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thetahat 05-07-2023 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2338111)
The photo is on the pennant…there is no cut out…thus, I can’t see the back.

Very interesting. As is the “WC” near the upper left corner of the pic. Has that been discussed before? We need Domer to check in. Could this be ASCO/Button House? Mystery company? It is radically different than Trenches from that period.

ooo-ribay 05-07-2023 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2338168)
Very interesting. As is the “WC” near the upper left corner of the pic. Has that been discussed before? We need Domer to check in. Could this be ASCO/Button House? Mystery company? It is radically different than Trenches from that period.

WC = West Coast Concessionaires, per Domer. Yes, this was discussed. I'm not sure whether the WC is seen on pennants of other West Coast teams.

As for the maker, I'm not sure I've ever considered it. Perhaps bocca has. The WC was also seen on the "stamped" 1962 pennant. I have an un-stamped version also with the WC but I have another without it (shown). That guy on those pennants was also seen on many of the Giants stadium pennants, along with the "cartoon font" of the 1962 picture pennant (but no WC). Same maker for all?

bocca001 05-07-2023 04:20 PM

I'm pretty sure that the WC came up in Kyle's conversation with the Trench guy, which makes it a high likelihood that they are Trench. I guess maybe WC could have had someone else make pennants for them?

perezfan 05-08-2023 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2338182)
WC = West Coast Concessionaires, per Domer. Yes, this was discussed. I'm not sure whether the WC is seen on pennants of other West Coast teams.

As for the maker, I'm not sure I've ever considered it. Perhaps bocca has. The WC was also seen on the "stamped" 1962 pennant. I have an un-stamped version also with the WC but I have another without it (shown). That guy on those pennants was also seen on many of the Giants stadium pennants, along with the "cartoon font" of the 1962 picture pennant (but no WC). Same maker for all?

Those are awesome, Rob...

Also interesting is how the 2nd pennant has such different spine and tassels from the others.

bocca001 05-08-2023 06:19 AM

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It took me some time to find this pennant (thanks, Erik). When I first saw it in Rob's collection, the colors/tassels made me think it was some kind of modern reproduction. But it is not. And it is tough to find.

thetahat 05-08-2023 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 2338296)
Those are awesome, Rob...

Also interesting is how the 2nd pennant has such different spine and tassels from the others.

Yes it’s a cloth spine and cloth tassels … very rare for Trench … I will bet that the stitching is “doubled” like that of Ad Flag and Keezer. I’m sure there has to be a name for the type of stitch. There was a brief amount of time that Trench-appearing pennants were made like this. Here’s an example of one of mine with all the same characteristics that I once wondered might be a knock-off …

thetahat 05-08-2023 07:26 AM

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bocca001 05-08-2023 08:43 PM

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I know this is not everyone's jam, but this pennant is hen's teeth rare. Super Bowl XVI bootleg that Oooribay helped me track down. Both beautiful and ugly at the same time. Pennant folk art. This was probably number 1.25 on my want list. Love the horrible helmet graphic and having all of the player names. I'm pretty sure it is from 1982.

Domer05 05-08-2023 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2338063)
It sure looks like ASCO. The ‘VET’ pennants also look like ASCO. Did Madaras absorb ASCO or something?

See my post #5630 ... where I shared more than anyone would care to read about Madaras, Inc ;)

Bottom line: Madaras was a short-lived pennant maker founded by ex-ASCO employees in Winona, MN after ASCO was sold to Campbell-Mithune. It was only around from 1973-74.

Domer05 05-08-2023 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 2338197)
I'm pretty sure that the WC came up in Kyle's conversation with the Trench guy, which makes it a high likelihood that they are Trench. I guess maybe WC could have had someone else make pennants for them?

See my post #4847.

WC = West Coast Novelty Co. They ran concessions at several locations in the San Francisco Bay area, including California's Memorial Stadium in Berkeley. They never made pennants; and, as far as I can tell, all of their pennants were produced by Trench.


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