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Aquarian Sports Cards 11-04-2021 06:22 AM

I have a 10/3 received order that hasn't moved yet.

Frank A 11-04-2021 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 2143443)
So...they are better than PSA except for the most important metric of all. Got it.

PS - I think Ted would disagree with you.

Amazing how much you pimp for psa.

vthobby 11-05-2021 10:16 AM

SGC turnaround....
 
Received by SGC on 9/29/21
Shipping back to me 11/5/21

Peace, Mike

Scott L. 11-05-2021 11:23 AM

I have a 10/4 received order that hasn't moved but judging by Mike's post above I assume it will be soon.

vthobby 11-05-2021 11:30 AM

I think so also....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott L. (Post 2160889)
I have a 10/4 received order that hasn't moved but judging by Mike's post above I assume it will be soon.

I was figuring based on others that mine would be done the 1st week of November and they hit in that window.

I'd think yours might hit late next week! Hoping for you!

Thanks! Mike

bobbyw8469 11-05-2021 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Frank A (Post 2160401)
Amazing how much you pimp for psa.

Uhhh...I don't pimp for them....and nothing of what I am saying is top secret info. It's public knowledge.

vthobby 11-05-2021 12:21 PM

Update....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 2160892)
Uhhh...I don't pimp for them....and nothing of what I am saying is top secret info. It's public knowledge.

Bobby did you ever get resolution on that missing Sub? Just curious as I was following that and have been super busy lately so just curious! Hope they remedied it!

Mike

bobbyw8469 11-05-2021 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtgmsc (Post 2160906)
Bobby did you ever get resolution on that missing Sub? Just curious as I was following that and have been super busy lately so just curious! Hope they remedied it!

Mike

They cut me a check and called it a day.

vthobby 11-05-2021 03:02 PM

Wow!
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 2160920)
They cut me a check and called it a day.

At least you got your customer's money back but damn, thats alot of cards floating out there somewhere!

Thanks for the update!

Mike

vthobby 11-08-2021 08:22 AM

Recent grades....
 
Recent submission of mine and a friend's. No interest in trading or selling right now. Just wanted to post FYI. 9/29/21 accepted at SGC.......back in mail to me 11/5/21.....or about 18 months faster than PSA


1 1979-80 O-Pee-Chee #18 Wayne Gretzky -- 3
2 2005-06 Fleer Ultra #251 Sidney Crosby -- 9.5
3 1975-76 Topps #100 Bobby Orr -- 8
4 1985-86 Topps #9 Mario Lemieux -- 6.5
5 1971-72 Topps #45 Ken Dryden -- 3.5
6 2009-10 Panini #307 Stephen Curry -- 9
7 2008-09 Topps Chrome #24 KOBE BRYANT -- 10 GM
8 1989 Topps Traded Tiffany #41T Ken Griffey Jr. -- 9
9 1989 Upper Deck #1 Ken Griffey Jr. -- 9
10 1976 Topps #148 Walter Payton -- 6.5
11 2019 Topps Chrome #201 VLADIMIR GUERRERO JR Prism Refractor 9
12 2018-19 Panini Chronicles #512 LUKA DONCIC -- 9
13 1975 Topps #228 George Brett -- 8
14 1987 Auburn Tigers Bo Jackson Tiger Great 7.5
15 1987 Auburn Tigers FRANK THOMAS -- 8.5
16 2017 Panini Crown Royale #84 PATRICK MAHOMES II -- 9
17 2017-18 Panini Prizm #16 JAYSON TATUM -- 9.5
18 2000-01 Topps Finest FMR11 VINCE CARTER Moments 9
19 1977-78 Topps #100 Julius Erving -- 8
20 1999-00 Topps AM15 KOBE BRYANT All-Matrix 9
21 1965 Topps #160 Bob Clemente -- 6
22 1981 TCMA #15 Wade Boggs Pawtucket Red Sox 8
23 2019 Topps Chrome #203 FERNANDO TATIS JR. Xfractor 9
24 1960 Topps #148 Carl Yastrzemski -- 3.5
25 1986-87 Topps #53 Patrick Roy -- 7
26 1973 Topps #615 Mike Schmidt -- 4.5
27 1973 Topps #615 Mike Schmidt -- 4.5
28 1973 Topps #615 Mike Schmidt -- 3
29 1961-62 Fleer #3 Elgin Baylor -- A
30 1961-62 Fleer #61 Oscar Robertson Evidence of Trimming
31 2019 Topps '84 Chrome U T84U-34 FERNANDO TATIS JR. 10 GM
32 2020-21 Panini Prizm #278 Lamelo Ball -- 10 GM
33 2020-21 Panini Prizm #278 Lamelo Ball -- 9.5
34 1996 SI For Kids #536 Tiger Woods -- 5
35 2000 SI For Kids #877 Venus & Serena Williams -- 4.5
36 1999 SI For Kids #814 Serena Williams -- 6
37 2021 Panini Elite #104 Mac Jones -- 9
38 1996-97 Topps #22 Bird/Erving/Johnson Finest Reprint 8.5
39 2021 Panini Prizm D.P. DPA-TLA Trey Lance Autographed 9.5
40 2018 Panini Illusions #20 JUAN SOTO Autographed 9

jb67 11-08-2021 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtgmsc (Post 2161870)
Recent submission of mine and a friend's. No interest in trading or selling right now. Just wanted to post FYI. 9/29/21 accepted at SGC.......back in mail to me 11/5/21.....or about 18 months faster than PSA


1 1979-80 O-Pee-Chee #18 Wayne Gretzky -- 3
2 2005-06 Fleer Ultra #251 Sidney Crosby -- 9.5
3 1975-76 Topps #100 Bobby Orr -- 8
4 1985-86 Topps #9 Mario Lemieux -- 6.5
5 1971-72 Topps #45 Ken Dryden -- 3.5
6 2009-10 Panini #307 Stephen Curry -- 9
7 2008-09 Topps Chrome #24 KOBE BRYANT -- 10 GM
8 1989 Topps Traded Tiffany #41T Ken Griffey Jr. -- 9
9 1989 Upper Deck #1 Ken Griffey Jr. -- 9
10 1976 Topps #148 Walter Payton -- 6.5
11 2019 Topps Chrome #201 VLADIMIR GUERRERO JR Prism Refractor 9
12 2018-19 Panini Chronicles #512 LUKA DONCIC -- 9
13 1975 Topps #228 George Brett -- 8
14 1987 Auburn Tigers Bo Jackson Tiger Great 7.5
15 1987 Auburn Tigers FRANK THOMAS -- 8.5
16 2017 Panini Crown Royale #84 PATRICK MAHOMES II -- 9
17 2017-18 Panini Prizm #16 JAYSON TATUM -- 9.5
18 2000-01 Topps Finest FMR11 VINCE CARTER Moments 9
19 1977-78 Topps #100 Julius Erving -- 8
20 1999-00 Topps AM15 KOBE BRYANT All-Matrix 9
21 1965 Topps #160 Bob Clemente -- 6
22 1981 TCMA #15 Wade Boggs Pawtucket Red Sox 8
23 2019 Topps Chrome #203 FERNANDO TATIS JR. Xfractor 9
24 1960 Topps #148 Carl Yastrzemski -- 3.5
25 1986-87 Topps #53 Patrick Roy -- 7
26 1973 Topps #615 Mike Schmidt -- 4.5
27 1973 Topps #615 Mike Schmidt -- 4.5
28 1973 Topps #615 Mike Schmidt -- 3
29 1961-62 Fleer #3 Elgin Baylor -- A
30 1961-62 Fleer #61 Oscar Robertson Evidence of Trimming
31 2019 Topps '84 Chrome U T84U-34 FERNANDO TATIS JR. 10 GM
32 2020-21 Panini Prizm #278 Lamelo Ball -- 10 GM
33 2020-21 Panini Prizm #278 Lamelo Ball -- 9.5
34 1996 SI For Kids #536 Tiger Woods -- 5
35 2000 SI For Kids #877 Venus & Serena Williams -- 4.5
36 1999 SI For Kids #814 Serena Williams -- 6
37 2021 Panini Elite #104 Mac Jones -- 9
38 1996-97 Topps #22 Bird/Erving/Johnson Finest Reprint 8.5
39 2021 Panini Prizm D.P. DPA-TLA Trey Lance Autographed 9.5
40 2018 Panini Illusions #20 JUAN SOTO Autographed 9


A bummer on the Oscar Robertson rookie.

vthobby 11-08-2021 01:18 PM

Yes....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jb67 (Post 2161973)
A bummer on the Oscar Robertson rookie.

True but luckily I still gave 4 graded Oscar signed Rookies thankfully. ;)

Mike

butchie_t 11-08-2021 03:11 PM

Here is an update to my submission status as of today:


Sub was received by SGC on: 10/4/21 (Two cards)


Graded on: 11/8/21
Went to Post-Grading Processing on: 11/8/21

Scott L. 11-08-2021 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by butchie_t (Post 2162020)
Here is an update to my submission status as of today:


Sub was received by SGC on: 10/4/21 (Two cards)


Graded on: 11/8/21
Went to Post-Grading Processing on: 11/8/21

Same with mine on a 10/4/21 Received Date

Aquarian Sports Cards 11-08-2021 03:26 PM

I was wrong my received date was 10/5 Let's hope they move tomorrow. Would love to get them in Wednesday's auction.

butchie_t 11-08-2021 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 2162029)
I was wrong my received date was 10/5 Let's hope they move tomorrow. Would love to get them in Wednesday's auction.

Fingers crossed, SGC seems to be moving well at this point!

Oscar_Stanage 11-08-2021 05:21 PM

The person who submitted on 9/29 and was sent back by SGC on 11/5, I am a day behind…. I submitted on 9/30 and it was mailed back to me today, 1 business day later .

butchie_t 11-09-2021 10:19 AM

Latest update from SGC:

Sub was received by SGC on: 10/4/21 (Two cards)

Graded on: 11/8/21

Went to Post-Grading Processing on: 11/8/21

Shipped today: 8/9/21


26 business days from received to shipped (not counting the holiday).

Aquarian Sports Cards 11-09-2021 10:21 AM

my received on 10/5 still has no change :(

Aquarian Sports Cards 11-10-2021 10:13 AM

We made it. Cards are in post-grading. Anyone know when I can expect to see the grades? Auction opens tonight so these will have to be a late addition but hopefully we have them in by the weekend!

butchie_t 11-10-2021 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 2162631)
We made it. Cards are in post-grading. Anyone know when I can expect to see the grades? Auction opens tonight so these will have to be a late addition but hopefully we have them in by the weekend!

when I got the shipped notification I could see grades. Click on your order number and you can see them there. I got a split decision. One good (what I expected), one SUCKED!

Scott L. 11-10-2021 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 2162631)
We made it. Cards are in post-grading. Anyone know when I can expect to see the grades? Auction opens tonight so these will have to be a late addition but hopefully we have them in by the weekend!

Mine sat in post grading for a day. 11/8 post, 11/9 graded.

vthobby 11-10-2021 12:12 PM

Scott....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 2162631)
We made it. Cards are in post-grading. Anyone know when I can expect to see the grades? Auction opens tonight so these will have to be a late addition but hopefully we have them in by the weekend!


i used USPS Priority, I saw tracking on Friday and just got them today. Honestly, your cards hit exactly when I thought they would so I think depending on distance to ship, you are still about 6 to 8 days from getting your cards in hand. Hopefully a bit sooner but that is my estimate. You should see your grades in 1 to 2 days.

Mike

Aquarian Sports Cards 11-10-2021 01:44 PM

We imaged before we sent, so if I have a grade I can list and update the image later. They are actually listed as "graded" today, so keeping my fingers crossed I see grades today, that would be a bonus.

butchie_t 11-10-2021 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 2162709)
We imaged before we sent, so if I have a grade I can list and update the image later. They are actually listed as "graded" today, so keeping my fingers crossed I see grades today, that would be a bonus.

Scott,

When you click on your order number it should take you to your order form. That is were I could see and can see my grades against the cards listed on the order form. My grades showed up the day they shipped......yesterday.

Hope that helps.

B. T.

Snowman 11-10-2021 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards (Post 2162709)
We imaged before we sent, so if I have a grade I can list and update the image later. They are actually listed as "graded" today, so keeping my fingers crossed I see grades today, that would be a bonus.

SGC also uploads nice scanned images of your cards to their site after they slab them. You might be able to use those scans before you even get the cards in hand. If you log into your account and click on the link below, it will have a link to your scanned images folder.

https://www.gosgc.com/account/sellerready

Aquarian Sports Cards 11-10-2021 05:56 PM

Thanks, they are being overnighted so I assume I'll have them in hand by Friday.

Oscar_Stanage 11-11-2021 04:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowman (Post 2162780)
SGC also uploads nice scanned images of your cards to their site after they slab them. You might be able to use those scans before you even get the cards in hand. If you log into your account and click on the link below, it will have a link to your scanned images folder.

https://www.gosgc.com/account/sellerready

The cards will be “seller ready” but unfortunately there will be no one “buyer ready “

cammb 11-11-2021 09:54 AM

Grading Decline
 
Is it me or anyone else receiving what we would call under graded cards back? Specifically cards from 1969 or earlier. Since this pandemic plagued grading fiasco where the grading companies were forced to hire more graders I have personally noted this decline.

vthobby 11-12-2021 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cammb (Post 2162971)
Is it me or anyone else receiving what we would call under graded cards back? Specifically cards from 1969 or earlier. Since this pandemic plagued grading fiasco where the grading companies were forced to hire more graders I have personally noted this decline.

Tony, SGC has been around for many years and I've been buying/selling since Day 1 with their slabs. Throughout the years, they have maintained consistency, good customer service, a fast graded product, and a knack for weeding out trimmed and doctored cards. You may have a had a batch of bad luck or timing but overall, SGC is spot on. Most of the time!

Mike

irv 11-12-2021 04:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtgmsc (Post 2163241)
Tony, SGC has been around for many years and I've been buying/selling since Day 1 with their slabs. Throughout the years, they have maintained consistency, good customer service, a fast graded product, and a knack for weeding out trimmed and doctored cards. You may have a had a batch of bad luck or timing but overall, SGC is spot on. Most of the time!

Mike

I've always thought SGC graded the toughest out of any of the TPG's, and are the most consistent as well.
They are not perfect, but I believe they are the closest to that.

cammb 11-12-2021 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vtgmsc (Post 2163241)
Tony, SGC has been around for many years and I've been buying/selling since Day 1 with their slabs. Throughout the years, they have maintained consistency, good customer service, a fast graded product, and a knack for weeding out trimmed and doctored cards. You may have a had a batch of bad luck or timing but overall, SGC is spot on. Most of the time!

Mike


I, too, have been using SGC for many years but a recent sub of only three cards left me scratching my head. I will play the game of guess the grade . I will try to upload the cards in question later today under a separate thread.

jchcollins 11-12-2021 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cammb (Post 2162971)
Is it me or anyone else receiving what we would call under graded cards back? Specifically cards from 1969 or earlier. Since this pandemic plagued grading fiasco where the grading companies were forced to hire more graders I have personally noted this decline.

Around when the pandemic started in 2020, SGC lost the script on a lot of things - particularly centering - which may have been related to the hiring of new graders. (?) I got a couple of '72 cards in 5's and 5.5's where the grade was clearly tied only to centering - they were NM or better cards otherwise - and it's like nobody taught the graders the difference between 85/15 and 65/35. The latter does not deserve a downgrade to EX range or lower if otherwise a pack fresh card. Yes, all graders make mistakes but realistically we are talking hundreds or thousands of dollars difference in some cases with the more pricey cards. It's expected, but also extremely frustrating. I'm not sure if SGC has resolved that particular tendency around centering yet or not. I've been loathe to send them any more cards since they later returned me Mantles in slabs with plastic shards sticking into the edges of the card.

Aquarian Sports Cards 11-12-2021 03:30 PM

Ugh, so entered Post Grading on 11/10 and still no grades let alone my overnight shipment arriving by today. Guess they'll hold until next Pre War auction.

Snowman 11-16-2021 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jchcollins (Post 2163307)
Around when the pandemic started in 2020, SGC lost the script on a lot of things - particularly centering - which may have been related to the hiring of new graders. (?) I got a couple of '72 cards in 5's and 5.5's where the grade was clearly tied only to centering - they were NM or better cards otherwise - and it's like nobody taught the graders the difference between 85/15 and 65/35. The latter does not deserve a downgrade to EX range or lower if otherwise a pack fresh card. Yes, all graders make mistakes but realistically we are talking hundreds or thousands of dollars difference in some cases with the more pricey cards. It's expected, but also extremely frustrating. I'm not sure if SGC has resolved that particular tendency around centering yet or not. I've been loathe to send them any more cards since they later returned me Mantles in slabs with plastic shards sticking into the edges of the card.

I've noticed this as well. Even PSA has abandoned their published centering standards since the pandemic began. Both have moved the goalposts on us.

Oscar_Stanage 11-16-2021 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snowman (Post 2164647)
I've noticed this as well. Even PSA has abandoned their published centering standards since the pandemic began. Both have moved the goalposts on us.

centering has clearly gotten tougher. what baffles me about centering is that it is the only category that is scientific, and should be consistent. I doubt the graders even bother to measure - it is all done by eye.

mrreality68 11-16-2021 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wid_Conroy (Post 2164660)
centering has clearly gotten tougher. what baffles me about centering is that it is the only category that is scientific, and should be consistent. I doubt the graders even bother to measure - it is all done by eye.

+1 Agree and a little scary especially when talking about how it effects the grading and thus the value to some people

Mutton Chop Yaz 12-01-2021 01:33 PM

How fast is SGC cranking these days? I have a few orders out, all received in the last month.

Has anyone received grades recently? If so, when did SGC receive your cards?

nineunder71 12-01-2021 02:15 PM

I have an order that was shipped back to me yesterday from SGC. They received this order 10-22

Best of Luck


Quote:

Originally Posted by Mutton Chop Yaz (Post 2170186)
How fast is SGC cranking these days? I have a few orders out, all received in the last month.

Has anyone received grades recently? If so, when did SGC receive your cards?


Mutton Chop Yaz 12-01-2021 02:17 PM

Thank you! The earliest of my orders was received 10/29, so hopefully it's not far behind.

Lorewalker 12-01-2021 07:58 PM

My buddy had a sub received on 10/27 that just hit post grading today. As far as turnaround I am not sure anyone could ask for much more.

Mutton Chop Yaz 12-03-2021 09:06 AM

My order received on 10/29 hit post-grading processing yesterday. Not bad at all!

Jcosta19 12-13-2021 06:05 PM

Nevermind

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whiteymet 01-04-2022 01:08 PM

SGC timeline updates?
 
Any new updates on SGC timeline?

Those getting things back now when did you submit?

Mine accepted 12/6/21 still marked received

OldOriole 01-04-2022 01:12 PM

latest
 
They received mine on 11/29. Graded on 12/23. Just got an email yesterday that they're on the way back to me now.

vthobby 01-04-2022 01:36 PM

Quick as usual.....
 
- Received at SGC 11/24/21

- Graded on 12/23/21

- I just got them back yesterday via priority mail on 1/3/21

Mike

nineunder71 02-03-2022 11:25 AM

Anyone get an order back recently? How we tracking at the current moment?

I’m anxious I guess, have an order they received Jan 20, and hoping for an estimate from someone

Thanks All

Tyruscobb 02-03-2022 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nineunder71 (Post 2193133)
Anyone get an order back recently? How we tracking at the current moment?

I’m anxious I guess, have an order they received Jan 20, and hoping for an estimate from someone

Thanks All

Are you serious? It’s less than two weeks? Good thing you are not in Bobby’s PSA group submission that is now going on a year!

Jcosta19 02-03-2022 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nineunder71 (Post 2193133)
Anyone get an order back recently? How we tracking at the current moment?



I’m anxious I guess, have an order they received Jan 20, and hoping for an estimate from someone



Thanks All

Mine took 5 weeks total. Forget the exact dates but it was mid December to Mid Jan.

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bobblesandballcards 02-03-2022 12:24 PM

I am a group submitter for SGC, as of yesterday orders that were received on 01/18 had hit post grading.

Hope that helps!


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