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Domer05 10-16-2025 11:20 AM

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Like I said, well argued theory Gary and Greg. I would only push back on one point: the Dodgers were not exclusively known as the Robins in 1920--or any other year, really.

In fact, there's never been a pennant bearing the name "Robins" to my knowledge. The 1916 NL champs pennant I previously reproduced on Pennant Factory ID'd the team as "Dodgers" (see: https://pennantfactory.weebly.com/bl...champs-pennant ). Moreover, the 1920 World's Series program identified the team as "Dodgers" despite the fact that Wilbert Robinson himself was prominently featured on the cover. Both items were made during the height of Robinson's popularity; yet, the name "Dodgers" was featured on them.

I only wish your theory got us closer to ID'ing the mystery maker behind these grommet pennants.

I also spent some time looking for HoF dedication photos from the 1939 grand opening, hoping to find a spectator or two waving a pennant--but came up with nothing.

Domer05 10-16-2025 11:35 AM

More on the "Grommet Pennant"
 
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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2544383)
Have you covered these in your blog, Kyle? I know they’ve ben shown a few at a time throughout this thread, but I’d love to see them all in one place. I’m jonesing for some new pennantfever content! Weren’t you going to cover ABCO or some name similar to that? :p

I did indeed. I think I now have images of all known grommet pennants from the championship series, plus a few others. See:

https://pennantfactory.weebly.com/bl...champs-pennant

thetahat 10-16-2025 11:42 AM

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Here is my 1939 Browns

ooo-ribay 10-16-2025 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 2544443)
I did indeed. I think I now have images of all known grommet pennants from the championship series, plus a few others. See:

https://pennantfactory.weebly.com/bl...champs-pennant

You’re the man.

Go Brewers! :p

UKCardGuy 10-17-2025 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 2544435)
Like I said, well argued theory Gary and Greg. I would only push back on one point: the Dodgers were not exclusively known as the Robins in 1920--or any other year, really.

In fact, there's never been a pennant bearing the name "Robins" to my knowledge. The 1916 NL champs pennant I previously reproduced on Pennant Factory ID'd the team as "Dodgers" (see: https://pennantfactory.weebly.com/bl...champs-pennant ). Moreover, the 1920 World's Series program identified the team as "Dodgers" despite the fact that Wilbert Robinson himself was prominently featured on the cover. Both items were made during the height of Robinson's popularity; yet, the name "Dodgers" was featured on them.

I only wish your theory got us closer to ID'ing the mystery maker behind these grommet pennants.

I also spent some time looking for HoF dedication photos from the 1939 grand opening, hoping to find a spectator or two waving a pennant--but came up with nothing.

Thanks Kyle. I concede that the Dodgers were commonly called the Dodgers in 1920. But we know for certain that the Braves were only called the Bees from 1936-1940. :)

With regards to the HoF pictures, I'm wondering if they'd be inside in the main hall or on a display. The use of grommets on pennants sold to fans seems an extra expense and complication that they wouldn't have needed. The grommets seems to be most useful if the pennants were being displayed hanging down in a display.

bigfanNY 10-17-2025 02:16 PM

Rockford Peaches pennant (1951)
 
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Won this pennant as part of a group of items. What I know is it comes from estate of player from the 1951 Team named Margaret Carroll. She signed with the Peaches at the age of 16 pitched one season then left pro ball. Very pretty and my first few searches I cannot come up with any sales. Lots of Rockford peaches pennants but almost all are later reprints produced after the film. I would appreciate any help.

perezfan 10-17-2025 04:49 PM

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Great stuff! You don’t see the Mini versions very often… especially those that come from an actual player’s estate. Awesome!

Here’s mine (3/4 size original). The reproduction versions are quite obvious (and unattractive, IMHO). Great to see authentic examples!

bigfanNY 10-17-2025 05:25 PM

Whoa!! That's a Beauty. Yes the Peach colored replicas are not very attractive. If you blow up the picture I posted the Obituary is worth the read. Funny how a lifetime gets summed up in a few Paragraphs. Especially the lifetime of a Woman who was a Professional athlete in 1951 at the age of 16!!.
As for the pennant the Peach on the Dark Blue is what attracted me to the lot. Really didn’t think I stood a chance at winning it. But with so many auctions lots,especially this time of year, to many times the right eyes just dont get on even the best items.

perezfan 10-17-2025 08:53 PM

You said it! These auctions can be fickle, and the prices realized depend so much upon timing who actually sees it. Awesome lot!

Domer05 10-18-2025 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by UKCardGuy (Post 2544650)
Thanks Kyle. I concede that the Dodgers were commonly called the Dodgers in 1920. But we know for certain that the Braves were only called the Bees from 1936-1940. :)

Yup, that's why I buy your theory ;)

I wonder if this collection of grommet pennants were maybe part of a promotional giveaway? You know, like a "Collect all past league champion pennants" promotional giveaway? They're not the highest quality pennants so this seems like a good possibility.


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