Here's one without the Pin, Hank...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/17532240438...3ABFBM7NaaruFh

Although probably just a generic doll, to which someone added the Reds Pin. Not a true Reds Doll, unfortunately.

Why would you be so sure about that, unless you think the doll and pin are of different eras altogether? My doll came with the pin hanging from the neck in a similar fashion, but the pin was upside down so I took it off and pinned it right-side-up. I got mine at a National from pennant and pin dealer Rick Haskins, who had a bunch of similar college dolls/pins and maybe some pro teams, too. Do we know who made these dolls, and I wonder if there are any depicted in manufacturer catalogs? Why don't you start a kewpie thread looking for your Cincy example?

Greg has got to be pulling his hair out... :p

Here's my last word on "kewpie dolls" (at least in this thread).... I think the ones you would want are the ones that came with the pins. There were definitely dolls and pins put together later. My "best' dolls have a crude SF on the cap, "Giants" stenciled on the chest and are of the proper black and orange color scheme. I think the "right" ones (as shown in this picture from a 1964 merchandise mailer) have a doubled up ribbon, held in place by the pinback's pin, which is looped through an elastic band around the doll's neck.

P.S. sure wish I had a dozen of those "correct signature" Mays nodders, at a buck and a half apiece.

Hank…

They were sold both generic and with the team insignia on the cap and the breast. The one I linked above is on eBay, and is not mine. It may well have originally come that way from the vendor. We will probably never know.

I do not own a Reds one. I used to have one with a wishbone “C” on the cap and also stenciled on his chest. I did not pursue the one on eBay because it’s a generic doll that could’ve been used for any team that wears a red uniform (Reds, Cardinals, Phillies, Red Sox, etc.). I personally would opt for one with the Reds’ team insignia on the uniform and hat.

That’s just me and possibly my OCD I’m afraid. There is no better seller than Rick Haskins, so if he said yours is legit, I’m sure it is. Bottom line is that they came both ways.

Hope these Kewpies are enjoying their 15 minutes of fame on this thread!

How bout this guy?

No kidding! Whose mailer is that? And that's exactly how my Amherst kewpie was when I bought it from Rick, so that seems to be the "standard" issue of origin. No doubt secondary dealers later made their own configurations with a team or college pin to enhance the value of kewpies on their own without one, but it might also be the case that virtually all these dolls came with pins and ribbons originally and had the right color scheme to represent the team or college named on the pin. They are so rare I guess nobody will ever bother to try to catalogue them, but I find them almost as appealing as the nodders, perhaps even more so due to that very rarity.

Wow, now we're talking!

I agree 100% about Rick, he's as good as it gets in the hobby: always with great stuff at reasonable prices, and pleasant as he could be. I doubt, however, that he made any claims about his collection of kewpies, but just presented them for sale. It wasn't hard for me to see that the Amherst kewpie had colors close enough to that colleges purple and white scheme, though, and with the pin secured around the neck like the others he had, if memory serves correctly, it wasn't hard for me to surmise that the entire assemblage was made to represent Amherst and not something cobbled together later. I don't remember what I paid, but I do seem to recall that it wasn't much at all, maybe $25 or such. Now I wish, of course, that I'd bought all he had, maybe ten in all.

Thanks! I wonder if that's a record price for a standard size nodder?