Originally Posted by Leon (Post 1507480)

That person (Phil) says it's not him...... Never underestimate the troll.

Originally Posted by tschock (Post 1507498)

When I first saw "Phil316" and the 'name' underneath, my mind went to Philippians 3:16. Not sure why, but hey, it's the subconscious so who am I to ask. LOL Not being overly devout, I looked it up.

15 Let us therefore, as many as are perfect, have this attitude; and if in anything you have a different attitude, God will reveal that also to you;
16 however, let us keep living by that same standard to which we have attained.

Not trying to be religious here but wanted to provide the 'context' of v16 by v15 above. Interesting.... in light of this thread.

Originally Posted by Bliggity (Post 1507496)

Ok, so just to get this straight. Someone creates a profile using the name and ID of a regular poster on GUU, and then comes over here to post in defense of Goldin. Is there any conclusion to draw other than this was someone at Goldin trying (fraudulently) to do some reputation rehab? Should we take this as Goldin's "official" response since nothing else was ever said?

I suppose there are plenty of other explanations, but my head hurts just trying to figure them out.

ETA: I guess someone with an axe to grind against Goldin could have made up this ruse, knowing it would be discovered and blamed on Goldin, in order to stir up more bad feelings?

Originally Posted by begsu1013 (Post 1507960)

each state is different and may have laws preventing such action.

i don't know, not an attorney but heritage is allowed to do so by texas law.

apart from obvious integrity issues, being allowed by law is pretty key.

but again, would like to see the legislature read that if any auction house does bid and win, that the 20% buyer's premium should go to the consignor.

of course, then they'd prolly just claim it was a non-paying bidder and we're back at square one again...

Originally Posted by WindyCityGameUsed (Post 1502944)

Its insane and totally ignorant that anyone would think/hope that a matter of this gravity that's been spoken about in alarming detail in this thread would just go away.

Some common sense advise to the responsible parties:
1. Take responsibility for your actions!!!
2. STOP hiding cause we see U
3. Say your sorry and mean it!!!
4. Attempt to make amends to the community as a whole
5. STOP trying to ban the TRUTH

Seems to me that taking responsibility and making amends would be a lot easier than say for instance:
1. Searching the internet in paranoid damage control trying to suppress the truth.
2. Trying to pressure/threaten forums into being a part of the apparent ongoing cover up of bad behavior by discouraging forum management from allowing open discussion in regards to this subject matter which quite frankly has affected most if not all in the hobby on some level.
3. Using designated plants to deflect attention or derail ongoing forum discussions
4. Running internet IP addresses on posters
5. Reiterating the same bogus company line
6. Thinking of new lies to tell and subsequently having to remember said lies.

I can't say Thank You enough to Net54 & Leon again for having the courage to allow an open forum about this subject matter because as far as I can tell in my searches of other sites freedom of speech does not exist unless it sticks to the script.

Ron Kosiewicz

Originally Posted by begsu1013 (Post 1507960)

each state is different and may have laws preventing such action.

i don't know, not an attorney but heritage is allowed to do so by texas law.

apart from obvious integrity issues, being allowed by law is pretty key.

but again, would like to see the legislature read that if any auction house does bid and win, that the 20% buyer's premium should go to the consignor.

of course, then they'd prolly just claim it was a non-paying bidder and we're back at square one again...

Originally Posted by dhernandez (Post 1516818)

How often do you guess House wins lots and use the non-paying bidder ploy and what happens next? Do they contact the next highest bidder or do they re-list? Prior to the internet when AHs were utilizing phone call in's to place bids. I'm sure the house bump was a standard that was employed routinely because of the lack of "hard" paper trail with phone bumps.