Oversized Pennants...

Final batch...

Wow
 

Simply awesome!!! I am in total awe of this

That is one awesome collection!!

Nice

They look great Mark.

Pennants
 

Wow... Those are "ALL" amazing!

Where are the Int'l League O's?!?

Great Pennants Mark! But what's really amazing is the amount of wall space you have! :eek:
Seriously...Well organized, appealing displays.

Was lucky enough to pick this up.

HOLY...:eek::eek::eek:

Thanks all... It's been a labor of love for quite a while...

Mike:
That's a gorgeous oversized Cubs Pennant. Looks so nice, lit up by the lamp underneath. Congrats on that rare beauty!

Thanks Mark. That's quite a compliment coming from the King of Oversized Pennants.

+1 on Mike's Cubs pennant, and I'll say that some day visiting Mark's collection is on my bucket list - display looks great Mark.

Any ideas as to what this Cubs is worth? I have a chance to buy it, but at a very high price. I don't see it in the Egner price guide.

Thanks!
Lou
P.S. We just picked up over 200 nice vintage pennants (30's through 60's mostly baseball & football) and we're going to look at more this weekend. Hopefully we'll be getting some nice stuff.

I have it. I'm on the road and will post a pic of an even more obscure one of that general style.

Love the Indians one...the one with all the native Americans on it...very cool.
Andy

awesome thread
 

I've seen more pennants that I've never seen before going thru all 58 pages than in the last 10 years combined.

Wait - isn't that Ebbets Field with "WRIGLEY FIELD" slapped on the front of it?

Mike -
Nice looking Premiere Card Machine.
Jerry Sage

Lou,
I would say that pennant is in the $200-250 range. It is a difficult pennant, but a 40's - early 50's version. Hope this helps. Jason

Nice pennant Rick, but we don't allow Red Sox items in this thread.

Reds pennants
 

Chris asked if we picked up any Reds pennants - this is what we have so far. We are going back this weekend and hopefully will buy more.
lou@insidetheparkcollectibles.com

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Mark. Wonderful amazing collection. Thanks for taking the time to post. One after another after another...tough ones and great looking too. I typically love the oversized ca. 1910s but that Indians pennant w the dancing Indian made me stop and stare. Wow.

And Ricardoh, all beauties too. How many of those 1912 Champions pennants are known.

My favorite thread, thanks guys.

First 3d Red Sox one I have seen. Dodgers, Yankees, Giants, Red Sox ??

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complete, only made for SB2 thru SB8

Amazing, Rick!

That's the best Red Sox Pennant collection I've seen. Beautiful pieces, with a few of those probably being "lone survivors". Never seen that Ted Williams variation.... Niiiiice! :cool:

Incredible collections! Thanks for sharing.

Rick,
Why don't you think they made these for the first Super Bowl? I know the super bowl wasn't really "super" in the first couple years, but you'd think there would be more pennants around. Jason

Mark, thank you.

All I know is the pennants you have posted on this forum make up the most amazing collection I could ever imagine. Absolutely fantastic!

I do have many other Red Sox but those are most of the best ones. I will put a few more up soon.

Hi Jason, hope to see you at a show again someday.
I think the first Super Bowl was considered too much of an 'exhibition' than it was soon being thought of. That is why the game attendance was so small. The vendors didn't jump on board in time, clearly. After the game, it became clear how important an event it was and by the next year it was obviously going to become a yearly contest and with obvious importance. By then, the vendors were going full force. Before the first game I think very few understood how important it was going to become.

8 inch mini pennants from the 30s, each team came in various colors, but these are very scare and hard to find. also a full set of Keezer patches, also difficult to run across.

I know this is the prevailing thought, but there are so many ridiculous pennants for almost any event you can think of. You'd have to believe there would at least one boot leg vendor would be trying to make some money. Especially with the Packers playing. Los Angeles was a good market for collectibles and I just find it strange that we don't see more pennants. There were 60,000 people at the game or at least that is the reported attendance. It must be though, as you don't really see much else for trinkets either. I just have a hard time believing they would miss a chance to make a buck.

Wow, those are some rarely seen logos on those mini-pennants. Really love the quirkiness and "off colors". Especially like the Reds Mascot... Is that a Policeman holding a Beer Stein? Must admit I've never even seen most of those.

Great post!

A couple of my favorite banners/pennants.
http://images.yuku.com.s3.amazonaws....0a79a6b7c3.jpg

I could only find one in my collection. The first pic is mine and the other is just a pic I somehow have. :p

I've been looking for an Army one like this. Great looking pennants.

Interesting Rob, in that all three pennants are quite different...

Mine: white shoes, white bridge, white bat, flesh-colored arms and face

Yours: white shoes, yellow bridge, yellow bat, tan arms and face

Other: grey shoes, white bridge, white bat, white arms and face

You'd think with one this rare, there would've been just a single manufacturing run. But there were clearly at least three. Kind of creates more questions than it answers :confused:

My son graduates from the University of Texas this month - love the Longhorn banner! :)

One of the things I love the most about the mini pennants, especially from the 30s, like the BF3's, are the color variations. These are 8inch and many of the teams have the same designs as their smaller versions. Here is an example of the Cleveland Indians and many of the colors it came in. I know more colors were made, too.

here is another one I almost forgot I had, from 1918, not as pretty as the others, but where you going to find another one? and more variations of some from the 40s. and 50s. for me, variations are the spice of life. in pennants, that is. ;) by the way, the last scroll pennant on the right in the bottom picture is a well made knockoff (I believe from the 80s) of the one next to it, too often mistaken as vintage, while it is not, although it is still collectible.

Wow! :eek:

Double Wow!!

Never seen many of those and LOVE the color variations. That is a phenomenal collection of Sox Pennants. Gotta be the best to exist.

Are there any variations you're missing, or still trying to hunt down?

Tremendous!

I do have a lot more I could post but these are the best and my favorite ones. I've been going to shows around the country for 30 years as a dealer, about 8 shows a year, plus ebay is the river that never stops flowing, so have had a ton of opportunities to run into them over that long. And of course there are many I've never seen and many very old ones I have seen I don't have. Finding anything I don't have is great, of course; it doesn't get old!

Just picked this up. Not fantastic shape but the price was right.

Question: The Giants won 3 pennants in the 1930s and 2 more in the 1950s. I usually see this pennant referred to as "1950s." Mike Egner's book says these are from the 1940s but I doubt that. Why is it this pennant couldn't be from the 1930s? The players certainly look of that era or earlier. :confused:

I've always believed the Cubs version of this pennant was from the 1930s rather than 1945 as Egner states. Have never been able to find proof, just a feeling.

There is a Phillies version of that exact pennant and they only had one NL championship between 1915 and 1980, which was 1950. http://i.imgur.com/Cvd26pE.jpg

my opinion is it is 50s. 30s pennants were usually with thicker felt, a thinner border, and often more like spaghetti tassles. very nice in any case!

Obviously, the Cubs version had to be from the 1930s or 40s, as 1945 was their last pennant. The most obvious answer is they were made over a period of many years. Maybe a checklist of all known pennants of this style would help.

This is a 50's pennant. You can often tell (my opinion) by the makeup of the pennant itself as well as the font used in the team lettering. Anything from the 30's is generally more block style. This font was generally not used until the 50's. The Phillies pennant shown (very nice and tough pennant) is one of the last to use this style. This is a classic 40's style design. I have many Yankees pennants that use variations of these designs over the 30-50's years. I also have many photos with fans holding these pennants showing these designs. Personally I believe the dating of some of the style pennants in Mike's book to be a little off. This of course is my opinion, but drawn from many years of experience.

So do you think think the Cubs version is from the 1930s or 1945?

I'd definitely say 1945 on that Cubs pennant. Just my opinion, but an educated one. I believe this style to have spanned from the mid forties through early fifties. About a 6-7 year span. I have also seen a Giants variation with a "1951" date.

You may be right Mark that it is 1945. But if so, I would have thought there would be a companion Detroit Tigers version and I have never seen one. That is one reason I always thought this was from 1938.

Good discussion.....

I agree with Mark. Definitely 1945. I have not seen a matching Tigers version either, but that is for sure 1945. All of those Cubs Post season are difficult pennants. A good number of the 30's and 1929 are dated or have both teams listed. This Cubs version is of the "newer" sort with more detailed graphics and generally multiple colors.

There are a few different versions of this pennant for the phillies. There is also a dodger one, which could be from 41, 47, 49 or 52...

http://imgur.com/a/8gZ2m

OK. 1945 it is.

I agree with all this. And just because a version was made for one team did not always mean an exacte version was made for the opposing team. Sometimes yes but not always. Until one is known, it cannot be assumed.

This is the biggest challenge estimating dates when pennants were made.

Mike,
Hopefully you didn't take my comments as a slight on your book. It is very well done and has been quickly adapted as "the" price guide for pennants. It is very difficult to date many of these pennants as there were so many produced in these general templates without any dating to them.

Would have been nice if they had put the year on all the pennant winner pennants!

Not at all. Thanks

Astros Pennant
 

Anyone ever seen this one?

http://s01.hugginsandscott.com/cgi-b...l?itemid=96567

We couldn't find it anywhere.
Thanks
Josh
Huggins and Scott

There was a recent discussion about that pennant. As I remember, someone had a chance to buy it as a flip.....

It may have been in this thread or maybe as a thread on it's own.

League Champion pennants
 

Nice discussion on the various League Champion pennants guys. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and insights.

I have a Yankees one which I thought was from the 1930's. Now I'm not so sure. It does have block lettering, which Jason notes as one indicator of possible 30's vintage.
But other evidence clearly shows that this graphic was used over a number of years. Since the Yankees won several pennants in the 30's, 40's and 50's, it doesn't help to narrow down that range.
I just wanted to say that his discussion was very informative to me. I'm thinking probably 1940's for the one I have now.

Wow there are some amazing pennants in this thread. Thankfully my tastes are a bit more pedestrian and singular when it comes to pennants. This one represents an upgrade for my collection. For some reason this version and the 1971 World Champions black scroll pennant seem difficult to find in any condition.

Here is the tigers version

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/XdAAAO...7Z/s-l1600.jpg

Hmmmm...could there be a whole set? I think I've seen just about every SF Giants pennant ever made but I've never seen one in that style.

it is the Keezer version for the Astros.

yes Keezer often had their stamp on the back. They made them for every team in the 50s and 60s, also mini pennants for every team. They are distinguishable by the location of the tassles on the border and how thick and wide they are, also the type of felt, etc. A great set to put together and not at all easy to do.

No kidding.... Might take a decade or more to put together that set!

This is almost a complete set, have a few others not pictured and also a weird Astros version, but still need the Browns and, assuming one was made, Colt 45s. These are some of my favorites, too, in particular Phillies and KC A's. Many of them were stamped on the back but some weren't.

NICE!!
I am not sure a Browns was ever made; I suspect these were probably made after they went to Baltimore. Same story for Colt 45s. I don't know of a Keezer Colt 45 version I've ever seen and I would not bet one was ever made.
So I would say you own a complete set! Very nice, indeed!

Are you sure the Astros is a Keezer? Because, obviously, the NY Giants and Brooklyn pennants would be 1957 or earlier while the Astros didn't come into existence until 1965. If the Astros is a Keezer, I would also expect an updated Giants and Dodgers.

Yes I am sure the Astros is Keezer. The Brooklyn and NY Giants are in his picture. The SF Giants Keezer is pictured somewhere on this forum; it is not all that difficult. And I am trying to picture in my head what the LA Dodgers looks like but can't remember, but have to believe it was made.

I have a full set of Keezer minis (or believe I do) that I've accumulated over the years. I am thinking almost all of the graphics on the mini pennants match the graphics on the full size ones. But some may be different, can't remember for certain. And a couple teams have more than one variation.

I will take some pictures of those tonight and post them.

If anyone has a picture of the SF Giants Keezer, please post. Is it the orange one with sliding runner, catcher and ump?

There is a Keezer Browns, it is identical to this Keezer mini I have pictured. I've seen it for sale before fullsize (very rare) but didn't pull the trigger. My Keezer Astros is similar to the white one now up for auction by Huggins, but the only graphic is that of an astronaut. It is red cloth with white letters. And if my memory serves me correctly, I may have bought it many years ago from someone involved in this discussion! :)

As someone who exclusively collects pennants, I am intrigued by the different styles, makers, etc. I really like the stadium pennants from the 50s and 60s. These date back to Ebbets and Polo Grounds up to the mid 60s. They had the artist's initials etched somewhere in the graphic and then a primitive trademark baseball in the later years. I think every team had a stadium version except for the Phillies, Mets, and Senators. And I wonder why that is the case. (I know the Mets have pennants with Shea depicted but that's not the same maker.)

Then there are the Ad Flag pennants which are really awful looking and look like they were cut with scissors. I have the Phillies one with the quaker batter and I got tired enough of looking at it that it is now buried in a drawer for good. I don't think they paid their art department a whole lot.


The Keezers, though, are very cool in their simplicity and are of high quality. Those tassels ain't falling out.