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thetahat 11-20-2022 09:13 AM

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This is good! We may not be able to fully convince each other but it’s nice to discuss. Now that LA Dodgers pennant is interesting to me, look how LOS ANGELES is written. One of our Giants collectors (or both?) has a green SF Giants pennant with gold print that is similar to the one pictured here and if my memory is correct it’s the same unique style font used to write SAN FRANCISCO. I can’t find a pic, maybe they can help.

What strikes me is how the wide spine and thin tassels are identical in all of these pennants. The fact that the tassels are made of the same exact felt and are same color as the body of the pennant. I suggest that the more likely scenario is that WGN simply made some with tassels and some without, at the same time. We know that Trench has done this in the late 50s.

thetahat 11-20-2022 09:45 AM

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This too, I think, is a late 40s WGN

bocca001 11-20-2022 11:48 AM

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Here is the SF Giants

thetahat 11-20-2022 12:07 PM

Thanks Marc. Yes, the font in the city name is identical to that of the pictured LA Dodgers. But the giant graphic is that of an older NYG made (presumably) by WGN.

thetahat 11-20-2022 06:21 PM

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Okay now for a counter-example. These two 1954 Indians pennants have every indication that they were made by different companies. The dancing Indian seems Trench and Chief Wahoo looks like WGN or at least “not Trench”. That is, if you consider the construction of each. (Spine, tassels, etc).

The rosters, however, are identical. The font is definitely Trench as can be seen in their other scroll pennants.

So I’m baffled by these …

On another note, boy is there a bunch of beautiful ‘54 Indians pennants …

(I don’t own these exact pennants, the top one I have in a different color.)

ooo-ribay 11-20-2022 07:21 PM

Greg, Kyle and Mark need to spearhead a coffee table type pennant book. The rest of us can chip in. :p

Domer05 11-20-2022 09:04 PM

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No argument from me on the connection between the first two LA Dodger and SF Giant pennants below. Same distinctive "A" and "S" used in both city scripts. Same construction. Therefore, Greg, I agree: they were likely made by the same maker.

But, if that maker was WGN, then that does not answer why these two pennants look nothing like others we're 100% certain were by WGN from that year. And that, to me, is where the comparison falls apart....

Here's two 1958-dated LA Dodger and SF Giant pennants we know for certain to be by WGN. And another from later that year for the Milwaukee Braves. As you can see, these last three are nothing like the first two. So, that's why I think their maker may be someone else.

Good discussion! :)

ooo-ribay 11-21-2022 06:09 AM

^^^^ based on the “artwork” of the top two, I can’t imagine those were done by WGN….unless WGN once had a “Bring Your Kids to Work Day.”

thetahat 11-21-2022 04:16 PM

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Here are some 1958-59 pennants. (None of which I own.) First two seem to be WGN based on past logos. The others?

thetahat 11-21-2022 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 2285630)
No argument from me on the connection between the first two LA Dodger and SF Giant pennants below. Same distinctive "A" and "S" used in both city scripts. Same construction. Therefore, Greg, I agree: they were likely made by the same maker.

But, if that maker was WGN, then that does not answer why these two pennants look nothing like others we're 100% certain were by WGN from that year. And that, to me, is where the comparison falls apart....

Here's two 1958-dated LA Dodger and SF Giant pennants we know for certain to be by WGN. And another from later that year for the Milwaukee Braves. As you can see, these last three are nothing like the first two. So, that's why I think their maker may be someone else.

Good discussion! :)

Could it be that the 1958 LAD and SFG were really 1960s pennants? That the year is simply a reference to their inaugural season? I dunno, just speculating …


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