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RichardSimon 02-04-2016 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenny Cole (Post 1500317)
Tom Morello is a guitar playing MF. He's awesome.

+1
I have seen him playing with Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band and he is an awesome guitar playing MF.

Kenny Cole 02-04-2016 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by tiger8mush (Post 1500320)
I'd had a couple of initial bids placed with Goldin prior to the list being posted here. I decided not to bid further after learning of his name being tagged as a shiller in the list.

Bravo. In my estimation, that is exactly what should change. Even given the "stuff trumps all" mentality many of us have, I really can't see what sense it makes to bid in an auction with an accused shiller who won't even respond to the accusations.

I cut Dave Kohler out after he screwed Ryan, Dave Kohler, Dave Kohler, Dave Kohler (for Ryan :)), because in my estimation, that situation was so obviously fraudulent that I couldn't even see another side. I counseled Ryan to sue his ass off. Ryan was nicer than I would have been. Since then I haven't even looked at one of his auctions. Nor have I missed it. I was sort of guarded about Goldin due to his past history, but I'm now out. I just really don't have time to buy from liars and thieves.

bcornell 02-04-2016 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenny Cole (Post 1500334)
Bravo. In my estimation, that is exactly what should change. Even given the "stuff trumps all" mentality many of us have, I really can't see what sense it makes to bid in an auction with an accused shiller who won't even respond to the accusations.

I cut Dave Kohler out after he screwed Ryan

Exactly right. And, I had almost forgotten about that sordid episode with SCP. Luckily, there are links

How to get ripped off by SCP Auctions & Sotheby's

bonus SCP thread: An open letter to SCP auctions

Sure, it was a 'long time ago'. Leopards change their spots.

Beastmode 02-04-2016 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by HRBAKER (Post 1500251)
So does all of this light and noise change anything?

If you're still placing max bids on proprietary AH software where you can't snipe, and the auctions ends multiple times past midnight, and the AH is affiliated with the shill list, you either need a stupidity intervention or you have so much money you don't care.

IMO, that was the case before and after this shill list. The never ending auctions is by design, so the AH can see your max bid. What else needs to happen before buyers figure this out?

Beastmode 02-04-2016 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bcornell (Post 1500340)
Exactly right. And, I had almost forgotten about that sordid episode with SCP. Luckily, there are links

How to get ripped off by SCP Auctions & Sotheby's

bonus SCP thread: An open letter to SCP auctions

Sure, it was a 'long time ago'. Leopards change their spots.


Wow. Absolute BS.

Kenny Cole 02-04-2016 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bcornell (Post 1500340)
Exactly right. And, I had almost forgotten about that sordid episode with SCP. Luckily, there are links

How to get ripped off by SCP Auctions & Sotheby's

bonus SCP thread: An open letter to SCP auctions

Sure, it was a 'long time ago'. Leopards change their spots.

Thank you Bill. Given this conversation it deserves to be brought up.

TheNightmanCometh 02-05-2016 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by bcornell (Post 1500340)
Exactly right. And, I had almost forgotten about that sordid episode with SCP. Luckily, there are links

How to get ripped off by SCP Auctions & Sotheby's

bonus SCP thread: An open letter to SCP auctions

Sure, it was a 'long time ago'. Leopards change their spots.

I'm sure the answer is no, but was the issue with the photo ever resolved?

SyrNy1960 02-05-2016 03:14 AM

:rolleyes:

tiger8mush 02-05-2016 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Beastmode (Post 1500342)
IMO, that was the case before and after this shill list. The never ending auctions is by design, so the AH can see your max bid. What else needs to happen before buyers figure this out?

I left 3 max bids with Sterling last night around midnight. Woke up this morning to find I was outbid on one. The other two didn't have another bid placed on them after my bids, and were multiple bids shorts of my max.

Snapolit1 02-05-2016 06:18 AM

Same here. That's what will make me come back to an AH. I won't get into bidding wars with any place linked to fraud. Won't do it. Not saying I will never bid on their stuff, but will be very cognizant that the person bidding against me could be a fraud.


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