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Originally Posted by theshleps (Post 1298427)

What do you think? Is it a 1947 or later
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1947-JACKIE-...item35d97b133a

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Originally Posted by Archive (Post 667468)

Posted By: Ted ZanidakisHere is the Walker Cooper card that I noted in the initial post here. It was never included in the original 1947 Bond Bread (ROUND cornered cards) issue. And, this fact tells us that indeed there was a subsequent (SQUARE cornered cards) issue....totally unrelated to the 1947 Bond Bread issue. <a href="http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/message/1193714837/last-1195061538/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/message/1193714837/last-1195061538/</a> Another factor telling us that these 2 issues (the 1947 and the "1949") are unrelated....is why are all 48 original cards not available in the SQUARE version ? Only 24 of the BB cards and two of the Boxing cards from the 1947 set are in the SQUARE version. And, added in the SQUARE version was Walker Cooper. I do not claim to be an expert regarding these SQUARE cards. They are a real "mystery" to most in the hobby. And, I do not know of anyone that can solve this mystery. Any new thoughts on this subject are greatly appreciated. TED Z

When the square-cornered versions came out in the '90's, there were opinions expressed that someone had found the original printing plates, and recenty ran off some more of at least select cards. I have the Mize and Kiner, acquired during that time period. Those do show the characteristic regular dot pattern which is consistent with them having been made from the original plates.

Best,

Larry

Some more perforated cards, and proof that the Hess Shoes was just a back stamp:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...orated%205.JPG
http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...orated%207.JPG
http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...rated%2012.JPG

Elgee says 46 cards of sports, Hollywood and cowboys and we know there are 44 ballplayers, 4 boxers and a bunch of actors potentially available. The ad looks to be 2 cards wide. I suspect there are at least two sheets, maybe more. Leon shows the Holmes with a FB player back, but the Holmes I am getting has actor Van Johnson on the back, and all three of the ad cards have different cowboy fronts. The group I purchased breaks down as follows:

Jackie Robinson/James Cagney
Pee Wee Reese/Western Back
Larry Jansen/Western Back
Harry Brecheen/Western Back
Rex Barney/Western Back
Bruce Edwards/Western Back
Buddy Kerr/Western Back
Roy Rogers/Western Back
Cary Grant/Western Back
Sheldon Jones/Western Back
Willard Marshall/Western Back
Tommy Holmes/Van Johnson
Claudette Colbert/Western Back
Ginger Roberts/Western Back
Gregory Peck/Western Back
Jennifer Jones/Western Back
Katherine Hepburn/Western Back
Lon McCallister/Western Back
Sonja Heine/Western Back
Western Front w/ Three Men/Ad Back
Western Front w/Two Men/Ad Back
Western Front w/One Man/Ad Back

Maybe we can take a shot at a master list?

Exhibitman, congrats on the group. I bid fairly heavily on this auction as well.

As far as your master list, I have one card I can add:

Ted Williams Front/Babe Zaharias back (have seen 3 of these, but no other combo with either Ted or Babe)

Dave

I was able to piece together a partial sheet. Definitely 4 cards across.

Can't believe I missed that auction! If you ever decide to sell the Robinson, please let me know.

Amazing lot!

If I sell Robby it would be an auction because I have no idea how to price one.

I asked this two years ago and going to try again in hope of getting a clear answer.

What is the conclusion to the designation of the square cornered baseball issues? 47 Bond, 47 Homogenizied or something else?

Thanks

Lee

Hi Lee

The Square cards were issued in 1948 or 1949 and marketed as "Sports Star Subjects". The proof of this issue date(s) is the inclusion of the Walker Cooper card
as a NY Giant (this subject was not in the original 1947 Bond Bread issue). Furthermore, Cooper was traded to Cinci in the Summer of '49.

The Sports Star Subjects set of 48 (SQUARE) cards were sold in 4 boxes of 12 cards each.

TED Z
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Thanks for clearing this up, Ted

Lee