a scam, they DGAF.

Since you are here and people were questioning it, why'd your T204 Johnson SGC 2 disappear right after the auction closed?

Yep, I win the green cobb psa 4. Never got a dime back

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I missed the first auction, which had many lots not reach a reserve (why he had a reserve on a scam, who knows) But in that second auction I won and paid for:
T206 Mathewson Portrait SGC 7
T206 Johnson Portrait PSA 7
(2) 33 Ruth SGC 5's

I was ecstatic. It was the fourth auction (your Green Cobb) where I caught him auctioning a card I possessed with pics from Heritage. He banned me from bidding in that and his 5th auction. Somewhere on my computer I have all the pics of the card in hand against the computer screen of the lot.

Great question that I don't have the answer to.

I got 2 shipping confirmations with 2 different tracking numbers. Hmmmmmm.

Did your invoice on their website get updated? If so does it also show multiple tracking #s at the top right corner?

Aaron was on the board an hour ago. Did he clear anything up?

Sort of testing our system right now...but I did get a tracking number a few days ago....

Won one card it took five days to get an invoice.
Paid the invoice and six days later it still shows that I owe for the card.
$12 shipping on a $48 card.
I was charged 8.75% sales tax should be 8%.

My email invoice via PayPal says paid, but it doesn’t show up on my account on their website. I emailed them to clarify a confirmation and a confirmation of the shipping address but I haven’t gotten a response.

I won one card for $25, which was $30.25 after buyers premium. I got charged $14 shipping for the one card so it came to $44.25. I don’t dabble in many auction houses, especially upstart ones, so I’ve come to expect costly fees etc from them and don’t expect to get my items quickly because I’m small potatoes.

But reading all of this makes me wonder if I ever will see this card, or if it will eventually end up as a refund. Definitely interesting.

FWIW this came in the mail yesterday...from them

Ive bid with them in all their auctions. They are certainly slow to ship, but I've always got my items.

No it has not. I did, however, receive a 3rd shipping confirmation email today with yet another tracking number. :confused:

CJDave

I know a few of the cards you are talking about! I was extremely surprised that the Frank Smith card only went for $300!!

I love the pose, but E106 players quite often applied their lipstick during earthquakes.

Brian

That pales in comparison to some of the incorrect pricing !!!!!!

Crazy Unc
 

OK GUYS........GLOVES ARE OFF!!!!!

AARON JUST CALLED ME AND THREATENED TO SUE ME FOR SLANDER IF I SAY ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE LAST AUCTION TO YOU FOLKS ON NET54.

AARON - I HOPE YOU ARE READING THIS.............GO FOR IT !!! YOU MENTIONED THE ATTORNEY GENERAL WAS A PERSONAL FRIEND......LET'S SEE !!!

And your statement that you have a legal background and mentioned that you are completely diverse in slander laws is comical to say the least since even a first year law student knows Libel is a defamatory statement that is written. Slander is a defamatory statement that is oral. But I am sure you knew that......didn't you???
Furthermore, a person who wishes to successfully sue you for libel must generally prove the statement is false. Everything I have on you is factual !!!!!

WOULD ANYONE HERE LIKE TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN THIS PAST AUCTION AND HOW AARON COMPLETELY SCREWED ME???????? I CAN DETAIL NUMEROUS SCREWUPS!!!! AND HOW IT COST ME HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN A SCREW UP!!!

And what could he have done so wrong that would cause him to send me this email: That said, we should handle this privately. In regard to your satisfaction as a customer, we blew it... I truly am sorry, I didn't want to have our relationship end after this auction and never on a bad note.

See Aaron.....that's a copy/paste from an email. Makes it's factual......can't be libel (or as you call it slander) if it's true !!!!

I'll bite....I am curious as to what transpired.

+1 I would also like to hear.

Would also like to know what happened to the T204 Johnson SGC2.

maybe he's conversant in the law, but I doubt he's diverse in it...

I've been hesitant the last couple days to mention my conversation with Aaron on 7/7 as I really don't want to waste any more of my energy on it, But I will just simply add that our conversation also included what I perceived as a threat for slander/libel. I would also state, in my opinion, he doesn't care what the board thinks of his business or the impact . Furthermore, based on what he told me about the T204 Johnson when I asked about it and why it was not on the site any longer, I don't feel comfortable bidding in any more of his auctions.

Also, just to amuse myself, I tried locating the LLC on the NY Division of Corporation website and couldn't find it. For comparison, LOTG and Clean Sweep I found in seconds.

It is depressing when a new operation gets those amazing items, which is a massive leg up in this business, and then blows it. Anyone who feels they got screwed consigning to CU please give me a buzz and I will do something special if you give me a chance to show you how a new(ish) small auction can be run well.

Crazy Unc
 

I'm glad you asked. And for the record, everything here is factual, no opinions and assumptions are being made.

Let me preface this by apologizing for being so long winded in my summary.

I put items in Crazy Uncle's first auction a number of months ago. Gave Aaron anywhere from $500K - $750K worth of items. Each item was detailed with a description and the reserve price I wish to be placed. Auction results didn't go so well but you never know. Many of the items failed to meet the reserve and thus did not sell. Some of the items unfortunately slipped through the cracks and sold even though there was a reserve on it. Aaron claims that was a computer glitch, apologized and said he would make it up to me on the next auction. That glitch cost me well over $10K which Aaron claims I said was only $3K or so. The figure was in fact $10K. And on a side note, I just finally got fully paid about two weeks ago from that auction that ended in March.

On to the next auction - I decided to give Aaron another chance. He still had quite a load left from the first auction, and I will estimate I gave him an additional $500K or so of sports memorabilia, historical memorabilia, coins, etc. He stopped by my office to pick the items up at which time I again gave him lists with descriptions of each item and my reserve price. He assured me there would be no more glitches and I would be fully protected. Generally the reserve does not show up until 24 hours prior to close of auction. Aaron was to call me the day before the auction close (Friday) to review the reserves and ensure none of my reserves were too high and if I would be willing to lower any. Come Friday Aaron contacted me that he would call me at the end of the afternoon to review the reserves. That call never occurred. On Saturday I checked the auction and saw there were no reserves showing. I called Aaron numerous times and no response. Finally he picked up and told me it was too voluminous to put reserves on 600 lots so we decided to not put them in. I am showing $250K in sales on items worth an estimated $750K. Everyone got the deal of a lifetime. Aaron now claims that he thought that list was the price I paid for the item......why I would I give him my prices??? His statement is BS as he knows those were my reserves, he knows he was to call me 24 hours in advance to review the reserves, he knows he had a glitch on the first auction and was told to be extra careful. This is just Aaron's feeble attempt to cover his ass......just come clean. You already admitted to me in writing that you blew this whole thing......why deny it now???

I emailed Aaron on 5 occasions instructing him not to release any item as he failed to honor my reserve price and protect my financial interest. I told him if he releases any item without my written authorization dated after the auction, he and his company will be held financially liable to compensate me for my FULL reserve price. He chose to send the items anyway against my objection.

Additionally, on the coins, there were complete sets (i.e. Indian Pennies, Franklin Halves, Commemoratives, etc.) that Aaron was given specific instructions to sell as complete sets and not split out. He chose to ignore my instructions and now claims he spoke to me about splitting the sets up.......this conversation never occurred as I would NEVER split out complete coin sets like that !!! Now individual coins were sold from sets leaving the complete sets 2/3 or whatever complete.....basically much less desirable.

Now here's the best...........while I am at work today I see on my home cameras that all the "unsold" items from the auction were dumped in front of my house.....about 30 feet from the street in plain view for anyone to see. I would estimate over $500K worth of collectibles were just put in front of my house, some in boxes, many just out in the open and easily distinguishable as to what the item was. While I cancelled all my meetings today and dashed home for an hour drive as fast as possible so that I could get these items inside and not stolen, I called Aaron repeatedly until he picked up. I asked if he was kidding me (I might have added one or two words in that sentence) and his response.......you said you don't want to do business with me anymore so here's your sh*t back. I told him those items were stored and locked away......not to be placed in front of my home in 95 degree heat. These are one of a kind historical documents signed by our founding fathers (Washington, Adams, Jefferson, etc.) and signed by Lincoln, Kennedy, every President and Vice President. Valuable coins that tarnish in this heat. 1777 priceless Ben Franklin Terracottas, 1914 and 1915 Cracker Jacks, Blacksox items, babe Ruth autographs, the list goes on and on. Had I not had cameras of my home on my computer, those items would be sitting out for anyone to steal and to be destroyed in this heat until I got home about 10 hours later. His response.......not my problem anymore.

What I have detailed above is factual and in no means libel. If this were falsities I am spewing, why would Aaron email me: That said, we should handle this privately. In regard to your satisfaction as a customer, we blew it... I truly am sorry, I didn't want to have our relationship end after this auction and never on a bad note.

Or why would he email me: I would like to work this out in private and would appreciate if you did not post again on the board about this - we can find a path forward not in the public eye. You would think if he did nothing wrong, why keep it private???

Now Aaron threatens to sue me for slander (which as I mentioned for a person who claims to have a legal background should know that slander is oral and libel is written). It's not libel if it's true !!! And from his legal background, he claims that my repeated emails to not release any items that he failed to protect me on with my reserves will not hold up in court and he is personal friends with the District Attorney so any attempt I make to pursue this legally will fail miserably. I didn't know Aaron had that much power as to make the DA bend to his will.

There are many people of this forum that have done business with me and know I am a standup person and I don't screw people over. I welcome any comments and I can elaborate further if anyone has any questions.

Thank you everyone for listening to this novel I just wrote.

Dave.

Wow!! Just wow!!! I don't have a dog in the race, but I am still dumbfounded as to why you would consign almost a 7 figure collection with a brand new auction house. Just the name "Crazy Uncle" alone would deter me from doing business with them. There are just wayyyyyy too many well established auction houses that would have loved to have consignments that large.