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thetahat 03-04-2024 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ser1979 (Post 2417185)
Need some help from the group on value. I have the chance to buy this pennant and want to make sure I'm not overpaying due to my excitement. As someone who collects Tiger pennants I know how rare this pennant is but just need a reality check before I google " how to sell a vital organ", lol.

“Value” really is a tough call for pennants that don’t often surface. Both supply and demand is low. There really isn’t an established record of sales in order get an accurate estimate. Best you can do is make an educated guess based on similar pennants and taking into account the teams and how rabid their collectors are.

If this was in a pure eBay auction? I’d say $1200-1500. However it is worth noting that a couple years ago this sold for about $4400 in a Clean Sweep auction. But again, if that was due to two bidders bashing each other over the head, then a second pennant that surfaces would likely sell for a lot less.

ooo-ribay 03-04-2024 08:47 AM

I hope you get it, Stephen (and keep your vital organs)!

Hankphenom 03-04-2024 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ser1979 (Post 2417185)
Need some help from the group on value. I have the chance to buy this pennant and want to make sure I'm not overpaying due to my excitement. As someone who collects Tiger pennants I know how rare this pennant is but just need a reality check before I google " how to sell a vital organ", lol.

Not to argue semantics, but the only way you can overpay for something is if you can find a similar one cheaper. In this case, that would be virtually impossible. Even if it costs you an arm and a leg, you can't go wrong with this one.

Vintagedeputy 03-04-2024 12:06 PM

I agree with Hank. That’s the one thing that people tend to forget (and I’m guilty too) about collectibles - There is no absolute when it comes to value. Value is a magical number decided upon between a seller and a buyer. Every seller and every buyer may come up with different numbers from sale to sale to sale, depending on any number of factors.

As a seller I have to decide what is my “let it go” price and a buyer has to decide what is their “buy price”. If we do not agree on a number hopefully we can find somewhere in between.

Here’s an example - Would I sell my car for a $1.00? No. Now, would I sell my car for $1 million? Yes. Now I have a value range. Would I sell for $500,000? For $100,000? Would I sell for $20,000?

People throw around comps and eBay sold prices and such, but these are numbers decided upon by other people for their items based on their comfort level in buying and selling. That’s not me.

To me it’s no different than when people ask me why would I send a $5 card in for grading? Who says it’s a $5 card? What does it matter to anyone else what my card is worth or what I choose to do with it?

Duluth Eskimo 03-04-2024 09:27 PM

I would agree on $1500 is fair, but if I had this for sale I think I would price it higher. It is a very tough pennant, it’s dated, and it’s very visually appealing. I don’t think 2-2500 is out of line. You also have to remember that the price on tough items 5 years ago has doubled in my opinion. The tough items that came to market over the last 20 years are completely gone now. If you really want it, and you can pick it up in this range, I say go for it.

ooo-ribay 03-04-2024 09:39 PM

I suspect it may even be better than the picture shows. It kind of looks like it’s in a soft sleeve inside of a rigid holder. Maybe not, but that would be an added bonus.

thetahat 03-06-2024 05:08 PM

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To follow up on a recent discussion about picture pennants, ASCO seemed to make a 1969 version with and without the pic insert. I have seen the Mets and Orioles with and without, the Twins only without, and have never seen a Braves and don’t think it exists. (Mark?)

The team pic is glued to the back, with a window cut out for it, just like the Trenches.

UKCardGuy 03-06-2024 05:18 PM

Those are beauties Greg.

Duluth Eskimo 03-06-2024 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2417853)
To follow up on a recent discussion about picture pennants, ASCO seemed to make a 1969 version with and without the pic insert. I have seen the Mets and Orioles with and without, the Twins only without, and have never seen a Braves and don’t think it exists. (Mark?)

The team pic is glued to the back, with a window cut out for it, just like the Trenches.

The Twins was only made without a photo. The dated version you have for the Twins is a difficult pennant, especially in good condition because of the fabric. There was only one game at Metropolitan Stadium and the Twins lost and the series was over. All of the unsold stock of Twins pennants, they snipped the 1969 off and sold them in 1970. That is why you oftentimes see the snipped one more often. The snipped ones were common for a while as there was a find, but they have all pretty much dried up and been absorbed in to collections.

I don't believe there was ever a Braves version made either with or without the photo. Atlanta was opposite end of the country from Minnesota and the Braves lost three straight and were gone.

ooo-ribay 03-07-2024 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo (Post 2417905)
The Twins was only made without a photo. The dated version you have for the Twins is a difficult pennant, especially in good condition because of the fabric. There was only one game at Metropolitan Stadium and the Twins lost and the series was over. All of the unsold stock of Twins pennants, they snipped the 1969 off and sold them in 1970. That is why you oftentimes see the snipped one more often. The snipped ones were common for a while as there was a find, but they have all pretty much dried up and been absorbed in to collections.

I don't believe there was ever a Braves version made either with or without the photo. Atlanta was opposite end of the country from Minnesota and the Braves lost three straight and were gone.

So, the ‘70 Twins have a square tip? Actually no tip? :eek: I’d love to see a picture.

Even though those pennants are kind of basic and not all that old, I like ‘em. They have a unique look (and I love the groovy ‘69 font).


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