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ps...I have made the name known to a few people working on this but just don't want to say publicly quite yet. |
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I’m guessing it’s Battlefield....
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This fiasco will set everything on its ear for a long time, especially now that we know tried, true and trusted authenticators/TPA's made some serious errors! My only signed (non factory) card that I purchased here sometime ago. I was very happy to receive it and I almost jumped in with collecting signed cards when I heard they were getting hot. Glad now I didn't have the funds to support that! |
Charles, Charley, and Charlie all on one card, that's pretty good.
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Too bad we can't access SGC's old cert lookup tool, because that would help us find other candidates subbed at the same time. Or to look for gaps in how many in the submission failed authentication at the time.
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Wouldn't it draw the suspicion of auction houses or TPGs if one person kept making submissions of signed T206s, 1933 Goudeys, 1952T etc? Am I missing something? Was the person selling this stuff ungraded and then the buyers were having the cards authenticated by TPGs?
Wouldn't the TPGs see this huge influx of signed cards as a possible indication that something's wrong? |
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I didn't even notice that, Peter. :o |
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But money trumps all else,,,,,, stuff, ethics, integrity, etc. |
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There's still a few living players from the 1952 Topps set. Not nearly as difficult as pre-war cards.
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For all we know, they're comparing newly faked autos with previously faked autos...."yup, that's a match...slab it!" |
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We should start a poll. Closest to guess the time the name is posted without going over wins.
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But what if someone knows the name and fixes this poll :) :). |
My hope is that justice includes a full accounting of the extent of the fraud. I have a feeling it could be 100's of cards.
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It would seem so, but that could happen a few different ways. Like if someone bought a bunch of autos from some random flea market guy and one was actually real. Or they inherited a collection and started sending them in a few at a time. If someone is constantly buying bad stuff and paying me to tell them it's bad I'm not sure I'd want them to stop. I'd probably tell them after a while, but that's in the "I feel bad for them but kinda don't "category. |
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Heads up these cards were bought by the same buyer, not sure if there are known signed copy.
March 8, 2015 https://i.imgur.com/G5ajyuo.jpg August 22, 2015 https://i.imgur.com/WNkw3Bl.jpg August 21, 2015 https://i.imgur.com/ToUbSqB.jpg |
[QUOTE=atx840;1831683]Heads up these cards were bought by the same buyer, not sure if there is a known signed copy.
If there's not, there will be soon!! |
I'd rather play guess the ID
What if his Ebay ID is:
T206Forger Wouldn't that be a kick in the ass! |
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This could end like a bad Scooby Doo episode with a rubber mask being ripped off. |
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Auction houses ask me for opinions and it's always hard stuff where they don't have the answer. I'd like sometimes for them to send me a scan and I get to reply "It says reprint right there at the bottom." |
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The biggest mystery since "Who Shot JR?"
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This thread has gotten 40K views already - my over/under on passing 100K views will be 6PM ET Saturday.
I must be in for about 200 of those views myself by now! |
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JSA just sent out an email advertisement for an auctionhouse. A little tone deaf, huh? All publicity is good publicity?
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45 pages of posts already... and on one, somebody mentioned the experience of getting an autograph at a show, taking it to a TPG booth and it not passing.
It hit me - why the heck don't TPGs that have booths at shows offer a service to witness the auto in person and then slab it there, they could even include "WITNESSED" on the flip? I would guess there would be many people willing to shell out extra $$ for this, and it would certainly be a welcome addition for anybody looking to purchase an autograph. |
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Also, even TTM autos are a gamble. Many of those autographs are not signed by the actual athlete, but by their assistant or spouse. In the 1970s my mom worked with a high profile actress and she signed all of her autographs for her. |
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I'd greatly appreciate any help on the authenticity of the signatures in my signed T 206 collection:
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List updated. |
t206 scandal
I know there have been posts asking us to post specifics to a very serious criminal activity that does affect the entire industry-FORGED VINTAGE COLLECTIBLES, it sucks and should not be tolerated...I believe e bay has been notified and I believe that certain law enforcement have been notified.....I have spoken to a few people that want to be absolutely sure in collecting facts but I believe the T206's signed are part of a much larger operation.
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You kids quiet down in the backseat and let the adults handle this.
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