Yep and according to the description, the Athletics pennant sold for $8,400 in 2016. It's been the first time in a while that I can remember seeing so many great memorabilia pieces in auctions. Maybe it's just supply and demand.

First, thanks to Fballguy for selling me that Giants grommet pennant. It took me a bit of time (searching online stores) to find a backing that I thought fit with the colors on the pennant. I think it turned out well.

I usually use green backing, to give a sort of a generic grass/field/turf look. Like these two Santa Clara pennants that I'm looking at while I type (thanks, Kyle, for the one over the door). I think that the green color works well with many pennants, but was not going to work for a green pennant.

I usually buy frames from Frame Destination. I find their website easy to use and their cost to be competitive. Custom framing is usually not an option for me, costing more than the pennants themselves. But I usually find the backing elsewhere.

Thanks to you for this idea and also for the top loader idea also suggested here. Great idea to have it use friction to stick. I assume you can find some acid free backing too?

I'm not sure about whether of not the backing is acid free. I've stayed away from darker backing, especially dark reds just in case there were any concerns about bleeding. I haven't noticed any problems at all. I guess acid issues would show up over a longer period of time. I'd worry about that more if the items I was framing were bigger $$. If I was framing a high $$ item, I'd do my best to make sure the materials as inert as possible.

Not exactly TSOG worthy, but I picked up this Keezer design iron on (left) for 15 bucks. None of these patches are marked Keezer but I believe some have been.

Very cool Rob! I have never seen that white version, and you found it in its original packaging! Can't imagine more than a handful of those exist.

As for the standard Keezer Patches, it seems that about half are stamped on the reverse and half are not. Very tough set to complete.... I actually tried years ago, but eventually just gave up.

Nice pickups!

Some day we'll find you a copy of the Keezer pennant with that guy, Rob.

As Rob knows, I've had some Giants luck lately. Both are toughish variations. The orange pennant has an older version of the Candlestick stands (incomplete right field). Later versions with complete stands are easier to find, although not exactly common.

And the 1962 "stamped" version of the black one has been elusive, although ebay had two this past month. So it goes.

Great pickups, Marc! Both are tough.

These are great Marc. Just like with the Mets, Trench had a slightly different style of stadium pennant for the Giants. Colors are outstanding!

Two great pickups... cannot believe another 1962 Giants stamped version surfaced again so soon. Well done Marc!!!

I still find it amazing that so many old pennants are in such good condition. If I was the original owner they would look like Swiss cheese by now. I still have my first few pennants my father bought for me, Got the Mets and Reds attending Game 2 of the 1976 NLCS. (I was six.) Both were in awful condition by the time I got to high school!

Another buddy got the first one. He wasn’t too pleased when the better version Marc got popped up a week later. :p

That's the fluky nature of this hobby.... you don't see one for 3-4 years, and then two turn up within a week of each other. Seems to happen all the time (to the delight of many an underbidder).

Anyone bid or win any of the pennants that Mile High just had up in their spring auction?

https://milehighcardco.com/catalog.aspx

Not me. Sone good ones for sure!

Top pennant has a Worton tag. Next two are clearly from the same maker, circa 1948-48. Followed by a known 1949 Trench. Extremely strong evidence in my opinion that “moonlight better“ is not Trench.

The maker of the top three also have a Joe DiMaggio Pennant and I think Don Newcombe? Mark?

Just saw that a lot with this (along with Yankees and Dodgers pennants) sold for only $162. Wish I would have seen it.

Wow … wow … WOW. Marc I didn’t even see that. The Yankees and the Dodgers alone were worth the price. That Giants looks like cloth, too … amazing

Mile High? ebay? Too much to keep track of. :mad:

Just happened to me...Was very excited to land this Yankees pennant. Can't recall if I'd ever seen one come up for sale previously. Then, the same day it arrives in the mail, the one below it pops up ebay...which off course I liked even better. The colors seemed to pop more. Figured I'd sell the first one. Didn't realize until the second one arrived today that it has white graphics, while the first one has gray. Now I have to keep both. :)

Just found this Orioles Pennant still in the package. Never saw one like this before.

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That is 100% correct. Unmistakably identical stylized font!

Perfect example, Rob... what are the odds? If you change your mind and want to part with the grey one, be sure to keep me in mind!

Different color tassels, too. So, yeah, you HAVE TO keep both! :p

The pennant or the packaging? The retailer (wholesaler?) was discussed maybe a month ago and a lot of those Pennant Posts have lately turned up on ebay.

Greg- what do you think the date is for the moonlight batter Yankees pennant? He played for the Giants until at least 1962. And the same depiction of Candlestick appears in some Giants pennants that seem even later (e.g., the blue example below). All of these pennants are about 3/4 size.

Marc, my guess is also late 1940s. It looks almost identical in composition to the roster pennant. I strongly suspect a NYC manufacturer.

The moon lit batter artwork dates back to at least October of 1949, when this image was published in the Brooklyn Eagle after the Dodgers clinched the NL pennant....

I have no reason to disagree, but it’s weird that there doesn’t seem to be a NY Giants version. At least not that I’ve ever seen…

Well, that moonlight batter must have been playing for the Dodgers in the 1940s. I think he got traded to the Phillies sometime in the 1950s (right Greg? I think there are Phillies versions) and then apparently finished his career with the SF Giants.

Yep here’s the Hello Donny banquet pic again, with Phillies moonlit batter, 1963-64 (Colt 45s pennant peeking out in upper right).

I’m suspecting NYC because of the player pennants. Just an educated guess.

If you would like six original phots of that banquet, my buddy candlestickdandy has them on ebay. Search “fresno” in his store. Make him an offer. Tell him ooo-ribay sent you.

Just checked them out … wild! I just need to know who the hell Donny is …

Not vintage

https://www.ebay.com/itm/26624115848...cX8YQ&LH_BIN=1

The weird thing about the pennant behind the guy at the podium, it’s a 1963 WS pennant with the ‘3’ changed to an ‘8’ …

So, where's the SF Giants pennant?? I always assumed it was the one hanging behind the speaker.

Why would a banquet hosted by SF Giants personnel include two Dodger pennants--and no Giant pennant?

Perhaps "Donny" wasn't into the black/orange? :confused:

There are 8 pennants fully pictured, a tiny bit of the Colt 45s, and I’m guessing that the Giants is next to that out of sight. Look how they are arranged. Assuming symmetry, there is one more pennant to the right of the Colts and that would be the Giants.

If anyone is interested in selling their pennant collection, Super Break Sports (whoever that is) is buying.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/30492422672...mis&media=COPY

Hi all….I’m an occasional pennant collector (and not a Tigers fan) but I recently saw this one online so I grabbed it. I like the vintage stuff, no mater what team. Thought you guys may enjoy seeing it.

Nice one. Team picture pennants don’t get the love they deserve. They took extra care to make. I wish I had another wall to dedicate to these.

They are pretty cool and unique.

The “sash” is a nice embellishment, as well.

Agreed. It’s definitely a different kind of pennant.

Domer has a nice interview with a Trench employee who explained how it was a real pain in the butt to assemble the picture pennants. They certainly do require extra care. Along with the mystery of the few teams that don’t have stadium pennants … teams that never had team pic pennants. Colt 45s/Astros and Cubs come to mind. A few others have them for 1-2 years (Senators, Giants?), others run the whole decade. Phillies have at least 13 different ones from 1960-69.

+1

It's a nice Tigers pennant. I've been picking up team photo pennants too. I think they're really underrated and a great snapshot in time.

The Tigers have the best pennants, period. I’ve seen three different colors of 1968 Tigers pic pennants, I think one even states that it is a spring training roster.

Trench obviously mastered the team picture pennant. ASCO has some nice ones, too. The unknown (what I think is) NYC company just stapled the picture right on. The 1963 Mets pennant is an example and lots of Yankees.

This is currently for sale on eBay. Interesting that it’s 1973 and cloth, when cloth has all but gone obsolete. Which raises the question .. has Trench made any team pic pennants on felt? Maybe the Dodgers had one? Seems to me they are all Cloth. I guess maybe the glue holds better I dunno

The Dodgers photo pennants seem to be made from felt.

The Cubs could not have photo pennants because they didn’t take team photos for many years. I think Mr Wrigley was just too cheap to pay a photographer.

There's at at least one Astros Team Photo pennant thought the photo is silk screened rather than a photo glued to the pennant). It was from 1978.

The Tigers have some great photo pennants but my favorite team photo pennant is the 74 Red Sox.

I've catalogued 50 different team photo pennants (though I know there's many that I've missed). This is the breakdown:

• LA Dodgers 13 (1960, 1962, 1963 - 4 variations, 1965 - 2 variations, 1966, 1967, 1971, 1972, 1973, 1977, 1978 - 2 variations)
• Cincinnati Reds 9 (1960, 1961 - 3 variations, 1967, 1973, 1975 - 2 variations, 1976
• Detroit Tigers 9 (1960, 1964, 1966, 1967, 1968 - 2 variations, 1969, 1971, 1972, 1973,
• Chicago White Sox 6 (1959 - 2 variations, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965)
• Baltimore Orioles 5 (1963, 1967, 1968, 1969, 1970)
• Boston Red Sox 4 (1967, 1968, 1970, 1974(
• California Angels 1 (1963)
• Houston Astros 1 (1978)
• Kansas City Royals 1 (1980)

White Sox have three ‘59 versions: Red, White, Black. Red Sox is another team that didn’t have Trench pic pennants but did have Keezer and the one you show which I believe is ASCO.

You can add 1970 to your Tigers list based on my photo above.

Interesting. I guess that explains why the Topps team cards always showed floating heads instead of the group pic …

Actually, technically, this '74 Red Sox photo pennant is by Madaras. (Note the "M" maker's mark.) Their only year in business.

But, yeah, might as well be by ASCO, right...?

It sure looks like ASCO. The ‘VET’ pennants also look like ASCO. Did Madaras absorb ASCO or something?

I must have missed the identification of the "M" mark. Now, I know.

Here's the Giants' one photo pennant and their Madaras offering.

What is on the back of the photo? Anything? Very unusual (and cool) design.

The photo is on the pennant…there is no cut out…thus, I can’t see the back.

The back of my 74 Red Sox Pennant is blank. I've found the same pennant on ebay and it's the same. It's a shame because I really like it when they have the player names on the back.

Very interesting. As is the “WC” near the upper left corner of the pic. Has that been discussed before? We need Domer to check in. Could this be ASCO/Button House? Mystery company? It is radically different than Trenches from that period.

WC = West Coast Concessionaires, per Domer. Yes, this was discussed. I'm not sure whether the WC is seen on pennants of other West Coast teams.

As for the maker, I'm not sure I've ever considered it. Perhaps bocca has. The WC was also seen on the "stamped" 1962 pennant. I have an un-stamped version also with the WC but I have another without it (shown). That guy on those pennants was also seen on many of the Giants stadium pennants, along with the "cartoon font" of the 1962 picture pennant (but no WC). Same maker for all?

I'm pretty sure that the WC came up in Kyle's conversation with the Trench guy, which makes it a high likelihood that they are Trench. I guess maybe WC could have had someone else make pennants for them?

Those are awesome, Rob...

Also interesting is how the 2nd pennant has such different spine and tassels from the others.

It took me some time to find this pennant (thanks, Erik). When I first saw it in Rob's collection, the colors/tassels made me think it was some kind of modern reproduction. But it is not. And it is tough to find.

Yes it’s a cloth spine and cloth tassels … very rare for Trench … I will bet that the stitching is “doubled” like that of Ad Flag and Keezer. I’m sure there has to be a name for the type of stitch. There was a brief amount of time that Trench-appearing pennants were made like this. Here’s an example of one of mine with all the same characteristics that I once wondered might be a knock-off …

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I know this is not everyone's jam, but this pennant is hen's teeth rare. Super Bowl XVI bootleg that Oooribay helped me track down. Both beautiful and ugly at the same time. Pennant folk art. This was probably number 1.25 on my want list. Love the horrible helmet graphic and having all of the player names. I'm pretty sure it is from 1982.

See my post #5630 ... where I shared more than anyone would care to read about Madaras, Inc ;)

Bottom line: Madaras was a short-lived pennant maker founded by ex-ASCO employees in Winona, MN after ASCO was sold to Campbell-Mithune. It was only around from 1973-74.

See my post #4847.

WC = West Coast Novelty Co. They ran concessions at several locations in the San Francisco Bay area, including California's Memorial Stadium in Berkeley. They never made pennants; and, as far as I can tell, all of their pennants were produced by Trench.

Super interesting how they modeled those names after the 1951 All Star Game pennant and '57-'58 Milwaukee Braves Pennants. That's a 24 - 31 year gap.... Someone must've had an amazing sense of history at the bootleg pennant factory!

https://keymancollectibles.com/penna...tarpennant.htm

http://www.insidetheparkcollectibles...-lot13864.aspx

If they were a Giants fan too, they may have had this one in their collection. They must have copied the design from one of these. There is no way it is a coincidence.

Nice.... I have always wanted that one, and never snagged one. Couldn't even find an image online. Is that one yours, Marc?

I wish that was mine. It is somewhere on my wantlist. I know that Oooribay has one.

There was one for sale earlier this year at Hunt? It was more than I was willing to pay. There are two versions. One says world champions, the other pennant winners.

Page 113.

You can tell it's an authentic bootleg as it contains the requisite spelling error.

And why is the A in Champions italicized?

Mark: I’m not so sure this, like the ones you mention, is not an Ad Flag. They made pennants at least through the early 80s - I have a monstrous looking Pete Rose hitting streak pennant from ‘79 that I buried somewhere. I think I’ve seen an ‘82 Cardinals will all the tell tale signs.

Marc: can you show the stitching on the back? Ad Flag did a good tight stitch - will help to identify

Here is the spine stitching from the 49ers 1982 pennant.

Not solid proof that it’s them, but it is consistent with Ad Flag. That + the known Ad Flag roster design seems like pretty strong evidence that it is them.

On a related note, Keezer (post 1950) and ASCO also stitched like this. It’s why they don’t suffer from loose threads.