National may be in peril
who knows, but I wouldn't bet on it happening.
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I prefer to just wait for actual news from the National people.
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This will Be Two Years Lost to Lock Downs by State Restrictions In IL. |
I spoke with Megan at the National. She said they will NOT be moving the show to a different location. The only possibility would be changing the dates. It is just too early for anyone to know what will happen at this point.
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Put it in Indianapolis, they seem to be able to handle the NCAA tournament
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Illinois just expanded vaccine eligibility on Monday. I’d imagine rates will plummet as more Americans get vaccinated. They’re planning to make it available to every adult by May 1st. Probably not enough time for a June show, but hopefully enough time for late July.
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I understand that PSA has graciously offered to grade every card at the show regardless of when or where it is held for $4,000,000,000,000.00.
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National has been moved to PWCC's hermitically sealed underground vault.
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Move it to Texas...I would advise Tarrant County (Fort Worth, Arlington) not Dallas County (Dallas)
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Is it expensive? I've gotten rooms for almost nothing there. Mostly because they're getting paid through my time at the casino.
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Expensive for conventions. Apparently very. At least historically. Maybe today they'd be more accomodating.
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They could move it to Texas, Florida or Georgia. Many states are open (some have been for a while) and welcome the business. All three of those states have major convention venues and hotels to accommodate a convention of this size. I've been to various toy conventions in Arkansas, Kentucky, and Georgia this year and last year and they were not super spreaders like everyone would have you believe. Restrictions were in place and protocols followed carefully. Handled correctly it shouldn't be an issue even in Illinois. I have been on several convention committees over the years and unless they have a written contract in Illinois there is no reason it couldn't be moved. I've seen it and done it before. Takes a little work but not impossible.
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The "Biggest" Issue about moving the NSCC at this point to an "Open" State is to remember we would have to get in line behind events already scheduled for those places which had been pushed back.
Hate to say this but the NSCC can not just snap their fingers, say we want to run a show and the waters open up for us. We have to wait out turn. Rich |
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Move the show to Texas. Are the open states booked with events? Doubtful. Someone with alittle grit might be able to get this done.
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Let’s all Be Realistic this Year the National Can’t and Wont Be moved to a different location, it’s just to late. However in he future I hope we can chose states such as Texas, Florida, Tennessee, and Nevada... Just my Two Cents.
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As far as moving it goes, the RNC was moved from North Carolina to Florida less than 3 months out from the convention date. We are 4 months out from the National, and the RNC is much bigger and there were fewer options available last year.
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There are many things I am really looking forward to doing this summer; first and foremost getting out and seeing a handful of baseball games. Everyone will make their own decisions, but getting into a confined indoor space with a few thousand people looking over each others' shoulders ain't high on my list. But others obviously will make different calls based on their own views.
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Dallas has had their show the last couple months, I'm sure most people have seen the social media and other posts regarding it - and yes I understand that show is still a fraction of what a National would be. I think a couple of the big hold ups for Dallas/Houston being a location has been (a) Dallas may not have the best convention facilities?, and (b) Texas is a long haul for both the East Coast and West Coast folks. Pretty sure (b) is the main issue. Both are easy flights in and out and plenty of hotel space, etc. Houston has great convention space, although the City has been preventing some big shows from happening so even here we aren't immune to that aspect. I fear we just may not quite "be there" yet for a show like this, but we do still have nearly 4 months. I'm optimistic they can hold it, but could be "different" than in the past. |
Problem is you may have 4 months but you can't wait until day 120 to make a decision.
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A friend living in Wisconsin heard it was moving to Davenport. I would go if the show moved to Tijuana, would stay in San Diego and take the train to the border. Cheap beer and tacos, I’m tellin ya. 🌮🌮🌮🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺 |
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I can't believe the organizers aren't trying to move it to an open state like Florida, Georgia, or Texas. Not having it again this year is inexcusable.
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^^^ THAT is spot on!
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I come here to get away from this shit, can both sides please cool it.
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I worry that if it’s moved to a state like Texas or Florida with no restrictions at all that it could be a super spreader event. Sports cards are hotter right now than they may ever have been and the crowd could be huge. Covid is still here but too many people are acting like this is over already. My wife had to postpone a medical procedure because one of her coworkers tested positive last week. I had to postpone looking at a huge baseball card collection because the guy called me today and told me his wife has Covid. I feel like we’re spiking the ball at the one yard line. Crossing my fingers though that people continue to be vaccinated and the show can go on as scheduled in Chicago.
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I certainly don't have any experience trying to organize events of this scale, but other than possibly inclement weather, are there any obstacles to hosting it outside? Soldier Field (for example) probably isn't too busy in late July.
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Oh yeah, well your being offended by my being offended about the offensive things you posted in reply to my posts that offended you offends me.
https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ki%20aggro.gif Now everyone who lives in a legal state, smoke a bowl and watch a sunset. https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...e/IMG_0195.JPG Kona before the world turned stupid. Aloha... |
If you follow Pritzker's policies, you know how he's going to play it with resuming indoor events.
Prove you're vaccinated or you don't get in. |
I propose a virtual national...where bitcoin is the only currency accepted!
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Unfortunately Politics are why the National Will Most Likely Be Cancelled or Delayed in the State Of Illinois.....that’s just the reality of the situation.
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Lots of things happen, even in our hobby, due to politics. People insulting each other here doesn't change that, nor add to any important discussion nor make any changes to the situation. It's just meaningless schoolyard crap that adults should be able to resist the temptation of joining. You want to make a change? Do it somewhere that might make a difference, not a sports card forum.
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Some COVID Current Facts in Illinois
Here are some facts from today's Chicago Sun-Times:
"Illinois’ COVID-19 uptick took another jump Wednesday as Chicago’s “quantum leap” in cases raised more concerns of a potential third surge of the virus, officials said. Another 2,592 residents across the state were diagnosed with the virus among 77,727 tests, which lowered Illinois’ average positivity rate to 3.3%, according to the Illinois Department of Public Health. But that key metric has shot up 57% overall in under three weeks, while COVID-19 hospitalizations have jumped 24% over the same time frame. More than 1,400 beds were occupied by coronavirus patients Tuesday night, the most the state’s hospitals have treated since Feb. 24. Gov. J.B. Pritzker and Mayor Lori Lightfoot agree the uptick has halted any talk of further reopening — but they’re still far apart on when all adults should be eligible to receive a COVID-19 vaccine dose." I live in Illinois. The governor is a strict "follow the data" person. I want the National to happen BUT this is not good news. Peace and stay healthy. |
We definitely want the show here, but we want to do it safely. In the end, Pritzker and Ngozi Ezike are going to make the call and it's going to be based on scientific data.
But punishing Rosemont in the future by never having the convention there again, over a temporary policy wholly out of its control? Get real. |
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Thanks Frank, I needed the laugh. :D
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The organizers should move it to an open state like florida. If they don’t they shouldn’t be in charge anymore. Delaying the convention is not an option. Covid is here for the foreseeable future and will only cycle back up past august as the weather turns cooler again.
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Have you ever moved a convention booked years in advance in 3 months? I don't think you'd be successful even in the best of times.
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Let's Face it, It's not happening this year.
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Here's the official word from the NSCC:
https://nsccshow.com/convention-news...ate_april_2021 We’ve been hearing some rumors about the upcoming Chicago National. So we want to put your minds at ease. We are continuing to plan for the event scheduled for July 28- August 1 at the Donald E Stephens Convention Center and maintaining contact with the proper state and local authorities. If we need to make any changes to the event, they will be announced here and on our social media sites. Tickets are currently on sale for the 41st National on our web site at www.NSCCShow.com 1. We are not planning to move this year’s event to Texas or Florida 2. We are not planning to require proof of vaccination to attend. 3. We will announce autograph guests as they are confirmed by TriStar. 4. We will adhere to the guidelines provided by the State of Illinois and the City of Rosemont 5. If the event is postponed or rescheduled, you will have the opportunity to ask for a refund on tickets purchased or roll over the ticket purchase to the rescheduled event. |
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If everyone has to wear a mask, I know how the show could save a heckuva lot of money. They should just hire people from a temp agency (with a passing resemblance) to 'be' the Hall of Famers signing autographs. Can't see their faces? No problem. "That's Reggie Jackson and Johnny Bench at those tables. And allow me to direct you to the ticket window..."
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As an Illinois resident, living and working not far from Rosemont, I was initially skeptical the National could happen. However, some recent events have given me hope. First of all, the Cubs allowed 10,000 fans in Wrigley Field yesterday. I read they plan to allow even more as the season progresses. Also, the Chicago area's main regular card show, the one in the south suburb of Orland Park, is scheduled to come back on April 18. The show has been shut down since February of 2020. My booth at the National is bought and paid for. I'm looking forward to it. I'm also setting up in Orland on April 18 and can't wait! Maybe things are finally opening up here.
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Will be nice when life returns to normal. Or substantially normal. We’ve all been cooped up too long. Maybe when we all hit the beach and the lake PSA will be able to dig out from their 27 million card backlog.
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Be careful what you wish for...
Long, boring story for nothing except to vent, but I can only imagine what kind of f_ckfest a large show will be if the same protocols are in place. Yowza. P.S. Think I'll search for good ole 'Barn' on Facebook. |
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Next time walk through the back door confidently dressed in PPE with some gadget that beeps, stop at every table and inspect every card.
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Washington state where I live is pretty hardcore. We had a Twin Oaks show here in Auburn, Wa today and happy to report it went off without a hitch. In fact, they moved it to a 2 day event and will be on for tomorrow. It was freakin' packed...very nice to see. Picked up some nice cards...great show.
Here is to hoping the National can go as planned...if so, I plan on working in the area to take advantage and attend... |
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