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hcv123 05-29-2018 09:30 PM

Completely
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by docpatlv (Post 1781787)
Nice Bazooka boxes Howard!

How come I’ve read that the 1971 Bazooka no number is tougher than the numbered version, but I always see the unnumbered version? Was that erroneous information?

That I am aware of there is no such thing as a numbered complete box. I have seen a number (pun intended) of no number 1971 boxes. The 1971 Bazooka numbered was a test of some sort and definitely issued in smaller quantities than the numbered version. I have owned/seen panels and singles of the numbered version.

The Bazookas I own are one of my pride and joy's! Many do not know that there are 2 different size boxes for most years - a 25 piece box (like those shown and a 20 piece box - will eventually post a scan). Interestingly in my experience different years prove more elusive in different sizes - 1962 for example - the 25 piece box while far from easy to find is obtainable (with patience and money) - on the other hand - as mentioned in my last post - I own the only 20 piece box I have ever seen with Clemente. 1968 and 1971 were only issued as 25 piece boxes (that I am aware of). A 1960 complete box is my white whale! Combing some of the biggest collections ever sold (Copeland, Halper and others), Speaking to dealers and collectors across the country - I have yet to even see proof that one exists - I have boxes with other players from 1960 - so I pray one day............I can complete my Bazooka complete box run with a 1960 Clemente complete box.

Empty77 05-29-2018 10:10 PM

you weren't kidding, excellent looking boxes Howard.

71buc 05-29-2018 10:47 PM

Great boxes Howard those are a thing of beauty

docpatlv 05-30-2018 06:56 AM

Day 151


I used to see this next item on a fairly regular basis 10-15 years ago, but they seem to be offered very seldom nowadays.


1973 Caruth Candy cylinder bank...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...menteBankA.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...menteBankB.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...menteBankC.jpg

quitcrab 05-30-2018 04:58 PM

Howard
I know a full 1971 numbered bazooka Willie Mays box exist. Scott

docpatlv 05-31-2018 09:55 AM

Day 152


1961 Pittsburgh Pirates placemat...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...esPlacemat.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...cematClose.jpg

hcv123 05-31-2018 09:53 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by quitcrab (Post 1782004)
Howard
I know a full 1971 numbered bazooka Willie Mays box exist. Scott

I would have to see that to believe it. I owned an uncut sheet as well as a panel set that I believe originated from Woody Gelman. Interestingly and perhaps related to your post - The Mays on the uncut sheet is printed as part of the box proof - making it theoretically possible to cut it out in a way that would allow you to assemble a box from it. That said, the time it would take and the needed precision of multiple cuts and folds I submit would be prohibitively time consuming.......so, that said - do you have pictures?

quitcrab 06-01-2018 06:06 PM

You are correct Howard...it came from the bazooka sheet. I don't have a picture but I have seen the Mays box in it's 3d state. I think it was made by Topps back in 71, not someone cutting by hand from the sheet. I may be wrong but Bob may own it.

docpatlv 06-01-2018 09:23 PM

Day 153


1971 Team Issued glossy photo (4x6)...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...ssueGlossy.jpg

bobsbbcards 06-02-2018 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quitcrab (Post 1782689)
...I may be wrong but Bob may own it.

I have a panel, but not a box.

http://www.bobsbbcards.com/images/ba...64748Panel.jpg

quitcrab 06-02-2018 06:48 AM

Ok maybe that's what I saw years ago. The Mays numbered panel.

rats60 06-02-2018 09:23 AM

So were the numbered 71 Bazookas never issued but cut off of sheets?

docpatlv 06-02-2018 11:45 AM

Day 154


I am 99.9% sure that Roberto is at the far right of the photo. I did do a little research in the past and the only other player this could have been is Earl Francis. But based on the body posture, I think it's Clemente.


1963 Pirates snapshot photo...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...ratesPhoto.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...toClemente.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...ementeZoom.jpg

71buc 06-02-2018 01:46 PM

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I agree that’s Roberto I think it’s April 9, 1963 opening day at Forbes. I posted this photo earlier. Clemente and Maz getting gold gloves and braves are seen milling around in the background.

docpatlv 06-02-2018 06:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 71buc (Post 1782965)
I agree that’s Roberto I think it’s April 9, 1963 opening day at Forbes. I posted this photo earlier. Clemente and Maz getting gold gloves and braves are seen milling around in the background.

I think You may be right Mike. That’s a great photo, but the first time I read your post, I read it as Clemente and Mazeroski receiving “old” gloves, lol.

hcv123 06-02-2018 07:55 PM

I believe so
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rats60 (Post 1782856)
So were the numbered 71 Bazookas never issued but cut off of sheets?

I used to see quite a few numbered singles that were clearly hand cut and unfortunately very sloppily. I have never seen a complete assembled box flattened or otherwise. I do believe all panels originated from and were cut from sheets.

geosluggo 06-03-2018 05:55 AM

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Some Associated Press head shots

hcv123 06-03-2018 07:58 PM

Nice George!
 
Thanks for sharing

docpatlv 06-03-2018 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geosluggo (Post 1783117)
Some Associated Press head shots


Good stuff George!


Day 155


Mike posted one of these earlier in the thread. An eBay seller has listed a bunch of these over the last couple of months. Not one of the best he has offered, but some of the nicer images went higher than I wanted to go.

1972 35mm color slide...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...ColorSlide.jpg

docpatlv 06-04-2018 07:47 AM

Day 156


This next item is one I was burned on in my earlier days collecting Roberto. I purchased it off eBay in the mid 90s, framed it myself, and had it in my collection for a few years before I realized the signature was no good. One day I was looking at some of my Clemente items and noticed that the facsimile signature on the 1971 Arco photo matched the signature on my signed piece. I kept it as a reminder to be more careful when purchasing RC signatures. Over the past 20-plus years, I feel as though I have become much more competent in determining authentic signatures.


1960 Robert Riger print with forged signature:mad:...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...obertRiger.jpg

docpatlv 06-04-2018 07:47 AM

duplicate post...WTF

hcv123 06-04-2018 09:05 PM

VEry interesting
 
I got burned once on the item itself which was reprinted much later( smaller and darker than original)!! Likely a much less costly mistake than the signed one, but not a happy experience nonetheless.

geosluggo 06-05-2018 05:34 AM

Clemente AP photos -- 1969
 
2 Attachment(s)
A shot from spring training and one from Forbes Field (with newspaper crop marks in grease pencil)

docpatlv 06-05-2018 08:09 AM

Day 157


1968 Dexter Press...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...exterPress.jpghttps://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...terPressBk.jpg

docpatlv 06-05-2018 08:09 AM

duplicate post (anyone have any idea why it keeps doing this???)

JollyElm 06-05-2018 02:54 PM

That 1968 Dexter Press gave me a hearty chuckle. The way it's simply 'signed' Roberto at the bottom gives the illusion he wrote all of that glowing praise about himself, like he was sending a note to a friend. Ha ha.

docpatlv 06-06-2018 08:42 AM

Day 158



Not sure why, but this next item doesn't seem to readily available. I've only seen a couple listed on eBay over the last year or so.



1979 Dexter Press postcard...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...terPressPC.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...rPressPCBk.jpg

docpatlv 06-07-2018 09:44 AM

Day 159


1961 Baseball Digest...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...61BBDigest.jpg

Mickey Mays 06-08-2018 03:23 PM

1 Attachment(s)
1968 Topps 10x18 Poster

Attachment 318875

docpatlv 06-08-2018 09:47 PM

Day 160


1963 Topps cards...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat.../1963Topps.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...963ToppsBk.jpg

docpatlv 06-09-2018 08:02 AM

Day 161


The next 3 items were issued ca. 2012. They are HOF plaque pinbacks that I believe were awarded/given out at a Little League tournament in California. There are 3 color variations. They are pretty large for pins, 3"x4", and are very HEAVY. Not sure how they could've actually been worn without pulling your shirt off.


2012 Little League HOF plaque pins (set of 3)...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...LeaguePins.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...ePinsPhoto.jpg


And the next pin I believe was given out to the press during the 2017 Roberto Clemente award presentation (awarded to Anthony Rizzo).


2017 Roberto Clemente Award pin...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...rdPressPin.jpg

docpatlv 06-10-2018 12:17 PM

Day 162


1966 Famous Slugger Yearbook...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...erYearbook.jpg

docpatlv 06-11-2018 10:34 AM

Day 163


1968 Famous Slugger Yearbooks...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...rYearbooks.jpg

docpatlv 06-12-2018 09:42 AM

Day 164


1970s Roberto Clemente business card...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...sinessCard.jpg


ca. 2000s Vera Clemente business cards...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...inessCards.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...essCardsBk.jpg

Mark70Z 06-12-2018 05:04 PM

Famous Slugger
 
REALLY LIKE the Famous Slugger Yearbooks. The odd ball publications are some of my favorites (I have no idea why...).

docpatlv 06-13-2018 08:21 AM

Day 165


1972 The Sporting News...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...te/1972TSN.jpg

docpatlv 06-14-2018 09:05 AM

Day 166


1973 Esso Coin...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...73EssoCoin.jpg

docpatlv 06-15-2018 09:36 PM

Day 167


1971 Iron City Beer photo...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...yBeerPhoto.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...eerPhotoBk.jpg

docpatlv 06-16-2018 02:42 PM

Day 168


1960s Coke cap...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...60sCokeCap.jpg

hcv123 06-16-2018 07:57 PM

Not "just" coke
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by docpatlv (Post 1787205)

That is "King Size Coke" - MUCH tougher than a "regular" coke cap. There are many flavor and bottling plant variations on those bottle caps.

docpatlv 06-17-2018 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hcv123 (Post 1787278)
That is "King Size Coke" - MUCH tougher than a "regular" coke cap. There are many flavor and bottling plant variations on those bottle caps.


Thanks for the info.



Day 169


1961 Post...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...e/1961Post.jpg

docpatlv 06-18-2018 09:34 AM

Day 170


1962 Post Red & Blue line variations...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...RedandBLue.jpg

docpatlv 06-19-2018 10:05 AM

Day 171


1963 Post...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...e/1963Post.jpg

docpatlv 06-20-2018 08:09 AM

Day 172


1970s Con Edison book cover...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...nBookCover.jpg

JollyElm 06-20-2018 03:25 PM

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Thought I'd add this one to the thread: 1970 Topps wildy miscut Clemente card.

Attachment 320339

docpatlv 06-20-2018 06:36 PM

I like that miscut Darren, thanks for sharing!

hcv123 06-20-2018 08:27 PM

The missing card....
 
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Anyone have any blank backs to post??

docpatlv 06-21-2018 11:23 AM

Howard,

I have a couple of blank backs I'll post later in this thread.


Day 173


The Baseball Digest's with Roberto on the cover are easy enough to find, but this next item is the only copy of this Baseball Digest magazine I have ever seen.


1972 Baseball Digest (Special Edition)...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...ialEdition.jpg

hcv123 06-21-2018 07:58 PM

You did it again!
 
I've never seen that one either!!



Quote:

Originally Posted by docpatlv (Post 1788562)
Howard,

I have a couple of blank backs I'll post later in this thread.


Day 173


The Baseball Digest's with Roberto on the cover are easy enough to find, but this next item is the only copy of this Baseball Digest magazine I have ever seen.


1972 Baseball Digest (Special Edition)...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...ialEdition.jpg


docpatlv 06-22-2018 07:42 PM

Day 174


1971 Tips Booklet...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...aldqusTips.jpg

Mark70Z 06-23-2018 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hcv123 (Post 1788762)
I've never seen that one either!!

Me either! Elrod doesn’t look to happy...

docpatlv 06-23-2018 09:13 PM

Day 175


1972 7-11 Slurpee Cup...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...972Cup7-11.jpg


There was a lot of 5-6 1972 Slurpee checklist sheets that were auctioned off on eBay within the last 6 mos (I think) that I was an underbidder on. If the winner is a board member and would like to sell one, I would be a buyer.

Jeff Alcorn 06-23-2018 09:19 PM

Hi Guys,

Regarding the photo of Clemente and Mazeroski receiving their Gold Glove Awards, this cannot have been taken in 1963. Pat Jarvis of the Atlanta Braves is walking by in the background, and the Braves did not move to Atlanta until 1966.

My suggestion is that the picture was probably taken on Saturday May 13, 1967 which was during the first of the Braves 3 visits to Pittsburgh that season. Also, it looks like Clemente's 1966 N.L. MVP Award is on the table, so it seems that this was the award presentation day for the Pirates. I would also conjecture that Gene Alley is standing next to Mazeroski since he also won a Gold Glove for 1966.

It would seem that the presence of the MVP Award would pinpoint the picture to 1967, and a Saturday day game seems the most likely to schedule for the ceremony.

Hope this information is useful, and thanks for all the great Clemente items that have been shown so far.

Jeff

71buc 06-23-2018 11:31 PM

Jeff I think you are correct.

docpatlv 06-24-2018 08:12 PM

Day 176


1964 Topps...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat.../1964Topps.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...964ToppsBk.jpg

docpatlv 06-25-2018 07:52 AM

Day 177


1959 Pirates Team Signed baseball (signed "Bob" Clemente)...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...9B6E1322E.jpeg

docpatlv 06-26-2018 09:13 AM

Day 178


This next item shows some Pirates players with their families in June 1972. What I love about this photo is Roberto is pictured with Vera and their three sons in Pirates uniforms.


1972 Snapshot photo...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...shotFamily.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...amilyClose.jpg

71buc 06-26-2018 12:36 PM

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Here's another from the same day sans Roberto.

docpatlv 06-26-2018 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 71buc (Post 1790010)
Here's another from the same day sans Roberto.


Mike,

Do you know what the event was?

71buc 06-26-2018 03:11 PM

My understanding is that it was an annual father's son's ball game at Three Rivers. The photo I posted originated originated from Steve Blass' personal collection.

Mark70Z 06-26-2018 04:38 PM

Padres vs. Pirates
 
Believe the snapshot/s were taken on June 18, 1972.

docpatlv 06-27-2018 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark70Z (Post 1790074)
Believe the snapshot/s were taken on June 18, 1972.


Thanks Mark, how were you able to pinpoint the date?


Day 179


1964 Topps coins...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...4ToppsCoin.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...oppsCoinAS.jpg

docpatlv 06-28-2018 07:07 AM

Day 180


1977 Sertoma Stars uncut sheet (Fatima Pirates Team back)...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...UncutSheet.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...cutSheetBk.jpg

quitcrab 06-28-2018 09:10 AM

Looking at the full sheet... Is Chico Ruiz really a star? .240 average and 2 HRs
No doubt Roberto belongs!

docpatlv 06-28-2018 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quitcrab (Post 1790476)
Looking at the full sheet... Is Chico Ruiz really a star? .240 average and 2 HRs
No doubt Roberto belongs!


Definitely some questionable inclusions on there lol

Mark70Z 06-28-2018 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by docpatlv (Post 1790173)
Thanks Mark, how were you able to pinpoint the date?

There’s a relatively famous photo of Clemente with his kids taken by SI photographer Neil Leifer that was taken at the stadium that day. Think it’s more than likely from the same day the snapshots were taken.

docpatlv 06-29-2018 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark70Z (Post 1790665)
There’s a relatively famous photo of Clemente with his kids taken by SI photographer Neil Leifer that was taken at the stadium that day. Think it’s more than likely from the same day the snapshots were taken.


Thanks for the info Mark.


Day 181


1962 Jello...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat.../1962Jello.jpg

docpatlv 06-30-2018 09:27 PM

Day 182


1963 Jello...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat.../1963Jello.jpg

docpatlv 07-01-2018 04:50 PM

Day 183


1962 Post Canadian...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...stCanadian.jpg

docpatlv 07-02-2018 06:59 AM

Day 184


1964 Topps Giant...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...ToppsGiant.jpg

quitcrab 07-02-2018 09:25 AM

1964 Giants are beautiful ! If they were regular size it maybe one of the Topps most collected sets of the 60s. The color, photography, and design are so well done. Let's not forget the backs with another photo of the star and a great write up. the only card missing is Roger Maris. Not sure why he wasn't included.

docpatlv 07-02-2018 10:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quitcrab (Post 1791499)
1964 Giants are beautiful ! If they were regular size it maybe one of the Topps most collected sets of the 60s. The color, photography, and design are so well done. Let's not forget the backs with another photo of the star and a great write up. the only card missing is Roger Maris. Not sure why he wasn't included.

Agreed, a friend of mine once had a signed set of these.

docpatlv 07-03-2018 08:46 AM

Day 185


1962 Topps Stamp Panel...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...StampPanel.jpg

Mark70Z 07-03-2018 04:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by docpatlv (Post 1791763)

WOW! That ‘62 stamp panel looks brand new...

docpatlv 07-03-2018 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark70Z (Post 1791911)
WOW! That ‘62 stamp panel looks brand new...


Thanks Mark. I think Roberto is paired with someone else (Battey?) on a different panel, but I dont have that one.

Mark70Z 07-04-2018 06:52 PM

1962 Stamp Panel
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by docpatlv (Post 1791986)
Thanks Mark. I think Roberto is paired with someone else (Battey?) on a different panel, but I dont have that one.

Yes; he’s on w/Earl Battey as well. Brooks is on three different panels for ‘62; I’m missing one of them w/Jack Baldschun.

docpatlv 07-04-2018 09:09 PM

Day 186


1990s Romito Figure, Sales sheet and Magazine...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...0sRomitoLg.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...SaleSheet1.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...ingFigures.jpg

docpatlv 07-05-2018 12:56 PM

Day 187


1961 Kahn's...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat.../1961Kahns.jpg

docpatlv 07-06-2018 08:21 PM

Day 188


1970s Team issue (textured paper)...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...eTextured1.jpg

docpatlv 07-08-2018 04:37 PM

Day 189


1970 Team Issued photo...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...0TeamIssue.jpg


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