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Originally Posted by Fballguy (Post 1616361)

Also...When did the transition occur from soft felt to hard "felt"? I thought mid-60's seemed about right.

That one is new. The stiff style started in the late 60's, but that one is much thinner and made of all synthetic material. They started with a stiffer felt, then went to a thicker synthetic, then went to a thinner synthetic in the mid 70's. It's pretty much stayed that style until recently when they started printing again on the softer thicker synthetic (i.e.: Mitchell and Ness style).

Still weird that there aren't more of them floating around. I can't even get it to come up in a google search. Even if I include "1964" and or "reproduction" Others do come up...but not this one.

Don't doubt that it's modern...just surprised, like most modern reproductions, that there aren't a lot of them out there.

Great discussion! Awesome football pennants and Rob, those are fantastic NY and SF Giants pennants. Cool design. The SF version is super rare ...

I own and manage a team in a collegiate summer league, we are the South Jersey Giants, and our logo is a close variation of it ...

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Originally Posted by Showdawg (Post 1616357)

Love to add this one to my collection too....anybody seen one?

<a href="http://s193.photobucket.com/user/whynow357/media/jim%20brown121.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z157/whynow357/jim%20brown121.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo jim brown121.jpg"/></a>

I sold a pennant just like this on eBay 3 or so months ago. It was in similar condition to this one.

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Originally Posted by dwr11 (Post 1616685)

I sold a pennant just like this on eBay 3 or so months ago. It was in similar condition to this one.

This is the picture of that pennant that sold on eBay a few months back...I was going to make an offer, then t was gone....:o

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Originally Posted by dwr11 (Post 1616685)

I sold a pennant just like this on eBay 3 or so months ago. It was in similar condition to this one.

I see Jim Brown, Bobby Mitchell, Pat Summerall, Norm Snead, Andy Robustelli, Abe Woodson, Timmy Brown, Maxie Baughan, Norm Van Brocklin, Pete Retzlaff, Tommy Mason, Forrest Gregg...

I think. :)

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Originally Posted by Showdawg (Post 1616278)

You got this one buddy?

<a href="http://s193.photobucket.com/user/whynow357/media/steeeeelers.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z157/whynow357/steeeeelers.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo steeeeelers.jpg"/></a>

Wow! wonder how many of these survived since they only played for one season.

The example pictured above is definitely/significantly altered.

Mine is pictured below...

I will probably be consigning this pennant to REA for their Spring Auction (along with quite a few others). Condition is EXMT+ with no notable flaws.

If anyone is interested in making an offer, please reach out to me via email or PM. I will not be listing it on the BST. So (in the event it doesn't sell here) please be sure to look for it in the next REA.

Thanks!
Mark

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Originally Posted by 71buc (Post 1615581)

I would have posted this much earlier but it took awhile for to find this in my piles of Pirate crap. Nonetheless, this is a 1971 World Series Champion Pirates pennant. I would assume it would have been issued in late in 1971 or 1972. Based on the use of the same font on the word Pittsburgh and the vintage Pirate image it was likely produced by the same company as your Steeler pennants during a similar time frame. I hope this helps.

Interesting topic...

Here is what I believe to be the original version of that particular Pirates Pennant. The felt is very soft, and the Pirate is color-shaded. Very rare version of an otherwise somewhat common pennant. This is actually the only color-shaded version I've seen....

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 1616086)

Remember the old ads in TV Guide that asked you to sketch and submit a cartoon drawing? The "winner" would get discounted art lessons or something. Well I think that's how the Ad Flag Pennant Company hired their artists. I have some Ad Flags in my collection and they are universally just ugly-a** pennants. Look at this Brooklyn Dodgers pennant. I have to have it, I am a collector and it is Brooklyn after all. But the guy looks less like a bum and more like a sex offender. And why the huge claw-like hand? This Phillies "quaker" pennant started giving me the creeps so I took it down, I might have to bury it in the backyard before it gives me bad dreams. And what is he stepping on ... is that a base or a box of Tastykakes?

On top of the bad art, they were often poorly cut (crooked, as with scissors) and the old-style designs have confused many collectors, as evident by this discussion ... I'm guessing these weren't sold in the ballparks but instead in the parking lots or back alleys.

Here's one that defies logic. It is unquestionably vintage and "of the era"...

The font saying "Brooklyn" and "Dodgers" is identical to Ad Flag's "Sex Offender" Bum. Same for the font saying "Da Bums". But instead of showing the creepy sex offender mascot, it has a magnificent depiction of the Willard Mullin Bum inside of Ebbets Field.

I always considered these Stadium versions to be of a higher caliber, in terms of their graphics and quality. So how could this "hybrid" pennant even exist? :confused: