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Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p>Hijacking the thread.... Ok, I'm in the following categorey:<br /><br />Pro-Choice, death penalty supporting, collector of beat up cards (but will accept those that collect nicer grade cards) that will ask a seller to end an auction early, who believes that card grading companies should have three categories (Authentic, Altered and Restored) in which no numerical grade should be assigned.... there's more but those are for starters... <br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Jeff said it a lot more eloquently than I did- he is very smart, and you should listen to him- but the bottom line is you can't unite people when you make these very outlandish and extreme statements. Do you want to form a group of baseball card collectors, or a group of right wing Republicans? Because if it is the latter, unfortunately I'm out.<br /><br />I kind of think at this point you've given up on this organization thing anyhow. Not that it's a bad idea, but it just isn't likely to happen.

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Posted By: <b>J Levine</b><p>I worked all day with my first grade students and I guess it is rubbing off on me because my first impulse after reading all the b.s. Jim has spouted today was to find every post he makes and change the topic immediately...still not sure if I will do it but it would certainly make me feel good for awhile.<br /><br />Joshua<br /><br />PS Where is Wonkaticket!! His photo jabs would be perfect for this thread!

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Posted By: <b>DJ</b><p>I checked this morning and it was at two...now, three-hundred and fifty. Kind of get the feeling that Jim in the Substitude teacher here.<br /><br />Points of interest:<br /><br />1) Pro-Choice<br />2) Pat Boone had one good hit "Speedy Gonzalez" and he looks "darn yummy" in pleather<br />3) Colts by 18 on Sunday...who the hell have the Bears played and did they beat an AFC team this year? <br />4) Kinks freaking rule<br />5) My favorite "Mothers Of Invention" songs:<br /> -a) Harry You're a Beast<br /> -b) Let's Make The Water Turn Black<br /> -c) What's The Ugliest Part Of You<br />6) Bruce, you are not plural<br />7) Great one hit wonders:<br /> -1) Eve Of Destruction by Barry McGuire<br /> -2) Itchypoo Park by Small Faces<br /> -3) Backfield in Motion by Mel and Tim<br /> -4) In The Year 2525 by Zager and Evans<br /> -5) Don't Talk To Strangers by Beau Brummels<br />8) Anybody listen to (or know) of "The Fugs"?<br />9) Favorite "Fugs" songs:<br /> - 1) Boobs A Lot <br /> - 2) Coca-Cola Douche<br /> -3) I Feel Like Homeade S--t<br />10) "We" aren't into 'you tube'<br /><br />DJ<br /><br />edit: forgot about a song I liked

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Posted By: <b>Scott Mosley</b><p>Since this thread long jumped the shark...<br /><br />I just thought I'd share the fact that the lead guitarist of Strawberry Alarm Clock (Ed King) later joined Leonard Skynyrd in 1972 first as a bass player and then one of the lead guitarists for a couple of years until leaving a year or so before the infamous plane crash which disbanded the original group.<br /><br />I happened to get to know Ed King growing up from, of all places, church (true story!). <br /><br />I was a little young for Skynyrds prime but at least got to see their first reunion tour from back stage both stops when they came into the Capital Centre in Washington, DC.<br /><br /><img src="http://home.comcast.net/~jillmay5/misc/Skynyrd.jpg"><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Zager and Evans are from right here in my hometown.<br /><br /><object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/GLu2NBVFfFM"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/GLu2NBVFfFM" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>DJ- It's actually "What's the Ugliest Part of your Body" (some say your nose, some say your toes, but I think it's your mind). And I love the Fugs- I met Tuli Kupferberg a couple of times and he was very friendly and accessible- and yes, I love "Boobs A Lot" too- they were in tight with Allen Ginsberg <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Judson Hamlin</b><p>Didn't Small Faces also have a hit with the song that goes "I wish that I knew what I know now when I was younger" -- like all of us 300 posts ago<br /><br />One of Tuckerton's leading attractions is an abandoned fish cannery<br /><br />My father retired from the Superior Court- I guess that makes him an Old Judge<br /><br />A moose once bit my sister- moose bites can be very painful<br /><br />What about "Brown Shoes Don't Make It" or "Suzy Creamcheese" for you Mothers fans<br /><br />And yes, Colts 38, Bears 20<br /><br />If this isn't at 500 by 830 eastern, I'll be disappointed<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Todd Schultz</b><p>In the Summertime--Mungo Jerry<br />Ma Belle Amie--The Tee Set<br />My Maria--BW Stephenson<br />One Toke Over the Line--Brewer & Shipley<br />Ides of March--Vehicle<br />Cashman & West--American City Suite<br /><br />And who can forget either Timothy by the Bouys or DOA by Bloodrock?<br />

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>We apologise for the fault in the subtitles. Those responsible have<br />been sacked.

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Jeff,<br /><br />I invited you several times to e-mail me and I would debate you on your pro-abortion views but you have not responded. I wonder why? I don't believe this or any of the other stuff has a place on theis board so if you want to talk abortion or why the Dems have lost every election in recent years except the last one e-mail me and I will tell you why.<br /><br />Again, I am not bringing up these topics-- simply trying to respond briefly and urge people to e-mail me if they want to debate. Some did--mostly those who equate abortion with murder but don't want to incur the wrath of the pro-abortion enthusiasts on the board.<br /><br />As I said I can survive fine in the wild wild west where anything goes. Meanwhile, collectors of lower grade cards and ungraded cards will remail ignorant that there cards have been altered.<br /><br />Barry,<br /><br />You know and I have told you time and again that you are a liberal has no bearing--I don't care--so other than hopping aboard the anti-Jim bandwagon--don't know why you are giving up.

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Jim, Pro-Choice /= Pro-Abortion. You've been told this many times in this thread. Why would anyone want to debate you if you're going to go into the debate being disingenuous?

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Posted By: <b>Colt McClelland</b><p>Jim,<br /><br />I think this picture sums you up in a nutshell:<br /><br /><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/cmcclelland/ebayscans2/websize/douche_bag.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>howard</b><p>My favorite one hit wonder and a great use of a song in a movie:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fElrQC7Tb_o" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fElrQC7Tb_o</a>

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>And to return to the original point of the thread, I would like to emphasize which I believe some intelligent people agreed with--it is wrong to hijack a thread because you don't like the person that is posting or you don't like the topic.<br /><br />Jim

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>That's it, Jim -- I'm afraid to debate you. Your rapier-like wit would cut me to pieces. I don't know how I would survive.<br /><br />Also, your insistence upon terming pro choice people "pro-abortion" just underscores your ignorance and your desire to offend -- and underscores my insistence upon not wasting a second of my time 'debating' you. Honestly, I wonder how you treat your children when it is so clear you don't listen to what anyone says other than yourself. It wouldn't kill you to be open and kind instead of divisive and obnoxious. Hasn't anyone ever taught you that?

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Dan,<br /><br />Just because you believe that does not make it so--a lot of people feel like I do.<br /><br />Colt,<br /><br />Now even your friends are e-mailing me(yes, you do have a couple) saying they are begging you to stop as you are making a fool out of yourself.

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Posted By: <b>john/z28jd</b><p> Bill Cornell never had a thread go over 300 posts. Just goes to show you that you cant run a successful vintage baseball card board with a last name thats an Ivy League school....take that education!

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Sorry Jeff,<br /><br />Weak excuse--and I have wonderful children and it is very unfair of you to bring my children into the debate.<br /><br />If you are afraid to debate, fine--but no reason to resort to slander and involve my family.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Jim, too bad you don't know the definition of slander. Perhaps if you did you'd realize that once again you are talking without any knowledge on your side.

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Posted By: <b>Colt McClelland</b><p>Jim,<br /><br />I'll tell you what - I'll stop when you stop.

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Jim, you are so much like President Bush that I have decided that you will now be known as the GREAT UNITER. Or perhaps you like DECIDER IN CHIEF better?<br /><br />It's up to you. Just LMK in email so you don't have to post off topic anymore.

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Posted By: <b>DJ</b><p>Why did Colts friends e-mail Jim to tell Colt to quit...all Jim was going to do was tell Colt that his friends want him to quit when they could have just gone to Colt to tell him to quit themselves... Either way, fine drame for the lurkers.<br /><br />Sunday, go Colts! <br /><br />You are correct Barry on the title. <br /><br />I forgot all about Tee Set. That was a great song. Also forgot about Keller Williams "Panama Red", Sir Davis Quintet's "She's About A Mover", Ocean's "Put Your Hand In The Hand" and...ooo...Marmalade's "Reflections Of My Life". <br /><br />Someone got bit by a moose? How the hell? They appear so slow...was someone trying to aggrivate it? Is it on Youtube?<br /><br />Cornell was fine...but we're all "lucky" to have "luckey"<br /><br />DJ<br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>We apologise again for the fault in the subtitles. Those<br />responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked<br />have been sacked.

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Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Jeff,<br /><br />Ready to debate--you have my e-mail--my kids are off-limits though.

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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>Da Bears 27<br />Colts 24<br /><br />Grossman is not as bad as you think he is. He is not the greatest but even Brad Johnson won a Super Bowl at qb when he had a great defense with him. I am old school NFC(L) and always cheer for the teams from the original NFL. I know, I know, technically the Colts are the Baltimore Colts and played in the old NFL until wrenched away in to the AFC and then to Indy, but you know what I mean...

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Posted By: <b>RC McKenzie</b><p>To Todd's mention of Mungo Jerry... There is a rare record cover selling from the Russian Federation on ebay right now. "Have a drink, Have it Dry"...<br /><br /><br /><img src="http://i22.ebayimg.com/04/i/05/23/7b/a2_1.JPG"><br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Jim, my last comment on this thread: you and I have already debated, all throughout the day. You are the only one on this board who is not aware of the very clear result.

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Posted By: <b>john/z28jd</b><p> I dont think people realize whats at stake here. We need over 600 more responses in the next 44 minutes if we want that free ice cream from Uncle Leon.<br /><br /> One of the more important issues in this thread that is going unresolved is whether or not Leon has ever been referred to as either:<br />A- LL Cool J<br />B- Bean<br />C- Leaping Leon Poffo OR<br />D- All of the above<br /><br />One thing i noticed about all of our past dictators is they all had the double L in their name,eLLiot,BiLL corneLL and Leon Luckey. Gguess that means coLt mccLeLLand or jim crandeLL is next. Gentlemen if you may,please aLLow me to ask one question. How do you stand on the debate of whether the Ty Cobb back is part of the t206 set? Your answer could decide your future

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Jim's friends (sic) have all emailed me to tell me that they are begging him to quit.<br /><br />I am still saddened that Jim has not emailed me to decide what he wants to be known as in collector circles. <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Randy Trierweiler</b><p>I wonder what any newcomers to this board are thinking right now. <br /><br />How about someone visiting this board for the first time tonight? <br /><br />Think they will come back? <br /><br />I don't post a lot, but I've been visiting this board for 3 years plus. <br /><br />Our behavior tonight has been embarassing. <br /><br />We're acting like children, actually most children don't act this bad. <br /><br />This has been one pitiful day for Network 54<br /><br />Randy Trierweiler

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Posted By: <b>DD</b><p>In reference to LL, if there are any other comic book fans on the board, Leon should be called Superman. Back in the 60's, a recurring theme was LL in Superman comics. Lois Lane, Lana Lang, Lex Luthor, and several others.

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>Ok music guys.....who was the lead singer for The Raspberries? And what year was thier hit "Go All The Way?"

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I did my normal falling asleep on the couch for about 3 hours (sans drool this time <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> )and just woke up ...what did I miss? I see, not much. If I thought Jeff was bringing family into this I would delete any reference. It was a very passing remark but I will let everyone know that that is my number one pet peeve. I will not let anyone bring someone's family, in any way, shape, or form, into any argument on the board. I have a 0 tolerance policy for that. As for anything else I would hope we would keep politics and abortion issues off of the board. I have my own views but they aren't really for the board. I "try" to use common sense in everything I do and think ....but I have certainly been wrong in thinking some common sense things were common sense.... <br /><br />Randy T.- I sort of agree with you but I still think a thread like this, if it's the exception, and not the rule, isn't that bad. I could be wrong though....<br /><br />We really should wrap this up soon and get back to cards....take care all.....<br /><br /><br />edited spelling

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Posted By: <b>Colt McClelland</b><p>Eric Carmen (lead singer and also bass player). The year was 1972.<br /><br />Go All the Way was one of the all time one hit wonders. Great song.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p>Dan,<br /><br />Is that from the Holy Grail?<br /><br />Todd,<br /><br />I used to have that Bloodrock album... Sable and Pearl and a few others..

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Posted By: <b>Lee Behrens</b><p>This board has really detierated, how sad. What ever happened to this board being about vintage baseball cards?<br /><br />Lee<br />

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Posted By: <b>RC McKenzie</b><p>Lee,<br /><br />I dunno, the way I see it, this is sort of a parody thread. There is alot of great information on here as long as you don't click on this thread.<br />Take care.<br /><br /> I usually don't post in these sorts of threads but this one jumped the shark as one earlier astute poster noted above.<br />

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Posted By: <b>J Levine</b><p>...but...Jim, I really hope you don't have girls at home. I also really hope that they never ever start smoking, yell at their parents, stay out too late, get bad grades, hang with the wrong crowd, do any illegal drugs, drive drunk, get in the car with someone who is drunk, hitchhike, mistreat animals, have sex before marriage, get pregnant before marriage, get pregnant before they graduate middle school, get raped, get pregnant from said rape, have a health screening that finds them pregnant with a horrifically deformed child, have them end up infertile for any reason, get cancer, get any kind of disease like diabetes, parkinsons, ALS, MS, or any blood disorder or any other disease that might be cured by stem cell research, but most of all I really hope that they don't listen to the right wing, uninformed, biased, judgemental rantings of their father.<br /><br />Joshua (can you tell I had a long day)

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Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p>Lee,<br /><br />I think the whole idea behind this thread is to have it remain pointless.

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