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Fballguy 01-19-2021 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2057713)
Well no I didn’t think that those prices reflected actual “value” or whatever they would get if auctioned now. That being said, it seems that the Best Offer option was instituted in October 2017. So I don’t think that applies here. More likely these were just off-the-rails auctions like that simple Cardinals pennant from a week or so ago. I would expect it to be $250-300 if auctioned today but plus/minus a big margin of error.

The best offer option on eBay has been around much longer than that. In 2017, eBay began allowing you to put it on auction style listings, where prior to that it was only an option for fixed price listings.

(Maybe I should change my name to Fballguy Ebay Savant ;))

MK 01-19-2021 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ASpaceman (Post 2057765)
Back from the framer.

As an Indians fan - I feel so uncomfortable with this hanging over my desk.

Rob - thank you for the working with me on it. I couldn't be more pleased :)

Looks fantastic with the matting. I’m glad you elected to have the tassels out flat rather than curled under. I think it looks much better even though it increases the price due to more frame needed. I’ve been there.

Duluth Eskimo 01-19-2021 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by baseball tourist (Post 2057683)
Not mine, but some interesting ones from FB group pennant I’m on. One fellow is asking for a rough value on his two basketball pennants, if anyone has an idea? Thanks!

Chris,
I’ll take a shot at it. The Bucks champions pennant is a little bit tougher than the All Star pennant. I would say about $50 for that one and $30 for the All Star one. The real jewel is the AFL / NFL Super Bowl pennant. You didn’t mention that one.

perezfan 01-19-2021 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo (Post 2057907)
Chris,
I’ll take a shot at it. The Bucks champions pennant is a little bit tougher than the All Star pennant. I would say about $50 for that one and $30 for the All Star one. The real jewel is the AFL / NFL Super Bowl pennant. You didn’t mention that one.

Yup.... you're talking 4 figures for that one.

Domer05 01-20-2021 12:13 AM

Does anyone know if there was ever a Super Bowl I pennant made/sold at the game, in Los Angeles? I've only seen that one depicting the final score, which I presume was made in the 1980s or so....

Fballguy 01-20-2021 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 2057912)
Does anyone know if there was ever a Super Bowl I pennant made/sold at the game, in Los Angeles? I've only seen that one depicting the final score, which I presume was made in the 1980s or so....

I've never seen an AFL-NFL Championship pennant for "Super Bowl" one. I believe they sold individual pennants of the Chiefs and Packers with the designation "AFL Champions" and "NFL Champions" at the game, but nothing with both that I know of.

The pennant you refer to is definitely ugly and stiff enough to be from the 80s. I've seen it sell for a couple hundred bucks and I've seen it sell for under $20. I think it's a mystery to collectors.

baseball tourist 01-20-2021 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo (Post 2057907)
Chris,
I’ll take a shot at it. The Bucks champions pennant is a little bit tougher than the All Star pennant. I would say about $50 for that one and $30 for the All Star one. The real jewel is the AFL / NFL Super Bowl pennant. You didn’t mention that one.

Thanks Jason. Yes the football one is great. Different poster and he didn’t ask for valuation help.

baseball tourist 01-21-2021 10:03 AM

Not mine
 
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Not mine, but some awesome football pennants from the FB group.

perezfan 01-21-2021 11:56 AM

LOVE the red and green Rams pennants!

bocca001 01-21-2021 02:16 PM

Aren't those Fballguy's pennants?

Fballguy 01-21-2021 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 2058425)
Aren't those Fballguy's pennants?

LOL...Yes.

Chris...the guys here have seen these pics before, but I appreciate your pennant enthusiasm!

baseball tourist 01-21-2021 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fballguy (Post 2058428)
LOL...Yes.

Chris...the guys here have seen these pics before, but I appreciate your pennant enthusiasm!

:) hey Rob. Sorry about that. The FB group only has 700 or so members, didn’t think there would be much overlap:)

ooo-ribay 01-21-2021 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Fballguy (Post 2058428)
LOL...Yes.

Chris...the guys here have seen these pics before, but I appreciate your pennant enthusiasm!

What is a "Don"? Wasn't Bill Russell a "Don"?

Fballguy 01-21-2021 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2058435)
What is a "Don"? Wasn't Bill Russell a "Don"?

You saw the The Godfather didn't you? Sort of like that only Spanish.

MK 01-21-2021 04:45 PM

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I have been trying to obtain this particular Cubs pennant for some time with no luck. It seldom comes on the market. It’s obviously peculiar due to the artist using Ebbets Field in place of Wrigley. The Dodger pennants using this graphic are much more plentiful and based on the dated ones, I would assume they would date from late 40s to mid 50s. Anyone have any thoughts or other information on these?

Duluth Eskimo 01-21-2021 04:58 PM

Very nice Mike. That is a tough one, especially not faded or torn. Right on with dates.

ooo-ribay 01-21-2021 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MK (Post 2058484)
I have been trying to obtain this particular Cubs pennant for some time with no luck. It seldom comes on the market. It’s obviously peculiar due to the artist using Ebbets Field in place of Wrigley. The Dodger pennants using this graphic are much more plentiful and based on the dated ones, I would assume they would date from late 40s to mid 50s. Anyone have any thoughts or other information on these?

Good luck, Mike. That particular color you show is striking.

thetahat 01-21-2021 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MK (Post 2058484)
I have been trying to obtain this particular Cubs pennant for some time with no luck. It seldom comes on the market. It’s obviously peculiar due to the artist using Ebbets Field in place of Wrigley. The Dodger pennants using this graphic are much more plentiful and based on the dated ones, I would assume they would date from late 40s to mid 50s. Anyone have any thoughts or other information on these?

Interesting. The style of the Cubs pennant does not look like Trench, which is where the Ebbets graphic originated (I think). Very cool though.

Fballguy 01-21-2021 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by baseball tourist (Post 2058433)
:) hey Rob. Sorry about that. The FB group only has 700 or so members, didn’t think there would be much overlap:)


No worries Chris!

thetahat 01-21-2021 07:38 PM

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Speaking of Super Bowl pennants, anyone know what’s going on here, besides the obvious? Is this the only SB3 pennant that isn’t dedicated to a team?

ooo-ribay 01-21-2021 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2058538)
Speaking of Super Bowl pennants, anyone know what’s going on here, besides the obvious? Is this the only SB3 pennant that isn’t dedicated to a team?

What’s written after the “L” (in your tiny little picture)? :p

Fballguy 01-21-2021 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2058562)
What’s written after the “L” (in your tiny little picture)? :p

LOL...It's '69. The year in which Super Bowl III was played. As for what's going on...Super Bowl III was the first one in which the NFL used the name Super Bowl. The only other Super Bowl III pennants I can think of are the individual Colts and Jets pennants. Unlike "Super Bowl" II and most Super Bowls from IV on, there's no pennant featuring both teams for Super Bowl III...unless it's yet to be discovered. Maybe they all designated the 17 point favorite Colts the champs and had to be destroyed. :p

There are other generic Super Bowl pennants like the ones Greg shared, but they aren't dated so hard to pin down which game they're from.

thetahat 01-22-2021 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2058562)
What’s written after the “L” (in your tiny little picture)? :p

Yeah I gotta figure out how to get bigger pics with my phone. It denies “actual size” and gives me three other options, all of which are tiny....

ooo-ribay 01-22-2021 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2058665)
Yeah I gotta figure out how to get bigger pics with my phone. It denies “actual size” and gives me three other options, all of which are tiny....

I think you’re gonna have to take them on your phone and send them to your desktop computer.

Fballguy 01-22-2021 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2058753)
I think you’re gonna have to take them on your phone and send them to your desktop computer.

Yes...That's how I do it. Then you get the option to choose a size. I usually go with medium.

Duluth Eskimo 01-22-2021 02:42 PM

Some nice pennants went off on the Ebay today. Hopefully you guys one.

ooo-ribay 01-22-2021 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Fballguy (Post 2058803)
Yes...That's how I do it. Then you get the option to choose a size. I usually go with medium.

I resize mine under, but as close to, 2 MB as I can.

perezfan 01-22-2021 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo (Post 2058903)
Some nice pennants went off on the Ebay today. Hopefully you guys one.

Some nice prices realized. I was underbidder on the Red Sox. My snipes didn't even register on the others (1946-47-48-49 World Series).

Anybody here fork over the required cash?

Duluth Eskimo 01-22-2021 03:19 PM

I was probably under you on that one. I bid on a couple others too. I thought the 47 was nice, don't see that around much. Those 46's were nice as well. I have that 56 in my collection already, but i though some of them went very reasonable. Nice condition all throughout.

doug.goodman 01-22-2021 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 2058918)
Some nice prices realized. I was underbidder on the Red Sox. My snipes didn't even register on the others (1946-47-48-49 World Series).

Anybody here fork over the required cash?

I got blown out on both the Dodgers WS pennants I had my eyes on.

ooo-ribay 01-22-2021 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo (Post 2058903)
Some nice pennants went off on the Ebay today. Hopefully you guys one.

What were they? What did they go for?

doug.goodman 01-22-2021 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2058952)
What were they? What did they go for?

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw...ete=1&_fosrp=1

thetahat 01-22-2021 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 2058918)
Some nice prices realized. I was underbidder on the Red Sox. My snipes didn't even register on the others (1946-47-48-49 World Series).

Anybody here fork over the required cash?

I got the ‘49. The scarcity + condition made it too hard to resist. Already have ‘46 and ‘47. Was underbidder on the ‘48. ( ‘46 and ‘48 are early Keezers, very cool.)

I always get nervous after the auction, worried that the price was elevated due to just one other bidder. But three other snipes were over $1000 US, not too far from the final price. So that was somewhat comforting.

doug.goodman 01-22-2021 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2058956)
I always get nervous after the auction, worried that the price was elevated due to just one other bidder. But three other snipes were over $1000 US, not too far from the final price. So that was somewhat comforting.

Congrats on your wins.

I am the same, and agree.

rlevy 01-22-2021 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2058956)

I always get nervous after the auction, worried that the price was elevated due to just one other bidder. But three other snipes were over $1000 US, not too far from the final price. So that was somewhat comforting.

That's pretty funny Greg. If it's any solace even when there looks like there was only one other bidder, there actually could be many others whose snipes were a second after the underbidder and a dollar short. Those won't register on eBay.

perezfan 01-22-2021 05:27 PM

Congrats Greg... That one was clearly the cream of the crop. Great score!

thetahat 01-22-2021 05:48 PM

Thanks guys! I think I’ll be having a fire sale soon on B/S/T ...

thetahat 01-22-2021 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rlevy (Post 2058969)
That's pretty funny Greg. If it's any solace even when there looks like there was only one other bidder, there actually could be many others whose snipes were a second after the underbidder and a dollar short. Those won't register on eBay.

Yeah that’s right ... good to know!

Duluth Eskimo 01-23-2021 10:32 AM

The strange thing about that 1949 version is that usually the first team "Yankees" is the home team for the pennant, but it shows Ebbets Field. You would have outbid me, but that's what kept me from bidding as I only pick up Yankees pennants

thetahat 01-23-2021 01:24 PM

Interesting ... is there a ‘49 version with Yankee Stadium?

Your observation might only pertain to a certain manufacturer. Like the ‘55 and ‘56 WS pennants that show the traditional Yankees logo and the Brooklyn cap ... they each have two versions with teams flipped. But I’m not sure Trench did this. The ‘55 pennant with fancy spine and forked tip comes in two colors but in each it is Yankees above Dodgers, in every version I’ve seen. Anyone else have info? I’m curious now ... thanks for info!

thetahat 01-23-2021 02:11 PM

Speaking of two-team WS pennants ... I wonder what years have such pennants (known)? I know this goes back to A’s/Giants with the cool Ben Franklin pennant. But does anyone know if there are WS pennants for 1952 or 1953?

ooo-ribay 01-23-2021 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by doug.goodman (Post 2058954)

Very nice! It’s reassuring that every once in a while there’s still some good stuff on ebay. In my experience, not often but sometimes.

ooo-ribay 01-23-2021 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by doug.goodman (Post 2058954)

I love the colors in the ‘59 White Sox!

Fballguy 01-24-2021 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2059368)
Very nice! It’s reassuring that every once in a while there’s still some good stuff on ebay. In my experience, not often but sometimes.

Ebay, with few exceptions, has been a wasteland for months. Compound that with all the extra home computer time the ebay trolls have due to covid and the competition for fresh meat is fierce. Everything good, listed as buy it now, is gone in 60 seconds.

Kind of sad, because I used to be the one getting them. :eek::D

Typically now, when something good does show up, it's listed auction style. For a few years, auctions almost became obsolete on ebay. At one point Ebay planned for more of an Amazon type business plan, moving away from the auction format. But then something changed and they started offering hundreds of free auction style listings each month. Now auctions are back full force.

Fballguy...the original Ebay Troll

thetahat 01-24-2021 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Fballguy (Post 2059589)
Ebay, with few exceptions, has been a wasteland for months. Compound that with all the extra home computer time the ebay trolls have due to covid and the competition for fresh meat is fierce. Everything good, listed as buy it now, is gone in 60 seconds.

Kind of sad, because I used to be the one getting them. :eek::D

Typically now, when something good does show up, it's listed auction style. For a few years, auctions almost became obsolete on ebay. At one point Ebay planned for more of an Amazon type business plan, moving away from the auction format. But then something changed and they started offering hundreds of free auction style listings each month. Now auctions are back full force.

Fballguy...the original Ebay Troll

I prefer the auctions, only started making offers and checking more often in spare time because I was missing out. I’d notice cool pennants vanish immediately and then resurface a few weeks later as GREAT EYE APPEAL. :) Some of us are collectors and others are immediately flipping for a profit. I’m not saying it isn’t ethical, of course not. But those of us in the first category are more or less “forced” into it by the latter.

Fballguy 01-24-2021 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2059681)
I prefer the auctions, only started making offers and checking more often in spare time because I was missing out. I’d notice cool pennants vanish immediately and then resurface a few weeks later as GREAT EYE APPEAL. :) Some of us are collectors and others are immediately flipping for a profit. I’m not saying it isn’t ethical, of course not. But those of us in the first category are more or less “forced” into it by the latter.

Totally agree...If you can't beat'em you've got no choice but to join'em. Strike first ask questions later (as you well know :D).

There was a Rod Carew ASCO picture pennant listed for $42 BIN today. I noticed it about 5 minutes after it listed and knew it was gone. Sure enough.

thetahat 01-24-2021 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fballguy (Post 2059762)
Totally agree...If you can't beat'em you've got no choice but to join'em. Strike first ask questions later (as you well know :D).

There was a Rod Carew ASCO picture pennant listed for $42 BIN today. I noticed it about 5 minutes after it listed and knew it was gone. Sure enough.

Probably another with GREAT EYE APPEAL

Fballguy 01-24-2021 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2059768)
Probably another with GREAT EYE APPEAL

I predict a Monday evening ending auction along with several other rare pennants. Just a gut feeling.

thetahat 01-24-2021 04:47 PM

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Yeah we’ll see a curtain call for Rod Carew soon, no doubt.

Speaking of ASCO player pennants, here’s something I picked up recently, not really my cup of tea but I got this way way under the asking price. I think the price was so high no one bothered with it. Anyway, the darn thing is virtually mint. I might put it up as trade bait on B/S/T but more and more I think it’s pretty cool.

Fballguy 01-24-2021 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2059820)
Yeah we’ll see a curtain call for Rod Carew soon, no doubt.

Speaking of ASCO player pennants, here’s something I picked up recently, not really my cup of tea but I got this way way under the asking price. I think the price was so high no one bothered with it. Anyway, the darn thing is virtually mint. I might put it up as trade bait on B/S/T but more and more I think it’s pretty cool.

Those are definitely pricey. I just can't bring myself to pay that kind of money for a mini pennant. Definitely cool though. And you can't go wrong with Packers. Someone will want it for sure.


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