Net54baseball.com Forums

Net54baseball.com Forums (http://www.net54baseball.com/index.php)
-   Net54baseball Vintage (WWII & Older) Baseball Cards & New Member Introductions (http://www.net54baseball.com/forumdisplay.php?f=2)
-   -   the list (of criminals) is revealed (http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=217245)

bcornell 01-28-2016 11:39 AM

Per Andrew Moore, "The Government only identified a 'victim' for 347 of the 2,463 auctions". It's pretty obvious that the 2000+ auctions that don't list victims actually do have them. I was somewhat sympathetic to Doug Allen's plea not to do 57 months in jail, but I'm over that now.

Another thing to remember (and there's a lot to take in here) is that this list is just for those years where Mastro didn't destroy their records. This list would likely be much, much longer if they had that info.

Bill

Joshchisox08 01-28-2016 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buythatcard (Post 1496757)
Can someone please share the list?

Yeah I'm wondering why this appears to be secretive on this board. :confused:

Exhibitman 01-28-2016 11:40 AM

There are some entries that are clearly instances where Mastro exploited a winner's max bid by running up the total: Peter Spaeth's name shows up as a shill bidder and winner on one entry [August 2007]. Chad Dreier is shown on one as well [see June 2007]. I don't believe either of those guys had anything to do with Mastro's scheme; I do believe both were cheated as a result.

TNP777 01-28-2016 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Joshchisox08 (Post 1496822)
Yeah I'm wondering why this appears to be secretive on this board. :confused:

Post #51 in this thread

http://net54baseball.com/showpost.ph...0&postcount=51

Joshchisox08 01-28-2016 11:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TNP777 (Post 1496824)

Thanks !

paul 01-28-2016 11:44 AM

I naively thought that only the big boys bidding on high value lots got shilled. I got shilled for $200. Sad.

Econteachert205 01-28-2016 11:47 AM

any thoughts as to whether this could contribute to price deflation in the market? There has been widespread false price discovery here. Maybe it's old enough not to matter to prices now.

z28jd 01-28-2016 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichardSimon (Post 1496792)
Who is Hal Lewis???:confused:

Used to be a regular on the board, who had an impressive collection, then sold it all off. If you search his name and his shill bidders name, you'll see they share the same profession in the same town

ullmandds 01-28-2016 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by z28jd (Post 1496831)
Used to be a regular on the board, who had an impressive collection, then sold it all off. If you search his name and his shill bidders name, you'll see they share the same profession in the same town

And...I believe he was a high fallutin lawyer of some sort!

Cat 01-28-2016 11:51 AM

I was shilled once for $379 + vig (amounts seem to be only the hammer price) but apparently I wasn't a "victim."


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:20 AM.