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UKCardGuy 08-17-2024 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ser1979 (Post 2454516)
Excited to add this to my collection of Tiger pennants. It's not in the best shape and needs a little cleaning but overall I'm happy to have it, especially since I've never seen one come up for sale before.

Great pickup that's a pretty rare pennant. I love team photo pennants. Is that photo glued on to the front of the pennant or is it fixed from the back?

Vintagedeputy 08-17-2024 06:56 PM

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I saw this 1955 Dodgers World Series pennant in a live online auction and the sellers kept remarking about how wonderful the condition was on this vintage pennant. I immediately felt like it was a modern fantasy piece. Anyone ever see this before?

Domer05 08-17-2024 08:10 PM

Your instincts are correct. It's by Mitchell and Ness, ca. 2000s.

And, the auctioneer certainly knows better.... :mad:

perezfan 08-17-2024 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 2454865)
Your instincts are correct. It's by Mitchell and Ness, ca. 2000s.

And, the auctioneer certainly knows better.... :mad:

Amazing how many people are "fooled" buy this one. I actually had to contact REA (sometime around 2010) to have this pennant taken down from one of their auctions.

Their consigner had a long-winded story about his father acquiring it at Ebbets Field. Nothing about it looks vintage, so I don't understand why people (who should know better) are continually duped by it.

Vintagedeputy 08-17-2024 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 2454865)
Your instincts are correct. It's by Mitchell and Ness, ca. 2000s.

And, the auctioneer certainly knows better.... :mad:

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 2454872)
Amazing how many people are "fooled" buy this one. I actually had to contact REA (sometime around 2010) to have this pennant taken down from one of their auctions.

Their consigner had a long-winded story about his father acquiring it at Ebbets Field. Nothing about it looks vintage, so I don't understand why people (who should know better) are continually duped by it.

The auction was one of these live Facebook group auctions, and it was a couple that I had never seen before or had never participated in their sales. I was 99% sure it was a modern piece, but since I didn’t have absolute certainty, I didn’t say anything during the sale. I saw it when they first brought it up and then I left the sale for a bit and when I came back, it had been sold already. I believe it sold for about $155.

I actually can’t fault the auctioneers but so much because they try to sell so many different things that they come across that they aren’t well-versed in much of anything. There are often times where I get really good deals on stuff because the seller just isn’t knowledgeable enough about the item that they’re selling. I now know that this is definitely a modern piece, so I’m going to message the seller and hopefully they’ll do the right thing and let the buyer out of their bid.

Edited to add: I just spoke with the seller and told them that it was a modern piece and they thanked me very much and said that they had bought it as a vintage piece and didn’t know so they were going to contact the buyer and cancel the sale.

ooo-ribay 08-17-2024 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2454589)
My favorite Tiger is the Slightly Disapproving Parent Tiger

Spot on description! :p

perezfan 08-17-2024 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy (Post 2454875)
The auction was one of these live Facebook group auctions, and it was a couple that I had never seen before or had never participated in their sales. I was 99% sure it was a modern piece, but since I didn’t have absolute certainty, I didn’t say anything during the sale. I saw it when they first brought it up and then I left the sale for a bit and when I came back, it had been sold already. I believe it sold for about $155.

I actually can’t fault the auctioneers but so much because they try to sell so many different things that they come across that they aren’t well-versed in much of anything. There are often times where I get really good deals on stuff because the seller just isn’t knowledgeable enough about the item that they’re selling. I now know that this is definitely a modern piece, so I’m going to message the seller and hopefully they’ll do the right thing and let the buyer out of their bid.

Edited to add: I just spoke with the seller and told them that it was a modern piece and they thanked me very much and said that they had bought it as a vintage piece and didn’t know so they were going to contact the buyer and cancel the sale.

Nice job! You did the right thing and so did the AH, as the buyer paid about $125 too much.

UKCardGuy 08-18-2024 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy (Post 2454875)
The auction was one of these live Facebook group auctions, and it was a couple that I had never seen before or had never participated in their sales. I was 99% sure it was a modern piece, but since I didn’t have absolute certainty, I didn’t say anything during the sale. I saw it when they first brought it up and then I left the sale for a bit and when I came back, it had been sold already. I believe it sold for about $155.

I actually can’t fault the auctioneers but so much because they try to sell so many different things that they come across that they aren’t well-versed in much of anything. There are often times where I get really good deals on stuff because the seller just isn’t knowledgeable enough about the item that they’re selling. I now know that this is definitely a modern piece, so I’m going to message the seller and hopefully they’ll do the right thing and let the buyer out of their bid.

Edited to add: I just spoke with the seller and told them that it was a modern piece and they thanked me very much and said that they had bought it as a vintage piece and didn’t know so they were going to contact the buyer and cancel the sale.

That's a good result and auctioneer has built some good will for the future. For reference, I believe that Mitchell and Ness had a series of these pennants with the year screen printed on the spine. Here's another example.

thetahat 08-18-2024 09:09 AM

For future reference, I don’t know of any vintage pennants with anything screened onto a stitched-on spine (like the year on these pennants).

thetahat 08-18-2024 02:58 PM

On the subject of Tigers pennants, a heads-up, this one isn’t vintage to 1968. Should be obvious to many of us but this tends to fetch a vintage price, like some of those M&Ns bring discussed …

https://www.ebay.com/itm/33553649052...mis&media=COPY


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