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ooo-ribay 03-27-2025 06:03 AM

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ooo-ribay 03-27-2025 06:12 AM

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I kinda thought we already could/did. :p :confused:

I need to pay closer attention!

Kyle: next up; George Lauterer Badges, buttons, banners, flags.

vintagesportscollector 03-27-2025 09:30 AM

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I’d also like the full catalog. Thanks Kyle!

Kyle, thanks for the full catalog. What an incredibly impressive, extensive, array of art work and designs. I find it remarkable how few of these designs and art have ever been found, from my experience. I image that is because since they were so short lived, much of this was created in such small numbers, if ever at all.

Do you think Langrock and Annin adopted the same or very similar artwork as Repco? I had thought this Bear Pennant was possibly Repco, since it’s their artwork - but since Cornell did not introduce the Bear as mascot until 1915, (no existence of a Bear before that), and realizing Repco ended in 1914, it’s more likely this is Langrock or Annin.

vintagesportscollector 03-27-2025 09:52 AM

Anyone recognize the Maker mark?
 
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I shared this pennant many years ago, but circling back again to see if anyone now recognizes the maker mark? It’s probably the most unusual and unique pennant I have. I haven’t seen another. Some may think this young lady basketball player may not be the easiest on the eyes :), but I found her to me remarkably detailed and beautiful. The pennant is 35”. Looks like initials N.P. Co. Any thoughts?

perezfan 03-27-2025 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 2505735)
Just a gut feeling, but I don't think any of these were by Repco. The artwork just ... doesn't resemble the same degree of detail that Repco's were known for, in my view. Additionally, none of these feature a no-contrast spine or an Old English or Collegiate Block letter font that seemed to typify Repco's look.

One thing I learned while researching Repco: they had a monopoly on "process" (screen printed) pennants from about 1908-1911. But by the summer of 1911, at least one rival pennant maker named Langrock Bros., also of New York City, had begun making screen printed pennants. By about 1915, several more had joined the club, including Annin, yet another New York-based pennant maker.

Coincidentally (or not so coincidentally), 1915 is about when it appears Repco may have left the pennant market entirely. I have long suspected this was due to this influx in competitors who had entered the marketplace and perhaps even perfected Repco's patented "process" (also known as the Udall Process) into something even better. To this point, I cannot think of a single Repco pennant we can definitively source to them and made after 1914.

I suspect this is when they transitioned to other commercial applications for their process, like indoor advertising.

So although it's tempting to label that beautiful 1915 Red Sox pennant as being by Repco, I think it's more likely someone else made it.

Agree... NONE of those pennants shown were made by Repco. The artwork and composition are different on each of the examples.

perezfan 03-27-2025 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 2505395)
Thanks to the wonderful staff of the Brooklyn Public Library, Center for Brooklyn History, I was able to obtain digital scans of all 51 pages from a 1913 sales catalog by The Reproduction Co. currently in their holdings.

I posted more excerpts over on Pennant Fever, but here's a few pages to pique your curiosity....

Looks like Jim Scott is the inspiration for the Dartmouth Pennant (seen in Post 9384). I used to have this same exact Pitcher image on an early teens Boston Braves Pennant, which I sold years ago.

Pretty cool to know the origin of this one, and makes you wonder how many others are based on actual Player images. Link below...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/40489708449...item5e45bf344a

perezfan 03-27-2025 12:48 PM

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Found an image of my old Boston Braves, with Jim Scott as the subject...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/40489708449...item5e45bf344a

effe 03-27-2025 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2505569)
A few of my college pennants … Niagara is embroidered.


Love that Wisconsin pennant. I've never seen that one before.

vintagesportscollector 03-27-2025 01:12 PM

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Love that Wisconsin pennant. I've never seen that one before.

John, if you like that one, you should check this Repco one out on ebay. It’s not mine. I don’t think I’m outing anything since it’s a BIN and clearly listed. Healthy asking price, but offers accepted. No Repco tag, so I think that is just a best guess. Could be another maker. I haven’t seen that catcher art work in their catalog. (Edit myself - I do see now that artwork is on Kyle’s site, so I assume then that this is a Repco.)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/226588838356

UKCardGuy 03-27-2025 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 2505735)
Just a gut feeling, but I don't think any of these were by Repco. The artwork just ... doesn't resemble the same degree of detail that Repco's were known for, in my view. Additionally, none of these feature a no-contrast spine or an Old English or Collegiate Block letter font that seemed to typify Repco's look.

One thing I learned while researching Repco: they had a monopoly on "process" (screen printed) pennants from about 1908-1911. But by the summer of 1911, at least one rival pennant maker named Langrock Bros., also of New York City, had begun making screen printed pennants. By about 1915, several more had joined the club, including Annin, yet another New York-based pennant maker.

Coincidentally (or not so coincidentally), 1915 is about when it appears Repco may have left the pennant market entirely. I have long suspected this was due to this influx in competitors who had entered the marketplace and perhaps even perfected Repco's patented "process" (also known as the Udall Process) into something even better. To this point, I cannot think of a single Repco pennant we can definitively source to them and made after 1914.

I suspect this is when they transitioned to other commercial applications for their process, like indoor advertising.

So although it's tempting to label that beautiful 1915 Red Sox pennant as being by Repco, I think it's more likely someone else made it.

Thanks Kyle. That's great info.

Greg and Mark thanks for the insight about the graphics.


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