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pariah1107 01-28-2016 11:17 AM

Damn, that is a L-O-N-G list!

jmb 01-28-2016 11:18 AM

Sure am glad I haven't bid in any auctions. I think I will appreciate a good ebay Buy It Now auction more from now on.

RichardSimon 01-28-2016 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by pariah1107 (Post 1496808)
Damn, that is a L-O-N-G list!

I am bleary eyed and my head is dizzy from all the nay shaking it is doing.

btcarfagno 01-28-2016 11:24 AM

Darryl Abramowitz?

Tom C

glchen 01-28-2016 11:24 AM

Seriously, out of control. I was probably naïve, but there were a lot more than I expected there. I don't even know how this is fixed in any auctions today even if the auction house does not own the auction software. Many of the shillers seemed to be friends and relatives of the consignor. So even with today's auctions, they would just have different accounts and would not be caught. Basically, the auction house (or ebay) is not directly involved in the shilling activities. However, they turn a blind eye to monitoring it.

bbcard1 01-28-2016 11:28 AM

During that time period I was busy keeping my business afloat and didn't bid in any auctions. Fortunately, if floated. That said, it has to be disheartening for those who were gouged.

TNP777 01-28-2016 11:30 AM

Makes me glad I collect on the low end of the hobby. If I chased high dollar-value cards and my name appeared as a victim, or if my account had been used to place a shill bid, I'd be furious.

iwantitiwinit 01-28-2016 11:31 AM

Totally disgusting.

bobbyw8469 01-28-2016 11:35 AM

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or if my account had been used to place a shill bid
Uhh....I think you would know if you shill bid or not. Besides...you've done a far worse thing.

TNP777 01-28-2016 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1496818)
Uhh....I think you would know if you shill bid or not.

Well, of course I would. However, there seems to be some belief that people inside Mastro used bidder accounts without their knowledge - perhaps inactive accounts?


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