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pologrounds 01-01-2024 07:38 PM

1971 Pittsburgh Pirates World Series Banner
 
Has anyone seen any 1971 Pittsburgh Pirates World Series banners simlar to 1971Pittsburgh Pirates National Champs banner that sold in 2018? Please share photos. Thank yoy.

brownscollector78 01-01-2024 10:09 PM

Mini Pennant Protection
 
A bit off topic but still related to Pennants...

Are there toploaders for mini pennants?
Or do you guys cut the full size ones to size?

I have a few minis that I want to display with toploader and Im trying to figure out what to do...

bocca001 01-01-2024 10:37 PM

I cut down larger pennant toploaders/sleeves for the mini pennants I have on display. Always feels like a bit if a waste, but it works.

thetahat 01-02-2024 08:36 AM

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So this recent sale on eBay is interesting. Has Keezer stamp on back. So it seems they were making these until at least 1972. These “late term” Keezers are identifiable by a simpler logo and the font/script. An Astros “astronaut” also sold which was pretty cool.

These late-term Keezers are identifiable from their earlier ones by the simpler logo and the same font/script.

Also interesting is that - to my knowledge - the trademarked Trench and ASCO Rangers pennants are thick, and very stiff, cardboard-like felt. It appears here that Keezer was still roughly the same quality as always.

(This led me to pull up Kyle’s incredible history of Keezer … very informative.)

ooo-ribay 01-02-2024 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2401462)
So this recent sale on eBay is interesting. Has Keezer stamp on back. So it seems they were making these until at least 1972. These “late term” Keezers are identifiable by a simpler logo and the font/script. An Astros “astronaut” also sold which was pretty cool.

These late-term Keezers are identifiable from their earlier ones by the simpler logo and the same font/script.

Also interesting is that - to my knowledge - the trademarked Trench and ASCO Rangers pennants are thick, and very stiff, cardboard-like felt. It appears here that Keezer was still roughly the same quality as always.

(This led me to pull up Kyle’s incredible history of Keezer … very informative.)

That a great pennant....but I gotta say, the Keezer art department got a little lazy.

UKCardGuy 01-02-2024 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2401462)
So this recent sale on eBay is interesting. Has Keezer stamp on back. So it seems they were making these until at least 1972. These “late term” Keezers are identifiable by a simpler logo and the font/script. An Astros “astronaut” also sold which was pretty cool.

These late-term Keezers are identifiable from their earlier ones by the simpler logo and the same font/script.

Also interesting is that - to my knowledge - the trademarked Trench and ASCO Rangers pennants are thick, and very stiff, cardboard-like felt. It appears here that Keezer was still roughly the same quality as always.

(This led me to pull up Kyle’s incredible history of Keezer … very informative.)

That's a cool pennant. The sellers description was *interesting*...saying the pennant was from the 50s. Anyone want to tell them the history of the Rangers? :)

Buffalo Mike 01-05-2024 07:21 PM

"1918" Boston Red Sox Pennant
 
Greetings, All. I'm good friends with the collector who purchased the questionable Red Sox pennant on eBay last week. After reading the many posts on the pennant I called my friend to inform him of the discussion. Needless to say, he's now very concerned about the pennant. I told him I would post this to ask if any of you experts would be willing to speak with him. He understands that he would need to contact the eBay seller first and then contact eBay if he and the seller are unable to resolve the dispute. If you're willing to speak with him, please DM me and I will pass along your contact info. Thank you in advance, as he's a great guy who deserves our help.

Mike

ooo-ribay 01-05-2024 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Buffalo Mike (Post 2402433)
Greetings, All. I'm good friends with the collector who purchased the questionable Red Sox pennant on eBay last week. After reading the many posts on the pennant I called my friend to inform him of the discussion. Needless to say, he's now very concerned about the pennant. I told him I would post this to ask if any of you experts would be willing to speak with him. He understands that he would need to contact the eBay seller first and then contact eBay if he and the seller are unable to resolve the dispute. If you're willing to speak with him, please DM me and I will pass along your contact info. Thank you in advance, as he's a great guy who deserves our help.

Mike

I’m not an expert, but I think posts 8221 and 8222 pretty conclusively show your friend was duped into a Mitchell and Ness reproduction (tassels and bases). I think (hope) ebay will resolve this.

thetahat 01-06-2024 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Buffalo Mike (Post 2402433)
Greetings, All. I'm good friends with the collector who purchased the questionable Red Sox pennant on eBay last week. After reading the many posts on the pennant I called my friend to inform him of the discussion. Needless to say, he's now very concerned about the pennant. I told him I would post this to ask if any of you experts would be willing to speak with him. He understands that he would need to contact the eBay seller first and then contact eBay if he and the seller are unable to resolve the dispute. If you're willing to speak with him, please DM me and I will pass along your contact info. Thank you in advance, as he's a great guy who deserves our help.

Mike

Mike, check your DM. Definitely a repro.

perezfan 01-06-2024 01:08 PM

I would be willing to talk with him, but everything I would tell him is pretty much articulated already in my prior posts. Not much to add, really...

Spine: Too wide
Tassels: Too close together
Material: Wrong felt
Overall size: Too small- should be oversized
Graphics: Wrong, with the design of the Bases being the biggest tip-off
Dated 1918: No previous exemplars have a date added

My best advice would be to file for a return immediately. Don't let any more time pass, and use the informative posts here as your argument against it's authenticity. eBay normally supports the Buyer, so they can force the issue even if the seller pushes back. Start the return process today!


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