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ooo-ribay 07-30-2024 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2451156)
HUGE thanks to our friend Domer for making these incredible Pacific Coast League pennants available to me. The Venice Tigers date the group (two-thirds of the entire PCL) to 1913-15 and Marc has helped pinpoint to the same era from another non baseball pennant in this style. These are all 35” long.

They are already in their custom-fitted holders and up for display. If anyone somehow comes across either the LA Angels or Sacramento Solons from this series, kindly give me a holler.
So, those are real deal and not Biebesheimer repros? :eek:

ooo-ribay 07-30-2024 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 2451032)
Actually, I believe the pair dates to 1949. (Dodgers didn't win the pennant in '48.)

Interestingly enough, the Dodger companion pennant bears a copyright mark on it: "1949 H. Wohlke." The US Catalogue of Copyright Entries lists this mark as being associated with one Arthur Rand, presumably the artist responsible for the crossed bats and ball artwork. Unclear if the batter was included in the copyright.....

I haven't found much more on this Arthur Rand. "H. Wohlke" was Henry Wohlke, the apparent owner of the copyright. I suspect Henry Wohlke may have owned the company that made these pennants, but I have yet to confirm this.
Your research continues to blow my mind.

thetahat 07-30-2024 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2451173)
So, those are real deal and not Biebesheimer repros? :eek:
They are real and they’re spectacular …

MK 07-30-2024 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2451175)
they are real and they’re spectacular …
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

UKCardGuy 07-30-2024 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Fballguy (Post 2451047)
Well...I think this pretty much confirms it. :D
Great info Kyle. Is it possible that Henry Wohlke worked for one of the pennant companies rather than having his own company?

ooo-ribay 07-30-2024 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2451175)
They are real and they’re spectacular …
Wow! I didn’t know Kyle was sitting on such a hoard.

Domer05 07-30-2024 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by UKCardGuy (Post 2451200)
Great info Kyle. Is it possible that Henry Wohlke worked for one of the pennant companies rather than having his own company?
Anything's possible. All we know is Henry Wohlke "claimed" (owned) the copyright. And, he's not credited as the artist.

He could have been the attorney that filed the copyright, on behalf of someone else? Most likely, he was some novelty operator that sold pennants in the New York City area.

What's really odd is that the copyright only appears on the Brooklyn pennant--and not the Yankees companion piece from the same '49 world series. Why?
It's the very same artwork!

perezfan 07-31-2024 11:16 AM
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They are real and they’re spectacular …
And just like the PCL Pennants, they measure up at 35" :rolleyes:

scooter729 07-31-2024 11:54 AM
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I was happy to add this circa 1910 oversized Red Sox pennant recently - I have a few Red Sox pennants from the same timeframe, but this one is a new favorite! Fits in great with some panoramics and other Red Sox items from that era!

thetahat 07-31-2024 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 2451374)
And just like the PCL Pennants, they measure up at 35" :rolleyes:
Missing tassels though …


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