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Fballguy 05-30-2025 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ser1979 (Post 2519004)
Anyone have any tricks or tips on how to get ink pen off a pennant?

IMO...Your best bet would be to paint over it. Any attempt to erase or remove will likely make it look worse. You can get some fine tip brushes and antique white paint. Even if the white isn't perfect, it would look better than pen.

UKCardGuy 05-30-2025 05:39 PM

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Well, we seem to be on a real Tigers run on this thread lately. Here's another one that just arrived today.

The spine looks a bit wonky. I'm not sure if it's just poor quality control at the manufacturer or if sone's tried to reapply it. It's a fairly scarce pennant so there's not too many photos that I can compare it against.

I'd welcome you're thoughts?

Fballguy 05-30-2025 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by UKCardGuy (Post 2519046)
Well, we seem to be on a real Tigers run on this thread lately. Here's another one that just arrived today.

The spine looks a bit wonky. I'm not sure if it's just poor quality control at the manufacturer or if sone's tried to reapply it. It's a fairly scarce pennant so there's not too many photos that I can compare it against.

I'd welcome you're thoughts?

With pennants it's hard to say. They're largely uncharted territory (except for feltfootball.com, the largest pennant gallery in the known universe and, of course, pennantfever.weebly.com the ultimate encyclopedia of pennant history).

The most prominent auction houses in the industry know basically jack sh*t about them, are regularly fooled by repros and act as if they're "little boy" every time they're confronted with the impossible mission of shipping one.

As Kyle has shown, there have been a littany of producers with varying degrees of artistic talent and quality control.

So...IMO...Anyone that says with certainty that your spine is fubar is likely FOS themselves.

It does look funky...wavy...and not Louvre ready. But...

Who cares?

It's a rare, beautiful pennant.

Again...Just IMO.

Domer05 05-30-2025 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by UKCardGuy (Post 2519046)
Well, we seem to be on a real Tigers run on this thread lately. Here's another one that just arrived today.

The spine looks a bit wonky. I'm not sure if it's just poor quality control at the manufacturer or if sone's tried to reapply it. It's a fairly scarce pennant so there's not too many photos that I can compare it against.

I'd welcome you're thoughts?

A agree with Rob. It's more likely this was just the result of poor quality control than some modern attempt to doctor the spine, or replace it.

It's also a cool design. Enjoy it!

Domer05 05-30-2025 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Fballguy (Post 2519043)
IMO...Your best bet would be to paint over it. Any attempt to erase or remove will likly make it look worse. You can get some fine tip brushes and antique white paint. Even if the white isn't perfect, it would look better than pen.

Yup, here too, I'm in agreement with Rob. Painting over it may just be your best bet.

I bought this 1959 WS champs pennant a few weeks ago. A previous owner (perhaps the 9-year-old kid that took it home from the Coliseum in 1960) doctored the artwork by outlining the stadium in black marker (and, enhancing three other secondary colors).

I tried to remove the black ink by rubbing a Q-tip soaked in rubbing alcohol over the black ink, which sat entirely atop the white underbase that Trench screened on to the pennant. Results were mixed. Yes, it gradually removed some of the black ink; and, it did not harm the white underbase at all. Problem was the red dye that the felt was made of: it had become very unstable over the years, and the alcohol was causing more of its removal than the black ink. So I quit.

And turned to Plan "B." Sharpie makes a product called a "paint pen." And, they sell one in white. It's basically a felt-tipped marker that permits a heavy paint (not ink) dispersion. The paint is oil based, which means it's opaque enough to mask the black ink I was trying to cover. At the same time, the paint wasn't so thin that it ran all over the place, ruining the art.

This was what I used: https://www.amazon.com/Sharpie-Oil-B...IMS99GTX&gQT=1

After four coats, leaving 20 minutes of drying time between applications, I was very pleased with the result....

Anyway, try the rubbing alcohol method first. It can't hurt the white underbase. If it works, awesome. If not, consider the paint pen method?

thetahat 05-31-2025 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by UKCardGuy (Post 2519046)
Well, we seem to be on a real Tigers run on this thread lately. Here's another one that just arrived today.

The spine looks a bit wonky. I'm not sure if it's just poor quality control at the manufacturer or if sone's tried to reapply it. It's a fairly scarce pennant so there's not too many photos that I can compare it against.

I'd welcome you're thoughts?

It looks legit to me. But generally speaking, hold up to a light and look for pre-existing stitch holes. Easiest way to tell if your pennant has been re-spined. I think you will find yours is okay. Something to look out for in Trench pennants since bugs and/or moths tend to enjoy their spines.

ooo-ribay 05-31-2025 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Fballguy (Post 2519043)
IMO...Your best bet would be to paint over it. Any attempt to erase or remove will likly make it look worse. You can get some fine tip brushes and antique white paint. Even if the white isn't perfect, it would look better than pen.

You convinced me. Strike my bleach pen idea from the record.

Fballguy 05-31-2025 09:32 AM

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After four coats, leaving 20 minutes of drying time between applications, I was very pleased with the result....

Anyway, try the rubbing alcohol method first. It can't hurt the white underbase. If it works, awesome. If not, consider the paint pen method?

Nice job Kyle! If only it was as easy as Photoshop. ;)

UKCardGuy 05-31-2025 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2519103)
It looks legit to me. But generally speaking, hold up to a light and look for pre-existing stitch holes. Easiest way to tell if your pennant has been re-spined. I think you will find yours is okay. Something to look out for in Trench pennants since bugs and/or moths tend to enjoy their spines.

Thanks guys. No pre-existing stitch hole, so it's just sloppy manufacturing. Not sure who made these but I really like the design.

ser1979 06-02-2025 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by UKCardGuy (Post 2519046)
Well, we seem to be on a real Tigers run on this thread lately. Here's another one that just arrived today.

The spine looks a bit wonky. I'm not sure if it's just poor quality control at the manufacturer or if sone's tried to reapply it. It's a fairly scarce pennant so there's not too many photos that I can compare it against.

I'd welcome you're thoughts?


Gary,

Love the pennant, I own the green version and yours is the first one I've seen surface in several years. Unfortunately, mine has the year wrote on it by whoever previously owned it. As far as the spine goes, I would agree with everyone else and say it just poor quality and the pennant is 100% legit.


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