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Mark70Z 02-01-2020 03:17 AM

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Day 32 (February 1, 2020 – 032)

Brooks Robinson had several nicknames and one of those was “The Human Vacuum Cleaner”. I’ve said before I try to keep the collecting within Brooks’ playing days, but sometimes I see a shiny card in which I like the look and pick it up. The following cards were from the 2009 Topps Baseball Series 2, Legends of the Game, that had a commemorative letter patch that spelled out…well you may have guessed it, “VACUUM CLEANER”. Man, Topps sometimes kills me, and you figure they’d have the cards numbered /50 (which means the A, U and E /100), but of course I had to try to get ALL the letters to spell it out (SUCKER…).

2009 Topps Legends of the Game


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BaltOrioles 02-01-2020 07:56 AM

1977 Sportscaster Orioles
 
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Originally Posted by Mark70Z (Post 1951835)
Alan,

So at least there's a Lausanne then a Lausanne: A and there's a Geneva: B . Is that it or are there more possibilities?

Mark,

The short answer is yes, there are probably more variations of the Brooks Robinson card. After doing some research, here are the Orioles cards I can confirm. All of these say "Printed in Italy" and are the US versions.

Brooks Robinson #16-07 - 1977 Lausanne, 1977 Lausanne A, 1979 Geneva B

Earl Weaver (Lingo II) #18-16 - 1978 Lausanne

Jim Palmer #26-15 - 1978 Lausanne, 1979 Geneva A, 1979 Geneva B, 1979 Geneva C

Memorial Stadium #58-12 - 1979 Lausanne

Frank Robinson #59-20 - 1979 Lausanne, 1979 Geneva A

Mike Flanagan #102-01 - 1979 Geneva, 1979 Geneva A

Here's the long answer...
These are some of my thoughts, but without any concrete facts to back them up. My guess is that as new subscribers came on, after the first printings of earlier cards, they were given the opportunity to purchase earlier sets (causing several print runs A, B, C). This would explain the Brooks Robinson with 1977 & 1979 dating, as well as the fact that the earlier cards seem to have more variations. It also looks like the early print runs are Lausanne and at some point in 1979 were switched to Geneva.

Supposedly, there were also cards issued for distribution in England and perhaps other countries. Also, "Printed in Japan" cards.

Hope this helps. I'll update as I come across any additional info. Anyone with corrections/additions feel free to reply.


Here are some excerpts taken from an earlier Net54 thread, from 2014-2015, that I based some of my thoughts on.

It's been a really fun set to work on but I fear that going any further in terms of collecting variations may be difficult. Part of the problem with this set is that because there is so little info out there regarding the variations available even the most detail oriented collectors may not realize that they have a particular version or variation of a card, meaning that happens to be a feature which is neglected when selling and trading. Just hop onto ebay for some evidence of this--relatively few listings identify simple information such as the series and card number, let alone if they are a 'A, B, C' or 'Japan, Lausanne, Geneva' variation or if the card in the listing is from the US or UK set. Heck, some of the listings aren't even using the term 'Sportscaster', complicating matters even further.

I don't have a complete set yet, but I've been tracking variations for each series as a long-term project. I've found a lot so far in the different printings - A, B, C, blank.

As you might guess, the higher numbered series tend to be tougher to find...series 1-55 are the most readily available but also, in my experience, seem to be the series with the greatest number of variations. Series 80 and above tend to be the toughest but also appear to have the fewest number of variations.

BaltOrioles 02-01-2020 08:09 AM

1954 Dixie Lids
 
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For years, Dixie Cup ice cream pictured movie stars, sports stars and other subjects on their lids. The only Oriole was Clint Courtney in 1954. The lids can be found with the tab on the right or left. The real fun in collecting them is the wide variety of backs that can be found. I have 16 different backs and try and pick up new ones if the price is right. I sure there are dozens of backs issued that I've never seen. I've even seen lids from Canada.

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quitcrab 02-01-2020 08:56 AM

Wow that’s some collection of Dixie lids !
Allan I PM you the list off Bob Lefffler players. Did you get it ? Sometimes my PM don’t go through. Scott

OriolesHOF 02-01-2020 09:35 AM

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Hal,

Any chance for a closeup on the crystal bowl?

Here you go Mark.

"Jack Dunn Memorial Service Award, To Brooks Robinson, Tops in Sports Banquet, January 12th, 1990."

OriolesHOF 02-01-2020 09:54 AM

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Two of your favorites Mark. I have about 40 of these snappers from the '70 World Series. The first Brooks indicates "World Series Oct. 1969."

Mark70Z 02-01-2020 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BaltOrioles (Post 1951913)
For years, Dixie Cup ice cream pictured movie stars, sports stars and other subjects on their lids. The only Oriole was Clint Courtney in 1954. The lids can be found with the tab on the right or left. The real fun in collecting them is the wide variety of backs that can be found. I have 16 different backs and try and pick up new ones if the price is right. I sure there are dozens of backs issued that I've never seen. I've even seen lids from Canada.

Alan,

Thanks for the information on Sportscasters. I know I have several of these tucked away so I’ll have to check the back to see what I have currently. At least I know there are definitely some variations and can at least be aware they are out there.

Now the Dixie Cup Lids sounds like a fun project. Huh, only one Oriole though. How many player lids are there in the set or grouping? Looks like the variations could be quite high.

sflayank 02-01-2020 10:20 AM

Dixies
 
Nice dixies
But you dont have the different sizes

roarfrom34 02-01-2020 10:30 AM

I noted yesterday that it was Jackie Robinson's birthday & it reminded me that I have this March 1955 AP Wirephoto from Spring Training at Vero Beach with Les Moss running up the line with Jackie Robinson taking the throw at first base.

Obviously, it's hard to find things that connect both Jackie and the Orioles directly.

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quitcrab 02-01-2020 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by BaltOrioles (Post 1951470)
Today, I offer up some drawings I know a little about, but would be interested if those from the Baltimore area know more about them.

I have five drawings of Orioles players from 1978-79 done by artist Bob Leffler. I know there are more out there, but don't have any kind of checklist. In one of the Orioles 1978 programs is an ad for his art. It looks like the ad is for original color drawings. Mine are not original drawings, but look to be produced for resale. They are B&W, dated and on regular 8 1/2" x 11" paper.

Anyone with more info, a checklist or have any for sale, let me know.

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Here are the five I have - Al Bumbry, Rich Dauer, Mike Flanagan, Brooks Robinson and Ken Singleton

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Here are the ones I have :
Bumbry 78, Smith 78, Crowley 79, D. Martinez 78, Palmer 78, Belanger 79, T.Matinez 79, Singleton 78, Stanhouse 79, Kelly 79, DeCince 79, Skaggs 79, Murray 79, Dempsey 79, McGregor 78, F Robinson 78, May 79, Stewart 79, Garcia 79, B Robinson 78, Lowenstein 79, Weaver 79, Renicke 79, Ayala 79, Flanagan 78, Stoddard 79, Dauer 79, Stone 79, and 2 more from 79 I am unsure of ... maybe Harlow ? and a pitcher

BaltOrioles 02-01-2020 11:02 AM

1954 Dixie Lids
 
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Originally Posted by Mark70Z (Post 1951974)
Alan,

Now the Dixie Cup Lids sounds like a fun project. Huh, only one Oriole though. How many player lids are there in the set or grouping? Looks like the variations could be quite high.

Mark,

I believe there are 18 baseball players in the 1954 set as well as baseball players from the 1952-1953 sets. They came in three sizes, approx 2 1/4", 2 3/4" and 3 1/4".

BaltOrioles 02-01-2020 11:02 AM

1954 Dixie Lids
 
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Originally Posted by sflayank (Post 1951975)
Nice dixies
But you dont have the different sizes

Thanks Larry. Yes, all of mine are approx 2 3/4". I wouldn't say I actively pursue them. The mid size lids are the ones I usually come across and just haven't picked up any other sizes yet.

Mark70Z 02-01-2020 12:01 PM

Snapshots
 
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Originally Posted by OriolesHOF (Post 1951963)
Two of your favorites Mark. I have about 40 of these snappers from the '70 World Series. The first Brooks indicates "World Series Oct. 1969."

First, thanks for posting a closeup of the Tops in Sports award. That is such a nice piece.

I LOVE ALL OF THE SNAPSHOTS YOU POSTED. I think it’s neat looking that the person taking the pics got part of the dugout top. Of course you only posted four; so, we’ll wait on the other thirty-six :D The one with LeRoy Neiman pictured with Bench has to be my favorite even though Brooks isn’t pictured. Think I mentioned it before, but Bench was my favorite non-Oriole.

mrmopar 02-01-2020 12:43 PM

There is a vast variety of Sportcaster cards issued in a variety of different countries. I think there is a good thread on one of the boards.
I have 4-5 Garvey variations I believe. Garvey also is on 2 of the cards, so double the fun in finding obscure variations. Don't forget the unopened packs too!

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Originally Posted by Mark70Z (Post 1951835)
Alan,

So at least there's a Lausanne then a Lausanne: A and there's a Geneva: B . Is that it or are there more possibilities?


orioles70 02-01-2020 02:28 PM

Glad others like the Sportscaster set...it's one of my favorites...I was an original subscriber but stopped at some point while in college...I completed the set many years ago (all 2,184 cards) and also have all the booklets and digests...still have my original green filing tray and the coin...hard to tell how many variations there are...I have quite a few..the cards make nice autograph material...I think I have over 50 signed and over half of them are baseball...almost all were obtained in person at shows...a few were mailed out in the 80's...here are some of my signed ones I have on displayhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...a605320d72.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...bd68cb1a36.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...b5a1147664.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...06ad2fbfa8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...0bcc54efd3.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...723ac3065c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...49b5b2e023.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...0d5c034b17.jpg

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Mark70Z 02-01-2020 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by roarfrom34 (Post 1951978)
I noted yesterday that it was Jackie Robinson's birthday & it reminded me that I have this March 1955 AP Wirephoto from Spring Training at Vero Beach with Les Moss running up the line with Jackie Robinson taking the throw at first base.

Obviously, it's hard to find things that connect both Jackie and the Orioles directly.

If you’d like to commemorate something non-Oriole go for it... Think the majority here like baseball, football, basketball, hockey, etc. :D

Mark70Z 02-01-2020 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by orioles70 (Post 1952027)
Glad others like the Sportscaster set...it's one of my favorites...I was an original subscriber but stopped at some point while in college...I completed the set many years ago (all 2,184 cards) and also have all the booklets and digests...still have my original green filing tray and the coin...hard to tell how many variations there are...I have quite a few..the cards make nice autograph material...I think I have over 50 signed and over half of them are baseball...almost all were obtained in person at shows...a few were mailed out in the 80's...here are some of my signed ones I have on display

John,

The Sportscaster cards look GREAT signed...

BaltOrioles 02-01-2020 07:30 PM

1977-79 Sportscaster cards
 
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Originally Posted by orioles70 (Post 1952027)
Glad others like the Sportscaster set...it's one of my favorites...I was an original subscriber but stopped at some point while in college...I completed the set many years ago (all 2,184 cards) and also have all the booklets and digests...still have my original green filing tray and the coin...hard to tell how many variations there are...I have quite a few..the cards make nice autograph material...

Congrats on the complete set. Maybe you can help with a couple questions.

I've seen several references to the set being complete at 91 sets (2,184 cards).
That makes sense with 24 cards/set (91x24=2,184). However, the Mike Flanagan card I have is numbered 102-01. Does that mean the sets weren't sequentially numbered? I've also seen reference to set 103 being the final one.

Also, could you check to see if you have any other Orioles variations in your set not listed below

Brooks Robinson #16-07 - 1977 Lausanne, 1977 Lausanne A, 1979 Geneva B

Earl Weaver (Lingo II) #18-16 - 1978 Lausanne

Jim Palmer #26-15 - 1978 Lausanne, 1979 Geneva A, 1979 Geneva B, 1979 Geneva C

Memorial Stadium #58-12 - 1979 Lausanne

Frank Robinson #59-20 - 1979 Lausanne, 1979 Geneva A

Mike Flanagan #102-01 - 1979 Geneva, 1979 Geneva A

Thanks in advance for any information.

orioles70 02-01-2020 07:35 PM

The series are numbered 1-88 and 101-103 for the total of 91 series at 24 cards each

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orioles70 02-02-2020 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BaltOrioles (Post 1952106)
Congrats on the complete set. Maybe you can help with a couple questions.



I've seen several references to the set being complete at 91 sets (2,184 cards).

That makes sense with 24 cards/set (91x24=2,184). However, the Mike Flanagan card I have is numbered 102-01. Does that mean the sets weren't sequentially numbered? I've also seen reference to set 103 being the final one.



Also, could you check to see if you have any other Orioles variations in your set not listed below



Brooks Robinson #16-07 - 1977 Lausanne, 1977 Lausanne A, 1979 Geneva B



Earl Weaver (Lingo II) #18-16 - 1978 Lausanne



Jim Palmer #26-15 - 1978 Lausanne, 1979 Geneva A, 1979 Geneva B, 1979 Geneva C



Memorial Stadium #58-12 - 1979 Lausanne



Frank Robinson #59-20 - 1979 Lausanne, 1979 Geneva A



Mike Flanagan #102-01 - 1979 Geneva, 1979 Geneva A



Thanks in advance for any information.

I will check my O's cards when I get a chance

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orioles70 02-02-2020 01:23 AM

Having some RLS issues (Restless Leg Syndrome) so net surfing in bed...here is one of my displays of odds and ends O's stuff...the Robinson boys 1969 Transograms...some 1956 Topps pins of Triandos, Miranda and Smith...the 1957 Swift Meats Triandos, both on card and assembled...the 1955 Robert Gould Joe Coleman, card and figure...1957 Paul Richards Finger Tip Movie...and a couple of 1950's scorebooks...that Food Fair scorebook gets my vote for worst Oriole bird ever

This thread has been fun to review and has helped me reconnect with items in my collection that I have neglected to enjoy for far too long...thanks for starting this

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orioles70 02-02-2020 01:39 AM

What do Suzy Q's, Cupcakes, Ho Ho's and King Dons have in common? (No political jokes please) Okay,, one answer could be the beginnings of juvenille diabetes...but the answer I was looking for was Hostess baseball cards...and boxes with Orioles shown...like thesehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...4bf96aca6e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...0b5e298236.jpg

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Mark70Z 02-02-2020 04:10 AM

Orioles Bird
 
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Posted for Clint (ksfarmboy) Today Clint has an early Oriole bird patch that was on the sleeve of a game used jersey.

Personally one of my favorite on-sleeve patches!


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Mark70Z 02-02-2020 04:13 AM

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Day 33 (February 2, 2020 – 033)

Today seems like it’d be a good day for a B. Robinson bat. This is an Adirondack 302 model (1968-1971) 277A, weighs 32.5 ounces and has a flared knob. Brooks used both H&B and Adirondack during his career; as you can see this is a block letter type Adirondack.


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Mark70Z 02-02-2020 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by orioles70 (Post 1952164)
Having some RLS issues (Restless Leg Syndrome) so net surfing in bed...here is one of my displays of odds and ends O's stuff...the Robinson boys 1969 Transograms...some 1956 Topps pins of Triandos, Miranda and Smith...the 1957 Swift Meats Triandos, both on card and assembled...the 1955 Robert Gould Joe Coleman, card and figure...1957 Paul Richards Finger Tip Movie...and a couple of 1950's scorebooks...that Food Fair scorebook gets my vote for worst Oriole bird ever

This thread has been fun to review and has helped me reconnect with items in my collection that I have neglected to enjoy for far too long...thanks for starting this

John

John,

Sure hope you are up and around soon.

Some awesome pieces shown. It’s pictures like this that definitely sway me from my relatively narrow focus to expand to all these other great Oriole players. My only issue really is expendable income; just don’t have enough for it all. I’ve never seen the Food Fair scorebook. When (hopefully soon) you get around could you please take an individual shot of the scorebook? I don’t know what your talking about that’s a great looking Oriole bird :eek:

Like the full boxes of all the snack food. I know I had my share of the various snacks when I was young. Of course I still sneak a few of those still...

OriolesHOF 02-02-2020 09:03 AM

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Great Brooks gamer Mark!

Here's a 1964 Boog GU bat with cleat marks, ball marks, bat rack streaking and a light coat of pine tar. The knob has the O16 model number and a faded 26.

35'', 34.9 oz.

orioles70 02-02-2020 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark70Z (Post 1952187)
John,



Sure hope you are up and around soon.



Some awesome pieces shown. It’s pictures like this that definitely sway me from my relatively narrow focus to expand to all these other great Oriole players. My only issue really is expendable income; just don’t have enough for it all. I’ve never seen the Food Fair scorebook. When (hopefully soon) you get around could you please take an individual shot of the scorebook? I don’t know what your talking about that’s a great looking Oriole bird :eek:



Like the full boxes of all the snack food. I know I had my share of the various snacks when I was young. Of course I still sneak a few of those still...

RLS is just fancy medical language for "twitchy legs"...happens occasionally at night and is really no big deal...can make it uncomfortable trying to sleep sometimes

Here is the close up of the 1954 Food Fair Orioles scorebook you requested...front and back...it is 5.5" x 2.5"

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BaltOrioles 02-02-2020 11:22 AM

1954-55 Zipcards
 
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Here's a set that shows up once in awhile, but no one seems to know much about. The Zipcards sets from 1954-55 have long been debated whether they are actually from that era or printed later. I know I've had my set 35+ years. They come in two sizes (smaller 2" x 2 1/2" and larger 2 3/4" x 3 1/2") and are crude photos, especially the smaller ones. Even old time Orioles collectors from the Baltimore area don't have much information about manufacturer, distribution or reason for different sizes. The sets appear to be complete at 12 cards in 1954 and 13 cards in 1955, even though after the first 10 cards in each set, the cards are skip numbered. I've never seen any other cards offered beyond the 25 pictured. Over the years, I seen a wide range of prices on sets and individual cards. I remember a set in auction years ago that went for around $5000. I don't think the set comes close to approaching that figure today, but an interesting mystery that someone might be able to solve.

1954 Zipcards

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BaltOrioles 02-02-2020 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by orioles70 (Post 1952164)
Having some RLS issues (Restless Leg Syndrome) so net surfing in bed...here is one of my displays of odds and ends O's stuff...the Robinson boys 1969 Transograms...some 1956 Topps pins of Triandos, Miranda and Smith...the 1957 Swift Meats Triandos, both on card and assembled...the 1955 Robert Gould Joe Coleman, card and figure...1957 Paul Richards Finger Tip Movie...and a couple of 1950's scorebooks...that Food Fair scorebook gets my vote for worst Oriole bird ever

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John,

Nice post with some cool items. I have all the items, except the Transogram boxes. I had all the Orioles as a kid, but unfortunately I didn't have the foresight to save the boxes, but still have the cards I cut out. You are the only other person I've seen with the Food Fair scorebook. Unusual programs and scorecards are one of my hobby hot buttons.

Even if some of the posts are items I don't personally collect, I'm also enjoying seeing the variety of Orioles items in everyone's collections.

Mark70Z 02-02-2020 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by OriolesHOF (Post 1952218)
Great Brooks gamer Mark!

Here's a 1964 Boog GU bat with cleat marks, ball marks, bat rack streaking and a light coat of pine tar. The knob has the O16 model number and a faded 26.

35'', 34.9 oz.

Hal,

That Boog bat has it all! Really like this early Boog example.

Mark70Z 02-02-2020 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by orioles70 (Post 1952244)
RLS is just fancy medical language for "twitchy legs"...happens occasionally at night and is really no big deal...can make it uncomfortable trying to sleep sometimes

Here is the close up of the 1954 Food Fair Orioles scorebook you requested...front and back...it is 5.5" x 2.5"John

Thanks for the close up pic. That just reminds me of the old Mad Magazine Spy vs. Spy drawing. It's so bad it MAY be good... :D

Mark70Z 02-02-2020 03:33 PM

[QUOTE=BaltOrioles;1952246]Here's a set that shows up once in awhile, but no one seems to know much about. The Zipcards sets from 1954-55 have long been debated whether they are actually from that era or printed later. I know I've had my set 35+ years. They come in two sizes (smaller 2" x 2 1/2" and larger 2 3/4" x 3 1/2") and are crude photos, especially the smaller ones. Even old time Orioles collectors from the Baltimore area don't have much information about manufacturer, distribution or reason for different sizes. The sets appear to be complete at 12 cards in 1954 and 13 cards in 1955, even though after the first 10 cards in each set, the cards are skip numbered. I've never seen any other cards offered beyond the 25 pictured. Over the years, I seen a wide range of prices on sets and individual cards. I remember a set in auction years ago that went for around $5000. I don't think the set comes close to approaching that figure today, but an interesting mystery that someone might be able to solve.

Those are really nice; thanks so much for posting these rare Oriole items.

Mark70Z 02-03-2020 12:57 AM

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Posted for Clint (ksfarmboy) Orioles compact (powder box).

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I have an example of the compact in my collection as well.

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Mark70Z 02-03-2020 01:00 AM

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Day 34 (February 3, 2020 – 034)

I’m a pushover for snapshot photos; B&W, color it doesn’t matter (even if you can’t see him that well). Here’s a pretty good snapshot of Brooks in his old school trophy room (man; he’s even got a TV). The picture is mounted on one of those pages where the photo sticks to it like glue. I tried to get one of the other pictures off of the page and, of course, ruined it. So, this picture is on there for now unless someone has a tip for conducting this process. I thought about splitting the page between the front and back, but didn’t want to destroy the thing.

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Bob (commishbob) – please keep the dig going for the Orioles spring training snapshots; I’ll purchase them this time… :D

quitcrab 02-03-2020 05:12 AM

MS Postcard
 
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Commemorative Sports Prints.Inc Ridgewood, Md.
Not sure where I picked this up along the way. Nice shot Of Memorial Stadium on a beautiful day.

quitcrab 02-03-2020 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark70Z (Post 1952378)
Day 34 (February 3, 2020 – 034)

I’m a pushover for snapshot photos; B&W, color it doesn’t matter (even if you can’t see him that well). Here’s a pretty good snapshot of Brooks in his old school trophy room (man; he’s even got a TV). The picture is mounted on one of those pages where the photo sticks to it like glue. I tried to get one of the other pictures off of the page and, of course, ruined it. So, this picture is on there for now unless someone has a tip for conducting this process. I thought about splitting the page between the front and back, but didn’t want to destroy the thing.

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Bob (commishbob) – please keep the dig going for the Orioles spring training snapshots; I’ll purchase them this time… :D

Great photo Mark ! Try using a hairdryer on the back of the photo. It may loosen the glue and let you remove the photo from the sticky backing. Be careful !

Mark70Z 02-03-2020 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by quitcrab (Post 1952383)
Great photo Mark ! Try using a hairdryer on the back of the photo. It may loosen the glue and let you remove the photo from the sticky backing. Be careful !

There are snapshot photos on both sides of the album page.

jjp3rd 02-03-2020 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Mark70Z (Post 1952390)
There are snapshot photos on both sides of the album page.


This is a score sheet from the minor league orioles in 1935

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BaltOrioles 02-03-2020 08:53 AM

1956 Hocus Focus
 
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Here' s an Orioles card I'm glad I picked up many years ago. It's the 1956 Hocus Focus of Hal Smith. For those unfamiliar with the set, they are small cards (1" x 1.5") that you could develop yourself as the wrapper demonstrates.
Hal Smith was the only Orioles of the 18 baseball subjects. Smith was also in the 1955 set that contained 23 baseball players. The only difference I know of is that Smith is #17 in 1955 and #15 in the 1956 set.

Here's a scan of the 1956 card along with the wrapper (not mine)

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ksfarmboy 02-03-2020 09:33 AM

Great card Alan!

OriolesHOF 02-03-2020 10:03 AM

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I really enjoy viewing all the Brooks/Baltimore items from everyones collection. In fact, several of the items I've been researching for future purchases. I'm sure many of you wanted to hear that (supply and demand). lol

1956 line up card signed by Manager Paul Richards. The game took place on Sept. 9th at Memorial Stadium against the Red Sox. O's lost 3-2 in 12 innings with Connie Johnson pitching 11 innings. Baltimore had a HOF'er at third day that day.....George Kell.

Can't believe PSA put a sticker on the reverse.

jjp3rd 02-03-2020 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by OriolesHOF (Post 1952426)
I really enjoy viewing all the Brooks/Baltimore items from everyones collection. In fact, several of the items I've been researching for future purchases. I'm sure many of you wanted to hear that (supply and demand). lol

1956 line up card signed by Manager Paul Richards. The game took place on Sept. 9th at Memorial Stadium against the Red Sox. O's lost 3-2 in 12 innings with Connie Johnson pitching 11 innings. Baltimore had a HOF'er at third day that day.....George Kell.

Can't believe PSA put a sticker on the reverse.



Did they put the sticker on the actual lineup card? That’s crazy!



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OriolesHOF 02-03-2020 10:58 AM

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Did they put the sticker on the actual lineup card? That’s crazy!

They sure did! If it's any consolation, at least it's not on the front.

Mark70Z 02-03-2020 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jjp3rd (Post 1952391)
This is a score sheet from the minor league orioles in 1935

I think I said it before, but I haven’t delved into the old school Orioles “yet”. You have a very neat piece. I understand George Puccinelli was quite a force in the league. Even though he didn’t do much in this particular game he won the Triple Crown and was the 1935 MVP in the International League.

Mark70Z 02-03-2020 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BaltOrioles (Post 1952403)
Here' s an Orioles card I'm glad I picked up many years ago. It's the 1956 Hocus Focus of Hal Smith. For those unfamiliar with the set, they are small cards (1" x 1.5") that you could develop yourself as the wrapper demonstrates.
Hal Smith was the only Orioles of the 18 baseball subjects. Smith was also in the 1955 set that contained 23 baseball players. The only difference I know of is that Smith is #17 in 1955 and #15 in the 1956 set.

Here's a scan of the 1956 card along with the wrapper (not mine)

Alan,

That Hocus Focus card is very nice. I don’t think I’ve really even seen one. I also really didn’t know very much about the cards so appreciate the education on this issue.

Mark70Z 02-03-2020 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OriolesHOF (Post 1952426)
I really enjoy viewing all the Brooks/Baltimore items from everyones collection. In fact, several of the items I've been researching for future purchases. I'm sure many of you wanted to hear that (supply and demand). lol

1956 line up card signed by Manager Paul Richards. The game took place on Sept. 9th at Memorial Stadium against the Red Sox. O's lost 3-2 in 12 innings with Connie Johnson pitching 11 innings. Baltimore had a HOF'er at third day that day.....George Kell.

Can't believe PSA put a sticker on the reverse.

What were they authenticating? Was it whether it was a real lineup card or the Richards autograph? I know I have a few things with stickers on the front/back. I didn’t submit them, but someone did.

OriolesHOF 02-03-2020 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark70Z (Post 1952446)
What were they authenticating? Was it whether it was a real lineup card or the Richards autograph? I know I have a few things with stickers on the front/back. I didn’t submit them, but someone did.

They were authenticating the signature.

Mark70Z 02-03-2020 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OriolesHOF (Post 1952448)
They were authenticating the signature.

Still looks GREAT (excluding the sticker...).

jjp3rd 02-03-2020 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark70Z (Post 1952444)
I think I said it before, but I haven’t delved into the old school Orioles “yet”. You have a very neat piece. I understand George Puccinelli was quite a force in the league. Even though he didn’t do much in this particular game he won the Triple Crown and was the 1935 MVP in the International League.


Here’s my Puccinelli 1936 World Wide Gum card. I really like the minor league stuff...it’s fun to collect. I have the minor league Orioles WWG set, C46, T205 and T206 sets. Hope to build a few more!

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Mark70Z 02-04-2020 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jjp3rd (Post 1952461)
Here’s my Puccinelli 1936 World Wide Gum card. I really like the minor league stuff...it’s fun to collect. I have the minor league Orioles WWG set, C46, T205 and T206 sets. Hope to build a few more!

John,

That's very nice and does sound fun to collect. I'd like to see more of your collection regarding the cards you're referring. I'm not familiar with some of the cards you're talking about so to get a visual would be cool.

Mark70Z 02-04-2020 02:33 AM

Mike Boddiker
 
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Below is a 1983 Mike Boddicker Game Used jersey. Boddiker was the ALCS MVP in 1983 and of course the Orioles did fairly well in the 1983 World Series.

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Mark70Z 02-04-2020 02:37 AM

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Brooks is pictured along with Manny Sanguillen, catcher for the Pirates, shot during the ’71 World Series in a paperback book by Don Smith entitled, “Baseball: How to Hit and Run!” I never personally got past the cover of this small book; I just liked the cover.

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Thought I’d add a picture of Brooks in the 1971 World Series.

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orioles70 02-04-2020 03:31 AM

As a kid there was only Topps and the occasional food issue for me to collect...and in 1970 Kellogg's started putting 3-D cards in cereal boxes...and I would like to quote their cereal sage Tony the Tiger and say “They're grrrrrreat!”*

I completed all the baseball and football 3-D sets years ago....but here are complete 1970 boxes showing the baseball and football cards on the back...along with some duplicate cards for display...Brooks is the feature card on the baseball box. And I like the fact it shows the Seattle Pilots card.

You can find some cut box panels showing the 1970 3-D cards but complete boxes in nice shape are pretty tough and make a nice display.

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quitcrab 02-04-2020 05:16 AM

Team Issues
 
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Autographed from two of Baltimore's best !

quitcrab 02-04-2020 05:20 AM

68 as
 
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One of my favorite issue form the 60's.

BaltOrioles 02-04-2020 08:36 AM

1971 Milk Duds
 
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Originally Posted by orioles70 (Post 1952575)
As a kid there was only Topps and the occasional food issue for me to collect...and in 1970 Kellogg's started putting 3-D cards in cereal boxes...and I would like to quote their cereal sage Tony the Tiger and say “They're grrrrrreat!”*

John

John,

I remember those days well, searching the candy and cereal aisles for potential treasures. I just recently completed my 1971 Orioles Kelloggs master set with all the back variations. I'm still looking for the 1977 Wayne Garland (last line ends in "knuckleball") and the 1979 Mike Flanagan (57 K's) variations. Selecting that box of Corn Flakes with a coveted Oriole inside was always a crap shoot. It was always easier sifting through RC Cola cans, Milk Duds and Hostess boxes to find those missing gems.

Some of my favorite sets are from that era, especially the Milk Duds set from 1971. Fresh off their World Series win, 6 Orioles were featured along with Milt Pappas. Milt had long been dealt away and, even as a kid, I wondered why he was pictured as an Oriole. I keep him with my O's set, just for that reason.

quitcrab 02-04-2020 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BaltOrioles (Post 1952597)
John,

I remember those days well, searching the candy and cereal aisles for potential treasures. I just recently completed my 1971 Orioles Kelloggs master set with all the back variations. I'm still looking for the 1977 Wayne Garland (last line ends in "knuckleball") and the 1979 Mike Flanagan (57 K's) variations. Selecting that box of Corn Flakes with a coveted Oriole inside was always a crap shoot. It was always easier sifting through RC Cola cans, Milk Duds and Hostess boxes to find those missing gems.

Some of my favorite sets are from that era, especially the Milk Duds set from 1971. Fresh off their World Series win, 6 Orioles were featured along with Milt Pappas. Milt had long been dealt away and, even as a kid, I wondered why he was pictured as an Oriole. I keep him with my O's set, just for that reason.

Those milk dud full boxes are nice. Have any extra ? Working on a set! I love full boxes! Scott

Phil68 02-04-2020 10:24 AM

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Card sold in 2019 Christmas Auction. Great smile on Brooks here!

Phil68 02-04-2020 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BaltOrioles (Post 1952597)
John,

I remember those days well, searching the candy and cereal aisles for potential treasures. I just recently completed my 1971 Orioles Kelloggs master set with all the back variations. I'm still looking for the 1977 Wayne Garland (last line ends in "knuckleball") and the 1979 Mike Flanagan (57 K's) variations. Selecting that box of Corn Flakes with a coveted Oriole inside was always a crap shoot. It was always easier sifting through RC Cola cans, Milk Duds and Hostess boxes to find those missing gems.

Some of my favorite sets are from that era, especially the Milk Duds set from 1971. Fresh off their World Series win, 6 Orioles were featured along with Milt Pappas. Milt had long been dealt away and, even as a kid, I wondered why he was pictured as an Oriole. I keep him with my O's set, just for that reason.

You, Sir, are one hell of a collector! I admire your passion. Great stuff.

jjp3rd 02-04-2020 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark70Z (Post 1952569)
John,



That's very nice and does sound fun to collect. I'd like to see more of your collection regarding the cards you're referring. I'm not familiar with some of the cards you're talking about so to get a visual would be cool.


This one is the C46. It was a Canadian issue that featured the International League teams, and there were 14 Orioles cards. I have completed the set of Baltimore players. This one is my favorite.

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This one is the T205. Two minor league Orioles were featured...Adkins and Dunn. Both also appeared in the T206 and C46 sets:
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There are other cards featuring Minor League Orioles, I believe, such as the 9 in the T206 set. I’m sure someone here will fill in the gaps for me.



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Mark70Z 02-04-2020 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by quitcrab (Post 1952578)
One of my favorite issue form the 60's.

Scott,

When I first started collecting I really didn't seek after the '68 Action Stickers, but now, like you, they are one of my favorites. It may be because they're odd and then another reason is I don't understand how did these things could have survived...

As you know I don't have a full '68 Action Sticker with Brooks, but maybe someday. He just had to be on there with Clemente.

Mark70Z 02-04-2020 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BaltOrioles (Post 1952597)
Some of my favorite sets are from that era, especially the Milk Duds set from 1971. Fresh off their World Series win, 6 Orioles were featured along with Milt Pappas. Milt had long been dealt away and, even as a kid, I wondered why he was pictured as an Oriole. I keep him with my O's set, just for that reason.

Alan,

Awesome collection of the boxes. Really like that you encompass all of the Oriole players in your collection. Thanks so much for showing your collection; it's inspiring.

Mark70Z 02-04-2020 03:14 PM

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Card sold in 2019 Christmas Auction. Great smile on Brooks here!

Now that is a great looking card! When a B&W photo is colored is it called colorized? Whatever its called it looks nice and I'd like to have one myself. How many of this example were produced?

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Mark70Z 02-04-2020 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil68 (Post 1952623)
You, Sir, are one hell of a collector! I admire your passion. Great stuff.

I'm with you on Alan's collection...

orioles70 02-04-2020 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BaltOrioles (Post 1952597)
John,



I remember those days well, searching the candy and cereal aisles for potential treasures. I just recently completed my 1971 Orioles Kelloggs master set with all the back variations. I'm still looking for the 1977 Wayne Garland (last line ends in "knuckleball") and the 1979 Mike Flanagan (57 K's) variations. Selecting that box of Corn Flakes with a coveted Oriole inside was always a crap shoot. It was always easier sifting through RC Cola cans, Milk Duds and Hostess boxes to find those missing gems.



Some of my favorite sets are from that era, especially the Milk Duds set from 1971. Fresh off their World Series win, 6 Orioles were featured along with Milt Pappas. Milt had long been dealt away and, even as a kid, I wondered why he was pictured as an Oriole. I keep him with my O's set, just for that reason.

Yep...they are nice Milk Duds boxes...I am missing the Palmer box to have all the O's...would like to get the Palmer box by cash or trade if somebody has a full box in nice shape...have all the 70's Hostess sets and the two RC Cola sets...here is the 1977 RC Cola set...the 1978 set is larger and a little harder for me to get to right now

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Mark70Z 02-04-2020 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jjp3rd (Post 1952693)
This one is the C46. It was a Canadian issue that featured the International League teams, and there were 14 Orioles cards. I have completed the set of Baltimore players. This one is my favorite.

This one is the T205. Two minor league Orioles were featured...Adkins and Dunn. Both also appeared in the T206 and C46 sets:

There are other cards featuring Minor League Orioles, I believe, such as the 9 in the T206 set. I’m sure someone here will fill in the gaps for me.

John,

I don't believe I've even seen an example of any C46 cards. Thanks for showing me an Oriole example and a NICE one as well.

At least I've seen some of the T205 cards, but I like the look.

I know I've seen, at least, most of the Orioles T206 cards.

Mark70Z 02-04-2020 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by orioles70 (Post 1952710)
yep...they are nice milk duds boxes...i am missing the palmer box to have all the o's...would like to get the palmer box by cash or trade if somebody has a full box in nice shape...have all the 70's hostess sets and the two rc cola sets...here is the 1977 rc cola set...the 1978 set is larger and a little harder for me to get to right now

john

wow!!!

Phil68 02-04-2020 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark70Z (Post 1952705)
Now that is a great looking card! When a B&W photo is colored is it called colorized? Whatever its called it looks nice and I'd like to have one myself. How many of this example were produced?

1956 B&W photo


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Colorized, yes. Then customized filters are overlaid in 4 parts. Only 1 of the cards has been produced. It debuted in the Christmas Auctions. There will be another this year, at some point--not sure when.
One difficulty in creating these is that I'm a stickler for accurate time periods of the photos. Like a 1961 photo of Brooks for a "rookie" card annoys me, Lol.

This is a freakshow thread. It's perfect. I've seen stuff I didn't know existed and beautiful examples of stuff I did. I check this every day I can. It's astounding how meticulously these compilations are kept.

I have to say, John, BE CAREFUL with that coffee pot so close to your display!!! :D

orioles70 02-04-2020 03:50 PM

One difficulty in creating these is that I'm a stickler for accurate time periods of the photos. Like a 1961 photo of Brooks for a "rookie" card annoys me, Lol.



This is a freakshow thread. It's perfect. I've seen stuff I didn't know existed and beautiful examples of stuff I did. I check this every day I can. It's astounding how meticulously these compilations are kept.



I have to say, John, BE CAREFUL with that coffee pot so close to your display!!! :D[/QUOTE]


It's ok...I took off the top of the display case to take the pic of the cereal boxes...and I don't even drink coffee...lol

John

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jjp3rd 02-04-2020 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by orioles70 (Post 1952718)
One difficulty in creating these is that I'm a stickler for accurate time periods of the photos. Like a 1961 photo of Brooks for a "rookie" card annoys me, Lol.



This is a freakshow thread. It's perfect. I've seen stuff I didn't know existed and beautiful examples of stuff I did. I check this every day I can. It's astounding how meticulously these compilations are kept.



I have to say, John, BE CAREFUL with that coffee pot so close to your display!!! :D


It's ok...I took off the top of the display case to take the pic of the cereal boxes...and I don't even drink coffee...lol

John

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Agreed, GREAT thread!!


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Mark70Z 02-04-2020 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil68 (Post 1952715)
Colorized, yes. Then customized filters are overlaid in 4 parts. Only 1 of the cards has been produced. It debuted in the Christmas Auctions. There will be another this year, at some point--not sure when.
One difficulty in creating these is that I'm a stickler for accurate time periods of the photos. Like a 1961 photo of Brooks for a "rookie" card annoys me, Lol.

Phil,

Please, please let me know when another one becomes available and keep it hush...hush..:cool:

ksfarmboy 02-04-2020 05:30 PM

John those 3D boxes are phenomenal!

orioles70 02-04-2020 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ksfarmboy (Post 1952741)
John those 3D boxes are phenomenal!

Thanks, took a while to find them in nice shape. I like to display boxes as they were originally intended.

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Mark70Z 02-05-2020 02:02 AM

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A small Permagraph plaque of Brooks with a pretty nice blue sharpie signature of Brooks on the baseball portion of the item. Item highlights Brooks’ career stats along with a few of his accomplishments as a player.

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Brooks Robinson signed baseball

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Mark70Z 02-05-2020 02:12 AM

Mike Boddiker
 
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Mike Boddicker game used jacket.

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Clint,

If you have an opportunity can I see the tag for the Boddicker jacket? Also, do you know the year of use?

ripfan008 02-05-2020 04:57 AM

Orioles Advocates
 
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Good morning, I agree with this being a freak show thread that I love. There are so many new items that I didn't know about that I now have to (joyously and annoyingly) find.

That Orioles plate of the final out of the '66 World Series ended on Ebay last night. Did anyone on here purchase it?

I just picked up this collection of Orioles Advocate paper ephemera from 1964-66. It includes meeting minutes, several blank birthday cards and envelopes, and invitations to various events, including Brooks Robinson Night at Memorial Stadium in 1964.

It all seems to have been in the collection of one of the board members of the Orioles Advocates.

quitcrab 02-05-2020 05:05 AM

Shirt
 
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Not sure but I think this came from Sears or Montgomery Wards. This is a Boys Shirt or Pajama top Brooks style! Its is sealed in the original packaging.

quitcrab 02-05-2020 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ripfan008 (Post 1952822)
good morning, i agree with this being a freak show thread that i love. There are so many new items that i didn't know about that i now have to (joyously and annoyingly) find.

That orioles plate of the final out of the '66 world series ended on ebay last night. Did anyone on here purchase it?

I just picked up this collection of orioles advocate paper ephemera from 1964-66. It includes meeting minutes, several blank birthday cards and envelopes, and invitations to various events, including brooks robinson night at memorial stadium in 1964.

It all seems to have been in the collection of one of the board members of the orioles advocates.

Not a crab cake ! Love it

jjp3rd 02-05-2020 06:12 AM

Not Orioles, per se, but Orioles related...score sheet and ticket stub from 1958 all-star game at Memorial Stadium

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BaltOrioles 02-05-2020 07:31 AM

Orioles photo
 
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Alan,

Really like that you encompass all of the Oriole players in your collection. Thanks so much for showing your collection; it's inspiring.

I've mentioned previously in this thread, my love of the history of the Orioles franchise from 1954-present, including their minor league affiliates. One collecting goal is to have a photo of everyone to ever appear in a game for the Orioles, pictured in their Orioles uniform. The team issued postcards and 8x10 photos have helped me to appreciate the journeyman and cup of tea Orioles in my collection. Brooks Robinson will always be the man, but quite frankly it's easy to be a Brooks collector, compared to finding that obscure Orioles photo. Believe it or not, the Orioles don't even have photos of a few players. I've asked.

I recently found this photo of an O's player. I'd been searching for him since his debut in 1991. In fact, a recent conversation with one of his friends, Ross Grimsley, revealed that he has been looking for a photo of himself as an Oriole too. While he was in the Orioles minor league system from 1989-1991 and appeared in over 200 games for Rochester and Hagerstown, his Orioles career lasted 4 games and 1 At Bat.

I got as excited when I found this photo, as when I pick up a new Brooks Robinson item. Maybe more. Any guesses....

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1991 photo of Shane Turner


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