I don't believe I have seen any of these posted here before, I am pretty certain they are a 1972 issue. They are 3.5" and are identically made as the 1969(?) MLBPA b&w and color 3.5" Winona, MN pins, so I imagine they were made by the same company. They are based on two 1972 Cubs team issued color photo packs, so there are possibly pins of Glenn Beckert, Jose Cardenal, Bill Hands, Randy Hundley, Don Kessinger, Rick Monday, and Milt Pappas, but I don't know what any of their catchy nicknames would be. Of course they misspelled Hooton as Hootin.

If they were going to spell his name that way, it should've said "Rootin for Hootin". Weird, but pretty cool set!

I agree. Those are great!

These pins are very difficult to find. The five you have are the only ones I’ve seen with the nicknames. In fact, I’ve been searching for the Santo for years. If you’re ever interested in selling the “Pizza Power”, let me know.

1961 & 62 World Series Pin Info Request
 

Looking for the story behind these pins. Both measure 3.5 inches in diameter. Are there others out there? What was Shell Oil's affiliation and why? Anyone have any knowledge to share?

Thanks

1961 & 62 World Series Shell Oil Pin Info Request
 

Looking for the story behind these pins. Both measure 3.5 inches in diameter. Are there others out there? What was Shell Oil's affiliation and why? Anyone have any knowledge to share?

Thanks

Chris,
Never could find out the story about these pins. This is the first time I have seen the Reds pin. very nice. So I guess Shell oil didnt want to lose customers so they made pins for both. I have the other 1961 version of the yankees pin. They are very hard to find. So now that I know there is a 1961 reds pins it would be logical to assume there should be a 1962 Giants pin. Maybe Rob with his Giants collection may have one... Rob?

Have never seen a Giants, Al. :(

Forgot I had these:

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Attachment 378090

Attachment 378091

While scouring WorthPoint looking for unlisted 1971 studio backdrop pins for the other pin thread, I ran across a couple of interesting 1969 MLB b & w pins. The first one is a Bobby Murcer pin that is obviously not him in the picture, I'm pretty certain it is Billy Cowan who was a Yankee the first half of 1969. The second one is a 2 1/4" pin of Jim Bunning, so of the four known Phillies, Richie Allen, Jim Bunning, Deron Johnson, and Tony Taylor, the Allen is the only one that is the normal 3 1/2" size.

Does anyone remember the 2.5 inch pins being sold in stores or otherwise? I clearly remember seeing the 3.5 inch being sold in stores in the early 1970s. Sure wish I had bought every single one.

1944 Browns 6" Pin
 

Just picked up some Browns items including this 6" pinback. I'm a Cardinal collector and decided long ago that one team was enough for me (and my budget). Looking for information on this one - scarcity, value, interest, etc. Thanks.

1969 mlbpa pins
 

Has anyone put together the known checklist of these pins?

69' mlbpa
 

With the above Murcer variation, here's the 95 that I know of. I've been picking them up for years and now have 76 of them:

AARON - BW
AGEE -BW
ALLEN - BW
ANDREWS - BW
ANDREWS - C
APARICIO - BW
BANKS - BW
BANKS - C
BECKERT - BW
BLEFARY - BW
BOSWELL - BW
BROCK - BW
CALLISON - BW
CAREW - BW
CEPEDA - BW
CHARLES - BW
CLARKE - BW
CLEMENTE - BW
CLENDENON - BW
CONIGLIARO - BW
CONIGLIARO - C
CONIGLIARO, BILLY - BW
CULP - C
DIMAGGIO - BW
DRYSDALE - BW
ELLIS - BW
FERNANDEZ - C
FLOOD - BW
FREGOSI - C
GEHRIG - BW
GIBSON - BW
GROTE - BW
HARRELSON, BUD - C
HARRELSON, KEN - BW
HICKMAN - BW
HOLTZMAN - BW
HOWARD - BW
HUNDLEY - BW
JACKSON - C
JENKINS - BW
JONES, CLEON - BW
JONES, CLEON - C
JONES, DALTON - BW
KALINE - BW
KENNEY - BW
KESSINGER - BW
KILLEBREW - BW
KILLEBREW - BW - pose var.
KOOSMAN - C
KOUFAX - BW
LOLICH -BW
LONBORG - BW
LONBORG - C
MANTLE - BW
MARICHAL
MAY
MAYS
MCCLAIN - BW
MCCOVEY - BW
MELTON - BW
MICHAEL - BW
MICHAEL - C
MUNSON - BW
MURCER - BW - PIC BILLY COWAN
MURCER - C
OLIVA - BW
PEPITONE - BW - CUBS
PEPITONE - BW - YANKEES
PETROCELLI - C
PETROCELLI B&W
REICHART - C
ROBINSON, BROOKS - BW
ROBINSON, FRANK - BW
ROSE - BW
RUTH - BW
SANTO B&W
SANTO COLOR
SCOTT - BW
SCOTT - C
SEAVER - BW
SEAVER - C
SHAMSKY
SMITH - BW
SMITH - C
STOTTLEMYRE - BW
STOTTLEMYRE - C
SWABODA - BW
SWABODA - C
TORRE - BW
TRESH - C
WARD - BW
WHITE - BW
WILLIAMS/BILLY
YAZ - BW
YAZ - C

1969 pins
 

thanks for that list
if anyone can add to it please do
i can add Berra-C and Kranepool -C
picked up the kranepool today

Excellent! There is also a Kranepool-C, and these are confirmed to be 2 1/4", Banks, Beckert, Bunning, Carew, Hundley, D. Johnson, Killebrew, Mays, McCovey, Oliva, Santo, T. Taylor. I'll run through WorthPoint to see if I can add anymore.

I found a Bud Harrelson - BW and a Yogi Berra - BW on WorthPoint, each of those already mentioned were described as being color.

69's
 

Thanks for posting those. We're up to 99. Here's the color Harrelson.

pins
 

thats 102 now

I think he doesn't wants to count the three 2 1/4" Phillies, Bunning, D. Johnson, and T. Taylor, because there aren't known 3 1/2" versions of them, unless I'm mistaken. It's interesting that the known 2 1/4" pins are from four teams, Cubs - 4, Twins - 3, Phillies - 3, Giants - 2.

Pins
 

Does the 95 he listed include the other 2 1/4 or just 3 1/2 inch pins

69's
 

Yep, I just listed the 3 1/2"

Pins
 

Okay so now 99 3 1/2 inch pins
And 12 2 1/4 inch pins

Just on a hunch, I figured there is probably a very good chance that there is a 2 1/4" Juan Marichal pin because there are only two known 2 1/4" Giants so I looked at Marichal pins on WorthPoint. I could only find two there but sure enough one of them doesn't have the red line around the MLB swinging batter emblem, so I am pretty confident that the 2 1/4" Marichal exists. The pin on the left doesn't have the red line, the 3 1/2" pin on the right has the red line. The seller of the pin on the left only described it as a 1969 pin and there is no back scan.

Picked up this Norm Cash button today. Attachment 378809

Paul Muchinsky gave it a value of $300. I thought it would be more, so $300 suggests to me it’s either not exceptionally rare or not exceptionally sought after. Onteresing that they made an identical pin with a different font.

Thanks Rob - appreciate the information.

Now that there are checklists for the known 1969 MLB pins, 1971 studio backdrop pins, and the 1978-198? numbered pins, I figured I would make one for the 1972-1974 black box pins. Some of the Yankees have only YANKEES and not NEW YORK and some of the Red Sox have only RED SOX and not BOSTON, which I included, and there are some Red Sox pins that are similar to these that were apparently made in 1975-1976 that mainly feature Fred Lynn and/or Jim Rice that I didn't include. If anyone can add to the list with a scan please do.

A's- Rollie Fingers, Ken Holtzman, Reggie Jackson, Gene Tenace

Angels- Frank Robinson, Nolan Ryan, Bobby Winkles

Braves- Hank Aaron, Paul Casanova

Brewers- Pedro Garcia, Darrell Porter, Robin Yount

Cubs- Ernie Banks, Ray Burris, Jose Cardenal, Jose Cardenal (closeup), Carmen Fanzone, Vic Harris, Gene Hiser, Burt Hooton (misspelled Houton), Burt Hooton (spelled correctly), Randy Hundley, Fergie Jenkins, Don Kessinger (batting, misspelled Kissinger), Don Kessinger (fielding, spelled correctly), Bill Madlock, George Mitterwald, Rick Monday, Rick Monday (closeup), Jerry Morales, Rick Reuschel, Ron Santo, Steve Stone, Billy Williams

Giants- Bobby Bonds, Tom Bradley, Ron Bryant, Tito Fuentes, Ed Goodson, Ken Henderson, Dave Kingman, Garry Maddox, Juan Marichal, Willie McCovey, Dave Rader, Chris Speier

Mets- Tommie Agee, Jim Fregosi, Wayne Garrett, Jerry Grote, Bud Harrelson, Cleon Jones, Jerry Koosman, Willie Mays, Tug McGraw, Felix Millan, John Milner, Tom Seaver, Rusty Staub

Orioles- Don Baylor, Paul Blair, Bobby Grich, Jim Palmer, Brooks Robinson

Pirates- Roberto Clemente (arms crossed), Roberto Clemente (face only), Gene Clines, Dave Giusti, Richie Hebner (mouth open), Richie Hebner (closeup smiling), Al Oliver, Bob Robertson, Manny Sanguillen, Willie Stargell, Rennie Stennett

Rangers- David Clyde, Fergie Jenkins

Red Sox- Luis Aparicio (batting), Luis Aparicio (closeup face), Rick Burleson, Orlando Cepeda, Tony Conigliaro, Ray Culp, Dwight Evans, Carlton Fisk, Doug Griffin, Tommy Harper, Rico Petrocelli, Sonny Siebert, Reggie Smith, Luis Tiant (RED SOX only, serious expression), Luis Tiant (BOSTON RED SOX, smiling), Carl Yastrzemski (batting), Carl Yastrzemski (two tone cap), Carl Yastrzemski (Red Sox only, no Boston)

Reds- Johnny Bench, Jack Billingham, Dave Concepcion, Don Gullett, Joe Morgan, Tony Perez, Pete Rose

Tigers- Ed Brinkman, Norm Cash, Al Kaline, Mickey Lolich

Twins- Harmon Killebrew, Tony Oliva

White Sox- Dick Allen, Mike Andrews, Stan Bahnsen, Tom Bradley, Ed Hermann, Carlos May, Bill Melton, Ron Santo, Wilbur Wood

Yankees- Felipe Alou, Matty Alou, Ron Blomberg, Sparky Lyle, Bobby Murcer, Graig Nettles, Fritz Peterson, Mel Stottlemyre, Roy White

As an aside, at first glance I thought that lefty Fritz Peterson fooled the photographer by throwing right handed but it appears the photo was reversed.

You got the Giants right, Cliff.

There are actually 3 Clemente versions 1. Arms crossed, 2. close up without plastic covering 3.close up with plastic covering. The close up version is harder to find.
At first I thought the one sans the covering was merely a damaged pin missing the cover. I have since found such damaged pins and those photos are completely different. The texture on the third version is very different. I believe Scott Garner has a Nolan Ryan without the covering.

Sanguillen has two versions. The "Manny" batting pose is the tougher of the two. Richie Hebner has two versions as well. The close up Hebner is harder to find.

I have always been curious as to why Dock Ellis and Steve Blass were excluded?

Great! Checklist updated.

A's- Ray Fosse, Rollie Fingers, Ken Holtzman, Reggie Jackson, Joe Rudi, Gene Tenace

Angels- Frank Robinson, Nolan Ryan, Bobby Winkles

Braves- Hank Aaron, Paul Casanova

Brewers- Pedro Garcia, Darrell Porter, Robin Yount

Cubs- Ernie Banks, Ray Burris, Jose Cardenal (CHICAGO completely visible on uniform), Jose Cardenal (closeup, arms not showing), Carmen Fanzone, Vic Harris, Gene Hiser, Burt Hooton (misspelled Houton), Burt Hooton (spelled correctly), Randy Hundley, Fergie Jenkins, Don Kessinger (batting, misspelled Kissinger), Don Kessinger (fielding, spelled correctly), Bill Madlock, George Mitterwald, Rick Monday (bat at top of pin), Rick Monday (closeup, cap at top of pin), Jerry Morales, Rick Reuschel, Ron Santo, Steve Stone, Billy Williams

Giants- Bobby Bonds, Tom Bradley, Ron Bryant, Tito Fuentes, Ed Goodson, Ken Henderson, Dave Kingman, Garry Maddox, Juan Marichal, Willie McCovey, Dave Rader, Chris Speier

Mets- Tommie Agee, Jim Fregosi, Wayne Garrett, Jerry Grote, Bud Harrelson, Cleon Jones, Jerry Koosman, Willie Mays, Tug McGraw, Felix Millan, John Milner, Tom Seaver, Rusty Staub

Orioles- Don Baylor, Paul Blair, Pat Dobson*, Bobby Grich, Jim Palmer, Merv Rettenmund*, Brooks Robinson

Pirates- Roberto Clemente (arms crossed), Roberto Clemente (closeup face), Roberto Clemente ( closeup face, no clear plastic cover), Gene Clines, Dave Giusti, Richie Hebner (mouth open), Richie Hebner (closeup smiling), Al Oliver, Bob Robertson, Manny Sanguillen (batting), Manny Sanguillen (standing with #35 visible), Willie Stargell, Rennie Stennett

Rangers- David Clyde, Fergie Jenkins

Red Sox- Luis Aparicio (batting), Luis Aparicio (face closeup), Rick Burleson, Bernie Carbo, Orlando Cepeda, Tony Conigliaro, Ray Culp, Dwight Evans, Carlton Fisk, Doug Griffin, Tommy Harper, Rico Petrocelli, Sonny Siebert, Reggie Smith, Luis Tiant, Carl Yastrzemski (batting), Carl Yastrzemski (two tone cap), Carl Yastrzemski (Red Sox only, no Boston)

Reds- Johnny Bench, Jack Billingham, Dave Concepcion, Don Gullett, Joe Morgan, Tony Perez, Pete Rose

Tigers- Ed Brinkman, Norm Cash, Al Kaline, Mickey Lolich

Twins- Harmon Killebrew, Tony Oliva

White Sox- Dick Allen, Mike Andrews, Stan Bahnsen, Tom Bradley, Ed Hermann, Carlos May, Bill Melton, Ron Santo, Wilbur Wood

Yankees- Felipe Alou, Matty Alou, Ron Blomberg, Sparky Lyle, Bobby Murcer, Graig Nettles, Fritz Peterson, Mel Stottlemyre, Roy White

The Orioles also have Pat Dobson and Merv Rettenmund.

Two more A's

Fantastic! I found a couple of Red Sox after initially making the list, Tony Conigliaro and Bernie Carbo. ETA, your post got me to thinking there should be more A's considering these were made 1972 through 1974, so guess who popped up on WP. There's gotta be Vida Blue and Catfish Hunter out there somewhere. I messed up on the Dick Green before, he is in a couple of those huge lot scans but I mistakenly figured it was the Gene Tenace pin. They made one of Angel Mangual?!?

Checklist updated.

A's- Sal Bando, Bert Campaneris, Ray Fosse, Rollie Fingers, Dick Green, Ken Holtzman, Jim Hunter, Reggie Jackson, Angel Mangual, Bill North, Joe Rudi, Gene Tenace, Dick Williams

Angels- Frank Robinson, Nolan Ryan, Bobby Winkles

Braves- Hank Aaron, Paul Casanova

Brewers- Pedro Garcia, Darrell Porter, Robin Yount

Cubs- Ernie Banks, Ray Burris, Jose Cardenal (CHICAGO completely visible on uniform), Jose Cardenal (closeup, arms not showing), Carmen Fanzone, Vic Harris, Gene Hiser, Burt Hooton (misspelled Houton), Burt Hooton (spelled correctly), Randy Hundley, Fergie Jenkins, Don Kessinger (batting, misspelled Kissinger), Don Kessinger (fielding, spelled correctly), Bill Madlock, George Mitterwald, Rick Monday (bat at top of pin), Rick Monday (closeup, cap at top of pin), Jerry Morales, Rick Reuschel, Ron Santo, Steve Stone, Billy Williams

Giants- Bobby Bonds, Tom Bradley, Ron Bryant, Tito Fuentes, Ed Goodson, Ken Henderson, Dave Kingman, Garry Maddox, Juan Marichal, Willie McCovey, Dave Rader, Chris Speier

Mets- Tommie Agee, Jim Fregosi, Wayne Garrett, Jerry Grote, Bud Harrelson, Cleon Jones, Jerry Koosman, Willie Mays, Tug McGraw, Felix Millan, John Milner, Tom Seaver, Rusty Staub

Orioles- Don Baylor, Paul Blair, Pat Dobson*, Bobby Grich, Jim Palmer, Merv Rettenmund*, Brooks Robinson

Pirates- Roberto Clemente (arms crossed, black box below hands), Roberto Clemente (arms crossed, black box on hands), Roberto Clemente (closeup face), Roberto Clemente ( closeup face, no clear plastic cover), Gene Clines, Dave Giusti, Richie Hebner (mouth open), Richie Hebner (closeup smiling), Al Oliver, Bob Robertson, Manny Sanguillen (batting), Manny Sanguillen (standing with #35 visible), Willie Stargell, Rennie Stennett

Rangers- David Clyde, Fergie Jenkins

Red Sox- Luis Aparicio (batting), Luis Aparicio (closeup face), Rick Burleson, Bernie Carbo, Orlando Cepeda, Tony Conigliaro, Ray Culp, Dwight Evans, Carlton Fisk, Doug Griffin, Tommy Harper, Rico Petrocelli, Sonny Siebert, Reggie Smith, Luis Tiant (RED SOX only, serious expression), Luis Tiant (BOSTON RED SOX, smiling), Carl Yastrzemski (batting), Carl Yastrzemski (two tone cap), Carl Yastrzemski (RED SOX only)

Reds- Johnny Bench, Jack Billingham, Dave Concepcion, Don Gullett, Joe Morgan, Tony Perez, Pete Rose

Tigers- Ed Brinkman, Norm Cash, Al Kaline, Mickey Lolich

Twins- Harmon Killebrew, Tony Oliva

White Sox- Dick Allen, Mike Andrews, Stan Bahnsen, Tom Bradley, Ed Hermann, Carlos May, Bill Melton, Ron Santo, Wilbur Wood

Yankees- Felipe Alou, Matty Alou, Ron Blomberg, Sparky Lyle, Bobby Murcer, Graig Nettles, Fritz Peterson, Mel Stottlemyre, Roy White

So if I calculated correctly, there are 8 teams which thus far have no representatives in this set. Phillies, Dodgers, Cardinals, Expos, Indians, Astros, Royals and Padres.

^^^ Quality control wasn’t a strong suit of this set, huh? :p

But it doesn’t really make sense. Since the pins are stamped with MLBPA, it would seem all teams would have been included. What we see are some teams heavily represented, some sparsely, and some not at all. Maybe the teams heavily represented came out first for whatever reason, and then the whole project fell apart during the next wave and before some teams were even made.

I noticed that too, but those same teams are barely represented or not at all in the 1969 MLB and 1971 studio backdrop pin sets.

There is a Catfish Hunter. Im fairly certain I have one. I'll search for it later and post a photo.

Washington Pins
 

In honor of the World Champion Nationals, here is my current collection of D.C. pins, original American League franchise (1901-1960) only and downsized considerably from what it was several years ago.

1969 MLB Pins
 

I looked everywhere I could think of but could not find a scan of a 1969 MLB Pin Jerry Koosman B&W, but it would make sense because many of the Mets have a color and a B&W.

There is a 1969 Willie Horton pin on eBay. This is the first Tiger that I’ve seen.

That makes #100 on the 3.5” checklist.

pins
 

OKAY....who won that willie horton pin?

The "quality" of these "black box" pins is all over the place. Most Giants are head shots but some (e.g. Marichal) are waist up. Also, some say SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS while others say San. Fran. Giants. The Bradley is ALWAYS under-exposed. Oddly enough, the two HOF-ers are the hardest to find.

You are correct, sir.

Interesting Clemente variant
 

Not sure how this fits in to the puzzle, but the more common of the Clemente pins comes comes with the black box in 2 different placements over the photo - 1 - the most usually found Clemente with the box over his arms. The other with the black box below his arms!

I think that's just a reflection of the iffy "quality control."

It's at the very least clearly 2 different print runs. It's not just the image set differently in the pin (in fact the image is set almost exactly the same in both) - it's the black box positioned differently in the printing. I wonder if these were printed over a couple of different years. Anyone know the printing and distribution story of these? Any other players with this type of variation?

The only similar ones I know of are Jose Cardenal, Burt Hooton, and Rick Monday of the Cubs, although one of the Hooton’s is misspelled Houton. The only teams that apparently had different pins of the the same players are the Cubs, Pirates, and Red Sox.

A black box button of Dick Allen with the Cardinals sold last week on eBay, so you can add that to the list. It also suggests the set came out earlier than 1972 since Allen only played with the Cardinals in 1970.

Hmmm, the first Cardinal and a timeframe of 1970. These proofs of Yaz and Culp have a 1970 copyright so it's entirely possible that some were made in that year.

Checklist updated.

A's- Sal Bando, Bert Campaneris, Ray Fosse, Rollie Fingers, Dick Green, Ken Holtzman, Jim Hunter, Reggie Jackson, Angel Mangual, Bill North, Joe Rudi, Gene Tenace, Dick Williams

Angels- Frank Robinson, Nolan Ryan, Bobby Winkles

Braves- Hank Aaron, Paul Casanova

Brewers- Pedro Garcia, Darrell Porter, Robin Yount

Cardinals- Dick Allen

Cubs- Ernie Banks, Ray Burris, Jose Cardenal (CHICAGO completely visible on uniform), Jose Cardenal (closeup, arms not showing), Carmen Fanzone, Vic Harris, Gene Hiser, Burt Hooton (misspelled Houton), Burt Hooton (spelled correctly), Randy Hundley, Fergie Jenkins, Don Kessinger (batting, misspelled Kissinger), Don Kessinger (fielding, spelled correctly), Bill Madlock, George Mitterwald, Rick Monday (bat at top of pin), Rick Monday (closeup, cap at top of pin), Jerry Morales, Rick Reuschel, Ron Santo, Steve Stone, Billy Williams

Giants- Bobby Bonds, Tom Bradley, Ron Bryant, Tito Fuentes, Ed Goodson, Ken Henderson, Dave Kingman, Garry Maddox, Juan Marichal, Willie McCovey, Dave Rader, Chris Speier

Mets- Tommie Agee, Jim Fregosi, Wayne Garrett, Jerry Grote, Bud Harrelson, Cleon Jones, Jerry Koosman, Willie Mays, Tug McGraw, Felix Millan, John Milner, Tom Seaver, Rusty Staub

Orioles- Don Baylor, Paul Blair, Pat Dobson*, Bobby Grich, Jim Palmer, Merv Rettenmund*, Brooks Robinson

Pirates- Roberto Clemente (arms crossed, black box below hands), Roberto Clemente (arms crossed, black box on hands), Roberto Clemente (closeup face), Roberto Clemente ( closeup face, no clear plastic cover), Gene Clines, Dave Giusti, Richie Hebner (mouth open), Richie Hebner (closeup smiling), Al Oliver, Bob Robertson, Manny Sanguillen (batting), Manny Sanguillen (standing with #35 visible), Willie Stargell, Rennie Stennett

Rangers- David Clyde, Fergie Jenkins

Red Sox- Luis Aparicio (batting), Luis Aparicio (closeup face), Rick Burleson (error, photo Butch Hobson), Rick Burleson (correct photo), Bernie Carbo, Orlando Cepeda, Tony Conigliaro, Ray Culp (BOSTON RED SOX), Ray Culp (RED SOX only), Dwight Evans, Carlton Fisk, Doug Griffin, Tommy Harper, Butch Hobson (error, photo Rick Burleson), Butch Hobson (correct photo), Rico Petrocelli, Sonny Siebert, Reggie Smith, Luis Tiant (RED SOX only, serious expression), Luis Tiant (BOSTON RED SOX, smiling), Carl Yastrzemski (batting), Carl Yastrzemski (two tone cap), Carl Yastrzemski (RED SOX only)

Reds- Johnny Bench, Jack Billingham, Dave Concepcion, Don Gullett, Joe Morgan, Tony Perez, Pete Rose

Tigers- Ed Brinkman, Norm Cash, Al Kaline, Mickey Lolich

Twins- Harmon Killebrew, Tony Oliva

White Sox- Dick Allen, Mike Andrews, Stan Bahnsen, Tom Bradley, Ed Hermann, Carlos May, Bill Melton, Ron Santo, Wilbur Wood

Yankees- Felipe Alou, Matty Alou, Ron Blomberg, Sparky Lyle, Bobby Murcer, Graig Nettles, Fritz Peterson, Mel Stottlemyre, Roy White

Very interesting - the images of the 3 players you show are the same image, just cropped very differently. Looking carefully at the 2 Clemente's - they ARE cropped ever so slightly differently!

With the 1970 Copyright date, I would say they have to have been done in 1970 - now the question is were they done again in years after? I don't know players playing years really well - Any team/player combo on the list that COULDN'T be from 1970?

The absence of Senators players would seem to mitigate against a 1970 date of issue, and the presence of the Rangers would indicate 1972 or later.

"Any team/player combo on the list that COULDN'T be from 1970"

Many of the players joined their teams after 1970, such as Dick Allen, who first played for the White Sox in 1972, and Rusty Staub, who joined the Mets the same year. Allen also has a button with the Cardinals. Frank Robinson didn't join the Angels until 1973.

Larry, do you think that was a good price for the Horton? I never seen a Tiger before and had a bid of $60 on it when I left for work. When I came home from work and checked eBay only to see that it went for twice that amount.

Attachment 380468


Picked up this nice Al Kaline pin today.

There is a 1969 MLB Al Kaline.

1969 pins
 

every time a new player shows up that no one has the price shoots way up
thats the way it is
im sure that kaline would bring 200 or more now

1969 pins
 

what we need to do here is start a new post just with the known checklist
with NO responses except adding to the checklist

I think my research on the Giants showed the Giants pins had to be 1972-73.

:oTom Bradley didn't become a Giant until 1973, so he has to be a 1973 issue. The photo for the Tom Bradley Giants pin was no doubt taken during 1973 spring training. I can't find it now (I wish I had taken a scan) but on my original search through WorthPoint looking for these black box pins I saw a pic of the Tom Bradley pin with the White Sox which in turn means that White Sox pin must be a 1972 issue. ETA, if the Giants pins were made in 1972 I would think there would be a Willie Mays. Even though he was traded in May of 1972, I can’t imagine that if they had a bunch of Mays Giants pins in production that they would then destroy all of them only because he was traded. Edited again: Uh oh, my own theory blew up in my face. Tom Bradley was traded FOR Ken Henderson in November 1972, so the Henderson Giants pin can only be a 1972 issue. Maybe the SAN FRANCISCO pins are 1972, and the SAN FRAN. pins are 1973 :o?

The Ron Santo White Sox pin had to be made in 1974 as he was still with the Cubs in 1973. There has to be others that were made as late as 74 but unless they changed teams it impossible to tell

Was this one on the list? BTW he wasn’t in the majors until 1975.

No he isn’t, and now that extends the time frame from 1970 to 1975. I will add him to the checklist. I ran across some circa 1975 pins of Fred Lynn and Jim Rice that were very similar to these but they didn’t have BOSTON or RED SOX printed in the black box so I didn’t include them. I did see a Rick Burleson pin with a different photo but the black box was partially covered by another pin so I couldn’t see if RED SOX was in the black box or not. ETA, after you mentioned the Hobson pin I looked up Hobson pins on WP and found this interesting lot that included two error pins, Burleson and Hobson each with switched photos. Apparently these were an early printing error that were quickly corrected.

Added a nice 1969 Detroit Tiger team pin back button to my collection.

Attachment 380577

Ran across this interesting Denny McLain pin on WP, it appears to be a legitimate 1969 MLB pin, but it is 6" in diameter(!) and has a cardboard easel back.

Wow! The stars in the background are bizarre.

Should we start a new checklist for 6” pins with stars? 😝

1969 MLB Pins
 

With apologies to andypcl, I'll give it a try. If I have any teams wrong someone let me know.

3.5"
Hank Aaron (Braves) B&W
Tommie Agee (Mets) B&W
Richie Allen (Phillies) B&W
Mike Andrews (Red Sox) B&W
Mike Andrews (Red Sox) Color
Luis Aparicio (White Sox) B&W
Ernie Banks (Cubs) B&W
Ernie Banks (Cubs) Color
Glenn Beckert (Cubs) B&W
Yogi Berra (Mets) B&W
Yogi Berra (Mets) Color
Curt Blefary (Yankees) B&W
Ken Boswell (Mets) B&W
Lou Brock (Cardinals) B&W
John Callison (Cubs) B&W
Rod Carew (Twins) B&W
Orlando Cepeda (Braves) B&W
Ed Charles (Mets) B&W
Horace Clarke (Yankees) B&W
Roberto Clemente (Pirates) B&W
Donn Clendenon (Mets) B&W
Billy Conigliaro (Red Sox) B&W
Tony Conigliaro (Red Sox) B&W
Tony Conigliaro (Red Sox) Color
Ray Culp (Red Sox) Color
Joe DiMaggio (Yankees) B&W
Don Drysdale (Dodgers) B&W
John Ellis (Yankees) B&W
Frank Fernandez (Yankees) Color
Curt Flood (Cardinals) B&W
Jim Fregosi (Angels) Color
Lou Gehrig (Yankees) B&W
Bob Gibson (Cardinals) B&W
Jerry Grote (Mets) B&W
Bud Harrelson (Mets) B&W
Bud Harrelson (Mets) Color
Ken Harrelson (Red Sox) B&W
Jim Hickman (Cubs) B&W
Ken Holtzman (Cubs) B&W
Willie Horton (Tigers) B&W
Frank Howard (Senators) B&W
Randy Hundley (Cubs) B&W
Reggie Jackson (A's) Color
Fergie Jenkins (Cubs) B&W
Cleon Jones (Mets) B&W
Cleon Jones (Mets) Color
Dalton Jones (Red Sox) B&W
Al Kaline (Tigers) B&W
Jerry Kenney (Yankees) B&W
Don Kessinger (Cubs) B&W
Harmon Killebrew one ear showing (Twins) B&W
Harmon Killebrew two ears showing (Twins) B&W
Jerry Koosman (Mets) Color
Sandy Koufax (Dodgers) B&W
Ed Kranepool (Mets) Color
Mickey Lolich (Tigers) B&W
Jim Lonborg (Red Sox) B&W
Jim Lonborg (Red Sox) Color
Mickey Mantle (Yankees) B&W
Juan Marichal (Giants) B&W
Carlos May (White Sox) B&W
Willie Mays (Giants) B&W
Willie McCovey (Giants) B&W
Denny McLain (Tigers) B&W
Bill Melton (White Sox) B&W
Gene Michael (Yankees) B&W
Gene Michael (Yankees) Color
Thurman Munson (Yankees) B&W
Bobby Murcer-photo actually Billy Cowan (Yankees) B&W
Bobby Murcer (Yankees) Color
Tony Oliva (Twins) B&W
Joe Pepitone (Yankees) B&W
Joe Pepitone (Cubs) B&W
Rico Petrocelli (Red Sox) B&W
Rico Petrocelli (Red Sox) Color
Rick Reichardt (Angels) Color
Brooks Robinson (Orioles) B&W
Frank Robinson (Orioles) B&W
Pete Rose (Reds) B&W
Babe Ruth (Yankees) B&W
Ron Santo (Cubs) B&W
Ron Santo (Cubs) Color
George Scott (Red Sox) B&W
George Scott (Red Sox) Color
Tom Seaver (Mets) B&W
Tom Seaver (Mets) Color
Art Shamsky (Mets) B&W
Reggie Smith (Red Sox) B&W
Reggie Smith (Red Sox) Color
Mel Stottlemyre (Yankees) B&W
Mel Stottlemyre (Yankees) Color
Ron Swoboda (Mets) B&W
Ron Swoboda (Mets) Color
Joe Torre (Cardinals) B&W
Tom Tresh (Yankees) Color
Pete Ward (White Sox) B&W
Roy White (Yankees) B&W
Billy Williams (Cubs) B&W
Carl Yastrzemski (Red Sox) B&W
Carl Yastrzemski (Red Sox) Color

2.25"
Ernie Banks (Cubs) B&W
Glenn Beckert (Cubs) B&W
Jim Bunning (Phillies) B&W
Rod Carew (Twins) B&W
Randy Hundley (Cubs) B&W
Deron Johnson (Phillies) B&W
Harmon Killebrew (Twins) B&W
Willie Mays (Giants) B&W
Willie McCovey (Giants) B&W
Tony Oliva (Twins) B&W
Ron Santo (Cubs) B&W
Tony Taylor (Phillies) B&W

6"
Denny McLain (Tigers) Color

Possibly exist but not confirmed
3.5" Jerry Koosman (Mets) B&W
2.25" Juan Marichal (Giants) B&W

Hi-

I don't think this Rice pin is on the checklist. It does say Boston Red Sox in the black box.

Alan

Don’t see this one listed

Thanks! If there is a Jim Rice and a Butch Hobson then there's undoubtedly a Fred Lynn out there with the team name.

Dagnabbit! I knew I would forget somebody. I also missed Dalton Jones and one more I haven’t figured out yet :o. ETA It was Bob Gibson. Checklist is good to go now with 100 confirmed 3.5" pins.

Early 70's Black Box Pins
 

Checklist updated.

A's- Sal Bando, Bert Campaneris, Ray Fosse, Rollie Fingers, Dick Green, Ken Holtzman, Jim Hunter, Reggie Jackson, Angel Mangual, Bill North, Joe Rudi, Gene Tenace, Dick Williams

Angels- Frank Robinson, Nolan Ryan, Bobby Winkles

Braves- Hank Aaron, Paul Casanova

Brewers- Pedro Garcia, Darrell Porter, Robin Yount

Cardinals- Dick Allen

Cubs- Ernie Banks, Ray Burris, Jose Cardenal (CHICAGO completely visible on uniform), Jose Cardenal (closeup, arms not showing), Carmen Fanzone, Vic Harris, Gene Hiser, Burt Hooton (misspelled Houton), Burt Hooton (spelled correctly), Randy Hundley, Fergie Jenkins, Don Kessinger (batting, misspelled Kissinger), Don Kessinger (fielding, spelled correctly), Bill Madlock, George Mitterwald, Rick Monday (bat at top of pin), Rick Monday (closeup, cap at top of pin), Jerry Morales, Rick Reuschel, Ron Santo, Steve Stone, Billy Williams

Giants- Bobby Bonds, Tom Bradley, Ron Bryant, Tito Fuentes, Ed Goodson, Ken Henderson, Dave Kingman, Garry Maddox, Juan Marichal, Willie McCovey, Dave Rader, Chris Speier

Mets- Tommie Agee, Jim Fregosi, Wayne Garrett, Jerry Grote, Bud Harrelson, Cleon Jones, Jerry Koosman, Willie Mays, Tug McGraw, Felix Millan, John Milner, Tom Seaver, Rusty Staub

Orioles- Don Baylor, Paul Blair, Pat Dobson, Bobby Grich, Jim Palmer, Merv Rettenmund, Brooks Robinson

Pirates- Roberto Clemente (arms crossed, black box below hands), Roberto Clemente (arms crossed, black box on hands), Roberto Clemente (closeup face), Roberto Clemente ( closeup face, no clear plastic cover), Gene Clines, Dave Giusti, Richie Hebner (mouth open), Richie Hebner (closeup smiling), Al Oliver, Bob Robertson, Manny Sanguillen (batting), Manny Sanguillen (standing with #35 visible), Willie Stargell, Rennie Stennett

Rangers- David Clyde, Fergie Jenkins

Red Sox- Luis Aparicio (batting), Luis Aparicio (closeup face), Rick Burleson (error, photo Butch Hobson), Rick Burleson (correct photo), Bernie Carbo, Orlando Cepeda, Tony Conigliaro, Ray Culp (BOSTON RED SOX), Ray Culp (RED SOX only), Dwight Evans, Carlton Fisk, Doug Griffin, Tommy Harper, Butch Hobson (error, photo Rick Burleson), Butch Hobson (correct photo), Rico Petrocelli, Jim Rice, Sonny Siebert, Reggie Smith, Luis Tiant (RED SOX only, serious expression), Luis Tiant (BOSTON RED SOX, smiling), Carl Yastrzemski (batting), Carl Yastrzemski (two tone cap), Carl Yastrzemski (RED SOX only)

Reds- Johnny Bench, Jack Billingham, Dave Concepcion, Don Gullett, Joe Morgan, Tony Perez, Pete Rose

Tigers- Ed Brinkman, Norm Cash, Al Kaline, Mickey Lolich

Twins- Harmon Killebrew, Tony Oliva

White Sox- Dick Allen, Mike Andrews, Stan Bahnsen, Tom Bradley, Ed Hermann, Carlos May, Bill Melton, Ron Santo, Wilbur Wood

Yankees- Felipe Alou, Matty Alou, Ron Blomberg, Sparky Lyle, Bobby Murcer, Graig Nettles, Fritz Peterson, Mel Stottlemyre, Roy White

Here’s the Dobson and Rettenmund so they can get the * removed.

Thanks!

Early 70's Black Box Pins
 

Butch Hobson only played in two games with four at bats in 1975, so I believe it’s safe to say that the black box pins were made through 1976 for the Red Sox. It looks like every other team was made no later than early 1974, including the five new 1974 Cubs players with Spring Training photos, Ron Santo with the White Sox, Fergie Jenkins with the Rangers, and an early rookie pin of Robin Yount.