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perezfan 01-11-2017 12:00 PM

LOVE (and wish I had) that Dodgers/Giants pennant from 1958. What a beauty!

I can certainly see why that's rare, but others remain a mystery. As for the White 1962 Giants Champs Pennant with the rivets.... the 1961 Reds version is one of the most plentiful on Ebay. I think there were 7 or 8 nice ones, last time I looked. So did they just make far fewer the following year (in '62?)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-1961...wAAOSwMtxXv2Hl

There are (maybe) one of these Giants versions for every 100 Reds. :confused:

vintagebaseballcardguy 01-11-2017 12:53 PM

The Reds and Giants pennants are attractive. I can see why you like them. I will be looking for St. Louis Cardinals and San Diego Chargers when I start my pennant purchases. When it comes to pennants from say the '40s to the '60s, how picky are you guys regarding condition? Do you avoid pinholes, or are they acceptable? I realize large holes, rips, missing tips should be avoided when possible, but how fine do you generally get?

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mjkm90 01-11-2017 01:17 PM

Pin holes are acceptable and almost unavoidable in pennant collecting. As long as the holes aren't elongated or so numerous at the tip that it has practically disintegrated they are ok. There are pennants without them, but I would not pass up an otherwise nice pennant due to some small pin holes. Stains (large or obvious) and trimmed pennants are my personal no-no's with regard to pennant purchases.

ooo-ribay 01-11-2017 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 1619514)
LOVE (and wish I had) that Dodgers/Giants pennant from 1958. What a beauty!

I don't understand why it's as rare as it it....there were nearly 30,000 excited people at that game who, presumably, knew they were attending a historic event and who, you would think, would want to pick up a souvenir (assuming the pennant was sold at Seals Stadium).

The grey pennant is not particularly attractive and is a variation of the one pictured below but I've seen it ONCE. :confused:

vintagebaseballcardguy 01-11-2017 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mjkm90 (Post 1619537)
Pin holes are acceptable and almost unavoidable in pennant collecting. As long as the holes aren't elongated or so numerous at the tip that it has practically disintegrated they are ok. There are pennants without them, but I would not pass up an otherwise nice pennant due to some small pin holes. Stains (large or obvious) and trimmed pennants are my personal no-no's with regard to pennant purchases.

Awesome! Thanks very much for the feedback. That helps to know.

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perezfan 01-11-2017 08:18 PM

I feel about the same as Mike regarding condition. If the pinhole has extended (torn) all the way to the pennant's border, thus causing a slit, I am out.

The other deal-killer for me is ink writing on the pennant. I can't tell you how many more I would've bought, if not for some ink notation or former owners name written on the front. My eye is immediately drawn to that, rather than to the pennant itself.

I can forgive writing on the back side, and pinholes are never an issue.... your searches would become nearly impossible if you can't look past those! :o

Have fun, and best of luck!

aelefson 01-11-2017 08:49 PM

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This thread is always great to look through! I bought these four at an antique show in NH for a pretty good deal. They are in incredible condition and I wish they were full sized ones.

Alan

Fballguy 01-12-2017 12:12 PM

Pin holes don't bother me. Missing tassels are fine by me. The tip is key for me. Missing tip is most likely a deal killer. Blunt/ripped tips annoy me too but depending on the scarcity of the pennant and degree of damage may be overlooked.

For very rare pennants I can overlook minor staining. Writing not so much.

thetahat 01-13-2017 01:19 PM

I prefer them as pristine as possible, purely for the potential resale value. At some point, even if it a willed donation after I take a dirt nap, I want them to be worth something. But since I am primarily into the decorative nature of the pennants, I forgive a few flaws. Tassels? Bottom pair missing ... okay. Top pair ... no shot. Just looks funny IMO. Even a blunted tip doesn't kill me. Stains and fading do.

Funny thing about the pennant tips, though ... absolutely convinced that sometimes, some of the 50s and 60s pennants where produced with a tip that was slightly squared. I have a '55 Dodger "crown" pennant that is a full 30" and barely fits in the holder, yet the tip is a little squared off. I'm certain they made it as such - not so much by design (i.e. deliberately), only that it came out of the factory that way.

Which reminds me of someone currently selling a '59 White Sox picture "pennant" in eBay. That's how it is described. One tiny flaw, though ... it is missing the pennant! (Go look.)

perezfan 01-13-2017 03:23 PM

Yes, I agree....

Many of the vintage pennants were made with a blunt tip. I still have a few from childhood that are untouched, and know that they were made that way.

The deal-killer for me is when the pennant was ripped off the wall, and the tip remained under the thumb tack. The tell-tale sign is a concave end and about an inch missing from the tip. You actually see this a lot... I guess when the kids moved out, their Moms had little regard for those pennants left behind. :(


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