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Buffalo Mike 01-07-2024 09:58 AM

“1918” Boston Red Sox Pennant
 
Thank you, Rob, Greg, and Mark. I’ve been exchanging emails with Greg and will be preparing the formal dispute on behalf of my friend. I did email the seller and stated our position, citing your specific posts in the thread. He replied last night and was cordial, saying that he read the posts, but he still believes the pennant is authentic and a possible “one of a kind” from 1918.

I will post updates re the status of the dispute, and thank you all again for your time, information, and support.

(Buffalo) Mike in San Diego

bocca001 01-07-2024 11:50 AM

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A few weeks ago, someone listed a bunch of cloth Trench football and baseball pennants on ebay that had clearly been in storage for many years. No duplicates, but many different teams. Only a few were rare in terms how often they come for sale, but I think they were rare in terms of quality. I ended up winning the Giants and 49ers. If you ever wondered what these looked like brand new (minus a need for some ironing), here you go.

ooo-ribay 01-07-2024 01:45 PM

^^^^ Beauties! 👍

Duluth Eskimo 01-09-2024 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffalo Mike (Post 2402795)
Thank you, Rob, Greg, and Mark. I’ve been exchanging emails with Greg and will be preparing the formal dispute on behalf of my friend. I did email the seller and stated our position, citing your specific posts in the thread. He replied last night and was cordial, saying that he read the posts, but he still believes the pennant is authentic and a possible “one of a kind” from 1918.

I will post updates re the status of the dispute, and thank you all again for your time, information, and support.

(Buffalo) Mike in San Diego

This person is trying to save the extreme profit they made or the poor decision they made to buy this from someone else. The “1918” pennant in question has all the telltale signs of a repro that others have mentioned. I have personally owned and sold at least 4 different of these original pennants. Your 1918 repro has none of the definition of the originals. Look at the font and the thickness and detail of the “ribbon” around the circle of text. In the genuine pennants they have more detail and you can see some very small “lines” in the screen printing meant to make the edge appear to be waiving in the wind. The “1918” pennant is 100% fake and I’m sorry if the seller is left holding the bag. They should have done better research. Dispute the sale and contact your credit card company if they used one. It’s 100% fake.

Domer05 01-11-2024 09:17 PM

Annin & Co. of NY
 
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Back to this "one of a kind" 1918 Red Sox pennant....

I happen to know that the genuine version of this flag (sans "1918," that is) was manufactured by Annin & Co. of NY (a.k.a., A & Co. of NY). To my knowledge, it was the only professional baseball pennant ever made by the legendary pennant maker in the 20th century.

I know this because I own the 1923 edition of Annin's sales catalogue. It features a page identical to the one below....

Note that the Red Sox pennant illustrated appears exactly the same as the others previously identified on this thread as genuine.

It looks nothing like the M&N repro; and it looks nothing like this "1918" job some unscrupulous pennant maker tried to pass off as being 100+ years old. If the design had been updated between 1916 and 1918, you would expect Annin to showcase the more contemporary variant by 1923, when this catalogue was published.

Case closed: it's fake.

Vintagedeputy 01-12-2024 03:34 PM

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Lost in the mail for a month, this beautiful Yankees pennant finally arrived. I know it’s not a “mini”, so what do we call this size? I’m thinking that it’s probably a 1940’s or 1950’s era pennant.

erikc21 01-12-2024 06:31 PM

Blizzard conditions here in Nebraska [emoji3063] When your stuck inside it’s fun to enjoy your hobby! Figured I’d send some pickups over the last handful of months.

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UKCardGuy 01-12-2024 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 2404053)
Back to this "one of a kind" 1918 Red Sox pennant....

I happen to know that the genuine version of this flag (sans "1918," that is) was manufactured by Annin & Co. of NY (a.k.a., A & Co. of NY). To my knowledge, it was the only professional baseball pennant ever made by the legendary pennant maker in the 20th century.

I know this because I own the 1923 edition of Annin's sales catalogue. It features a page identical to the one below....

Note that the Red Sox pennant illustrated appears exactly the same as the others previously identified on this thread as genuine.

It looks nothing like the M&N repro; and it looks nothing like this "1918" job some unscrupulous pennant maker tried to pass off as being 100+ years old. If the design had been updated between 1916 and 1918, you would expect Annin to showcase the more contemporary variant by 1923, when this catalogue was published.

Case closed: it's fake.

Very conclusive Kyle.

With regards this statement "it was the only professional baseball pennant ever made by the legendary pennant maker in the 20th century."

I recall that this baseball HOF pennant from 1939 was made by Annin too???

Domer05 01-12-2024 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by UKCardGuy (Post 2404272)
Very conclusive Kyle.

With regards this statement "it was the only professional baseball pennant ever made by the legendary pennant maker in the 20th century."

I recall that this baseball HOF pennant from 1939 was made by Annin too???

You're absolutely correct. Annin made that particular Cooperstown pennant--has this label on the reverse.

But other than that Sox pennant, I know of no other pennant by them for a specific MLB team.

perezfan 01-12-2024 09:56 PM

Awesome pickups Erik! Some super rare ones.... congrats!


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