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UKCardGuy 03-27-2025 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2505727)
Gary, as far as the Chicago pennant, I’d say probably not. There is a “series” of pennants with that leather graphic, I’ve seen at least four of five others. There’s also a Tigers with a leather Tiger head. They have the same construction, two color felt with reinforced edges. These three are mine. There is a White Sox pennant currently on eBay with a screened graphic but otherwise the same construction. And it has a tag on the back from Geo. Lauterer. So that’s my guess.

I just checked my pennant catalog that I've been building and I had a note that the Pirates version of the "Leather Batter" was made by the Chicago Pennant Company. I could have recorded that wrong or maybe both CPC and Lauterer made similar pennants in a cross-Chicago rivalry.

Any guesses?

cmoore330 03-27-2025 06:56 PM

My only RepCo pennant is a sewn letter model. This is the equivalent of owning a classic Mustang, but it’s a 1970’s Mustang II! :D

https://i.etsystatic.com/41620787/r/...74907_4fl6.jpg

https://i.etsystatic.com/41620787/r/...74939_17fg.jpg

Domer05 03-28-2025 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by vintagesportscollector (Post 2505782)
Kyle, thanks for the full catalog. What an incredibly impressive, extensive, array of art work and designs. I find it remarkable how few of these designs and art have ever been found, from my experience. I image that is because since they were so short lived, much of this was created in such small numbers, if ever at all.

Do you think Langrock and Annin adopted the same or very similar artwork as Repco? I had thought this Bear Pennant was possibly Repco, since it’s their artwork - but since Cornell did not introduce the Bear as mascot until 1915, (no existence of a Bear before that), and realizing Repco ended in 1914, it’s more likely this is Langrock or Annin.

Joe, I'm convinced your Cornell pennant is indeed by Repco. No-contrast spine + collegiate block letter outline font would be enough for me; but, additionally this bear artwork is awfully similar to "Brown bear," which was copyrighted in 1909 by Repco. See below. They used it (and several other bear/bruin/cub depictions) on many collegiate mascot pennants, so they probably just updated it a bit and used this variant on yours (in 1915, as you point out) when Cornell joined the bear family.

For more on their copyrighted works, there's a slideshow embedded within my Repco piece. To date, I've found about two dozen survivors exemplifying this terrific artwork.

Domer05 03-28-2025 01:48 AM

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John, if you like that one, you should check this Repco one out on ebay. It’s not mine. I don’t think I’m outing anything since it’s a BIN and clearly listed. Healthy asking price, but offers accepted. No Repco tag, so I think that is just a best guess. Could be another maker. I haven’t seen that catcher art work in their catalog. (Edit myself - I do see now that artwork is on Kyle’s site, so I assume then that this is a Repco.)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/226588838356

This Wisconsin pennant is a beauty; and yes, it has to be Repco's work. No-contrast spine + Old English font featuring that weird lower case "c" resembling an "r".

Here's the White Sox variant, featuring the same distinctive lower case "c"....

Domer05 03-28-2025 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by vintagesportscollector (Post 2505788)
I shared this pennant many years ago, but circling back again to see if anyone now recognizes the maker mark? It’s probably the most unusual and unique pennant I have. I haven’t seen another. Some may think this young lady basketball player may not be the easiest on the eyes :), but I found her to me remarkably detailed and beautiful. The pennant is 35”. Looks like initials N.P. Co. Any thoughts?

N.P.Co. = National Pennant Co. of New York.

Haven't seen any other pennants by them; but there is this sun visor by them reportedly from 1937....

Domer05 03-28-2025 02:08 AM

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Speaking of that distinctive Old English letter font, with the weird lower case "c" resembling an "r", check this photo out....

This ca. 1914 photo reportedly shows the 2d class barber shop aboard the RMS Olympic--which was RMS Titanic's sister ship.

Cool souvenir pennants, right? Look at the "c" in "Olympic" ... they're by Repco!

Kind of makes you wonder whether Repco ever made a Titanic version that's sitting on the bottom of the Atlantic. :eek:

vintagesportscollector 03-28-2025 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 2505970)
Joe, I'm convinced your Cornell pennant is indeed by Repco. No-contrast spine + collegiate block letter outline font would be enough for me; but, additionally this bear artwork is awfully similar to "Brown bear," which was copyrighted in 1909 by Repco.

Thanks Kyle, very helpful, as always. I was just thinking this could not be Repco when you said that 1915 is about when it appears Repco may have left the pennant market, and that you couldn't think of a Repco pennant we can definitively source to them after 1914.

The Cornell Bear came onto the scene when a bear cub from Maine joined the sideline during games in the Fall of 1915. By the the end of the season the Cub had completely gone viral, widely popular on campus. I assume the earliest this pennant would have been created is very late 1915 or 1916. So I guess this could be an example where Repco’s pennant making continued into 1915 or 1916. The investigation to try an pinpoint dates for memorabilia is always fun stuff, thanks for the help!

vintagesportscollector 03-28-2025 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 2505972)
N.P.Co. = National Pennant Co. of New York.

Haven't seen any other pennants by them; but there is this sun visor by them reportedly from 1937....

Thanks! Do you know any of the NP Co. history? I was assuming this pennant was 1910-1915 based on the artwork and that the girl’s basketball team was popular then and on campus, and then seems to have disappeared for decades.

vintagesportscollector 03-28-2025 08:17 AM

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Thanks Kyle, very helpful, as always. I was just thinking this could not be Repco when you said that 1915 is about when it appears Repco may have left the pennant market, and that you couldn't think of a Repco pennant we can definitively source to them after 1914.

The Cornell Bear came onto the scene when a bear cub from Maine joined the sideline during games in the Fall of 1915. By the the end of the season the Cub had completely gone viral, widely popular on campus. I assume the earliest this pennant would have been created is very late 1915 or 1916. So I guess this could be an example where Repco’s pennant making continued into 1915 or 1916. The investigation to try an pinpoint dates for memorabilia is always fun stuff, thanks for the help!

Ok, just came across this in Worthpoint, after I posted. This may add a wrinkle to things. The bear artwork is Repco’s copyrighted art, but according to the Worthpoint listing there is a Langrock tag on the pennant. Only difference is the contrast spine. I guess it’s possible Langrock could have made a pennant too with a non-contrast spine that matches the Repco artwork and lettering? Just speculating, but the use of the artwork and lettering muddies things between the two makers.

ooo-ribay 03-28-2025 08:25 AM

It seems like Joe (vintagesportscollector) is a somewhat new contributor to our group. A very welcome contributor! You (Joe) have some great pennants and insight. “Inquiring minds want to know.”

https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=in...E0a6uf3mM,st:0


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