FS: 1914 Cracker Jack Cobb and Jackson
 

Taking offers on these. All non-lowball offers will be answered.

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Holy crap!!! Those are beautiful, Jeff!!!

Amazing stuff

Yeeeowzaaaa!

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Those boarder on insanity

still looking. Please email me privately dan@chiprop.com

Hot damn! Wish I could make an offer

very nice Jeff!

Wow those are the nicest cards I have seen on here. Wish I had those kind of funds.

Beautiful cards!


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Jeff,

Hope all is well.

Two iconic cards, and both are 1914 to boot in high grade!!! Best of luck with the sale!!

Tony

Nice cards. You should email chiprop privately as he pay 1.5 times the market value in 2003!


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That's a weird response considering you and I have never discussed any deal. Why don't you explain your post?

Dan is a great guy, don't think he deserved this post

no need to comment further

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If you post an asking price it may be helpful if you are actively trying to sell the card....also could prevent what you deem lowball offers.

Why does calvindog still have cards and dan looking for them. if he is paying 1.5x as he is advertising then I imagine the offers are $45k on cobb and $100k or so on jackson. dan if you made those offers then i will take my comment back but anything short you should revise your posts stating you pay 1.5x market.

So every card offered I have to buy at 1.5x? Damn! I'm about to get a sh*tload of emails. Dudes who have completed deals with me know the truth, and unless u have attempted to sell me something, I'm not so sure you have a valid argument. I'm just a collector on the hunt. Peace!

I'd like to offer 3x 1999 prices

i can offer 1982 prices...straight up...for any prewar card!!!!! but only for mainstream issues as those are the only prices in my price guide!

FS: 1914 Cracker Jack Cobb and Jackson
 

Nevermind


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Uh still waiting for those strong offers. They can even be 1x 2016 prices. Imagine that.

Those are 2 amazing cards, I've been talking about that Jackson since I saw it awhile ago...2nd nicest JJ I have seen, probably the best that was in circulation. Id give my left nut for the Cobb, you probably don't want to know what Id Id offer for the JJ but something gives me the feeling you are looking for cash. Beautiful cards...

the issue is what is the 'x' for the 1.5...

I'll beat all these fools..... 1,000 X's original 1914 pricing!! Seriously, some of the nicest cards I've ever seen. IMO these cards are almost in the priceless category typically reserved for the likes of Wagner and 52 Mantles. I hope you get a huge sum for them!

+1 and you can also look at what one of them fetched from Heritage last year or early this year.. It wasn't too long ago.

What does deem a lowball offer? I would think most people would do a web search and see what it sold for in auction. Then make an offer based from that price.

I have made offers before that were 10% less than what the last card of the same grade sold for a month or 2 earlier and was told by other sellers it was a low ball offer to them. So you just never know what the seller will deem a low ball offer when no price is listed. If they wanted what the last card sold for at Heritage for example they could probably just list that price...

There are some sellers who buy a card a few months ago and then want 10k more for it for example, so any offer that is above and beyond what the seller had just paid for that card could also be considered a low ball offer to that seller. Thus if the seller lists the card for 10k more then the past sale in that example they may not be bothered with what they deem as 'lowball' offer though others could disagree, but in the end it does save time

this board at one time was a relatively close knit community...where many members kinda knew each other.

the seller is a reasonable man and I'm sure has a $$$ in his head that he would take whether thats what the last comparable sold for or maybe even a little less.

the problem is that there are board members who would offer maybe 1/3-1/2 of the real value looking to make big profits...this is a lowball offer.

i'd guess that most who submit "lowball" offers are well aware that they are low ball offers.

not to speak for the seller but this is what he is referring to.

you are speaking for this seller......Talking generally,however, when theres no price listed that at least creates doubt that there may be a price thats being asked that far exceeds the last recorded sale.... the seler in this example is free to list a price or not but if a price was listed and someone offered 25% of that, than i can understand why the seller feels its a 'lowball' offer..but when no price is listed..its entirely possible that an offer can far exceed a recent last auction price (which another member on this thread said that that sale price was important) but still be considered a lowball offer to that seller.

I don't like when people don't list asking prices either...BUT...you know good and well what a lowball offer is...don't act like u dont!

+1000

One definition/example of a low ball offer on one or both of these absolutely beautiful examples would probably be(just a guess) any offer submitted by
1952 boytoycollector. Then again I could be wrong.

By the way Jeff, gorgeous cards.

I've have learned along this Prewar Path of mine...
THaT it is BeTTar to make an Offer when appropriate,
And Preserve the Privilege of Knowledge
Of one such as the OP fir a possible Later Day!

CalliN one out because... WeLL...
JuST Because I want to be a Jacka$$ ~
I've Learn'd...
Has Nevar BeeN iN One's Self's BeST Interest!

We who have been here fir a bit...
Know what the OP Stands fir
& at the end of the Day, of a Price THaT would be Accept-able!

I've seen these Cards Before!
They are iconic in & to Our Hobby...

If I Really wanted any one of the 2 Cards...
I would Present an Amount
THaT would JuST "WoW" Jeff ~ So He Wouldn't Say No!!!

As Always my Friends...

nah i think it would be any offer by mikeheader...


i have had people message me on some cards though on some net54 seller listings advising they just made an offer that as 20% and more above a last recent sale and were told they were lowballing........when there is no price listed there is more of a chance of confusion of what a lowball offer...thats all im saying.. we have all made offers that we thought were the high end of the market to be told we are far too low..which for some means its a low ball offer..

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+1

I call bullshit! I havent... And as much time as you spend on this board you know what market prices are. If someone calls an offer of market or above lowball them the problem lies with them not with the offer!

Id love to see an asking price but, as they say if u have to ask u cant afford it. Lol beautiful cards man wish i buy one. Hope they find a great new home.

Nice Cracker jacks.

+1

just because you havent doesnt mean it occurs a lot...i have had members PM me about this thread agreeing with me about what i put on this thread... you quote market price right? what do you think market price is on the cards? if the guy is asking for 5k more..would your market price quote be a low ball offer?

when theres no price listed, a 'market price' offer can be considered a low ball offer to the seller is all i am saying

i have had people argue with some of my pricing on cards with people offering 3000 (like the 54 Banks psa 7.5) or so and were quoting market price, yet i sold the cards for new market highs in the 5-6k range (and i had a few offers to choose from)...so were the 3k offers low ball offers? market price changes expecially in todays market.....what you may deem market price may be what someone else deems a lowball offer....especially if no price is listed so the perspective buyer has no idea that the seller is looking for an all time high and what the buyer thinks is 'market price' is 50% below what the seller thinks the card is worth..

Jake, the guy who just paid me twice what you offered on a card I was recently listing figured out what the market price for the card was. Get off my thread and do not make me any more offers. I am not selling any cards to an idiot like you. Somehow I've managed to sell two cards for over 50K in the past few weeks. People who want the cards figure it out. People who want to blather on about their difficulty in figuring out what market value is, despite all the pricing resources at their fingertips -- don't make me offers; we both know you're not getting the card.

This is a BST thread and not your shrink's couch. Do not post on my threads here any more.

In reference to Jeff's last comment, he is correct of course. No one, including me, Jake, JC or anyone else, should be making many comments in BST threads. It's not a sterile environment and if you want to say something is great looking that is fine. Other than that lets please leave discussions for the other forums not the BST places. If anyone has a problem with his please PM me and we can chat about it. .... Thanks.

leon when a guy is making stuff up or implying i wasnt fair on an offer for all to see, (and i dont know what card he is referring too) i believe i should know what hes referring. Hes also calling me an idiot and i made no name calling to him...and had zero attacks on him on this thread... i get that the issue of making too many comments on b/s/t thread here like many others on this thread and I was was not going to post anything more..but he's singling me out and calling me an idiot...


a little research and i figured out what calvin is referring too

it was a psa 7 rooke Jackie robinson leaf card.....no price listed....i had the audacity to offer 10,000 dollars cash as a first offer....and ZERO counter. or any response until now on net54.. so he insults me? If you listed the card for $20,000.00 i wouldnt of made you an offer of $10,000.00 cash. I do think $20,000 would of be deemed by many to be more than market price. I learned you had turned down $14,000 as well. So was $14,000 also a low ball offer since you got $20,000? To get $10,000 net in an auction you need to get $12,000 or so. There are advantages to cash as well. I really dont think its fair to call me an idiot on net54 when you didnt even respond to my offer. Especially since ZERO price was listed.

Like i said if you are looking for a record high, you may just want to post what you want instead of calling people idiots that make offers that are not considered lowball except to you. The last psa 7 sold for about 14k i believe. I made one offer with no response Again if you list the card for $20,000 i realize you want a sky high price and i dont make an offer. I dont believe there were any past sales of that card close to 20k. You sold the card for a ton, congrats..no need to imply i lowballed and call me an idiot

im sure some people will say here that my offer was terrible and i would ask them if they always offered the most they can offer with their first offer, and i also think there will be people that say my offer wasnt a lowball offer. I would submit that there will be at least a difference of opinion. If the people that criticize my offer believe the card was 'worth 15k', dont you think a 10k offer would of at least warranted a counter offer versus calling me an idiot? Thats all im saying. Heck you should see some of the offers i have gotten on my listings compared to what they sold for at an auction. I not go around and call people out saying that their offers were 2x less than what i sold the card for at auction (which is more reflective of a market price than one private buyer that blows away any prior sell price)


I believe this proves my point i was making on the thread..i not even realize he was the seller on the jackie..i was talking generally.... guess its my big loss i cant get your cards as the prices you want..

"i not even realize you were the seller on the jackie..i was talking generally..."

Putz, the last PSA sale on a Robinson Leaf 7 was 19.5, not 14. You offered 10 on that Robinson card despite that 19.5 sales price. You're a putz which is why I ignored your lowball offer. I received exactly what I asked for on that card, not a penny less. Oh and a 6 just sold for 12.2. Again, you're a putz. And I'm not sure why you didn't realize I was the seller of that card -- you PM'd me your lowball offer. Did you think you were PMing into a vacuum?

As for getting what I want on the cards I sell, I don't need the sales to eat. So I can promise you that every card I sell here I get for exactly my asking price. Because I don't need to sell them.

And if I want advice from a piece of shit moron like you, I'll run a red light and then make an appointment at your office. Slap a fifty down on the table and you can pontificate for an hour. The fact is everyone knows what a clown you are. So stop laying out your idiotic, barely decipherable advice on my threads; you're literally shitting the bed with your stupidity. Do not make me any more offers because I'm not selling you any cards.

when was that sale you are mentioning? i honestly did not see it. For that im an idiot? What was the sale of the 3 prior cards? What was VCP on the card? (i dont have access to VCP, but if you dont answer it then im assuming its closer 10 than 19.5)... Its possible someone that makes you an offer may not know every single past sale of the card. I spoke with others at the time of your listing and after i got zero response and they saw the card going for around 14k...so are they idiots too? You can sell the card for whatever you want. All i can say is if you just listed the price for 20k, i dont even make you an offer.

you seem to love to talk so much, but you were afraid to counter the offer? I dont remember every seller i ever made an offer too this past week and especially not weeks ago. The fact you didnt even respond makes my memory of that potential card exchange even less memorable.. I not sure how you think i would remember who the sellers were on every card. I moved on since that...i guess you hadnt.... Plus there are many times people dont get the PMs....so i had no idea you actually got an offer until your post here..

The fact that you admit you dont have to sell any cards until you get the price you want means you dont care if you need over market price and can let a card sit for years versus listing it for auction if you cant get the price you want. Thats fine, you can do whatever you want, its your card.

so you admit you were asking sky high..you are free to ask whatever you want to ask. You arent free to call me an idiot. I also said i dont want any cards from you in my last thread, so again, it really pains me you will say it again...maybe you will say it again on your next post

-- btw- i am receiving supportive pms so apparently not everyone agrees with you. Its a free country i have nothing against you personally. I think when someone resorts to name calling it really takes away their argument though. Cursing and name calling i try to stay away from. Not sure why you would be using it in a baseball card hobby thread.

You're an idiot. I sure. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1948-Leaf-79...852?rmvSB=true

Thanks Jeff, I needed this today, I just shot beer out through my nose when I saw this.... :D:D

Greg, thanks! But Jake the putz is "receiving supportive PMs." I'm sure tons of people are just lighting up his inbox at 5 pm on a Saturday for comments he made 20 mins ago. Perhaps Bruce Dorskind left him some multiple personalities in his will.

Jake, how about this: you stop posting in my BST threads and if you have any more scintillating advice on how to sell cards you do it on the main board? Because if you had kept your idiot mouth shut on MY BST thread this back and forth would never have occurred.

they were actually made yesterday. I had nothing against you and was talking generally about people that dont list prices and what they deem low ball offers but apparently you struck a nerve with some other people.

Then stop "talking generally" in a BST thread that is not yours. Trust me on this one: I received more PMs about what an idiot you are. If you doubt it, just read the thread.