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bocca001 10-26-2022 05:13 AM

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Right on! I knew you'd have some answers for us from the football side of the house.

Is this Bills pennant full size? Marc's 1964 catalogue suggests that Keezer's/American Knitwear's offering was limited solely to 5" x 12" minis. (No mention of any other sizes.)

The Oilers I have above is full size, and identical in design to the 5 x 12. As rare as the minis are, the full size ones seem even more rare. I think I've seen the Oilers and the Packers. Fballguy has a pic of a packers fan with one at a Super Bowl. And I think Mark has/had the Steelers. That's all I've seen.

I'd think that the Bills above is older, and not part of the same series. It does not match style wise.

Edited: So, I just found a copy of the Bills mini pennant on Worthpoint. See below. And it has an American Knitwear stamp. So, I guess that answers that for the mini pennants (and their large counterparts). Not sure about Fballguy's Bills pennant.

UKCardGuy 10-26-2022 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 2277072)
Also found the white sox

That's a really nice pennant. I love the look of it.

Are those Baseball Keezer pennants mini pennants like the football or full size?

ooo-ribay 10-26-2022 06:00 AM

JR has a different Keezer Yankees on ebay than the one shown in Erik’s collage. It’s rough.

Fballguy 10-26-2022 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 2277495)
Right on! I knew you'd have some answers for us from the football side of the house.

Is this Bills pennant full size? Marc's 1964 catalogue suggests that Keezer's/American Knitwear's offering was limited solely to 5" x 12" minis. (No mention of any other sizes.)

Yes...Full size. I can send exact measurements and a pic of the stamp when I get home this weekend. I didn't compare the stamp to baseball Keezers I have, but at first glance it looks just like the baseball stamp. Not sure if the stamp evolved over the years.

Marc...Your large Oilers and my Bills have the same stiff non-"felt" tassels.

bocca001 10-26-2022 07:46 AM

That strange tassel material (and sometimes spines) seems to suggest that they came from the same era, probably early 1960s.

Gary- the baseball Keezer ones I have been posting (e.g., White Sox) are full size.

bocca001 10-26-2022 09:18 AM

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These are all stamped American Knitwear. All mini pennants.

Domer05 10-26-2022 08:47 PM

Wow, nice find Marc. Who knew all you had to do was search for "American Knitwear" (rather than Keezer) pennants?

Domer05 10-26-2022 10:05 PM

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That Pirate mini is different from the normal, full size Pirate we always associated with Keezer. Come to think of it, it seems awfully consistent with Marc's SF Giants pennant, bearing no mark, but believed to be by Keezer/American Knitwear.

Both are 5" x 12".

Doesn't this suggest there's a whole set of baseball 5" x 12" minis by Keezer/American Knitwear with new artwork, not seen on older full size Keezers?

erikc21 10-27-2022 09:57 PM

Hey, pennant guys
 
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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 2277463)
Erik- in my opinion, the football Keezer pennants are similar to this Astros pennant (which also has no Keezer stamp). Same materials and layout.

I've also wondered about this very rare Giants mini pennant being Keezer. It shares some features of these others, but is not exactly the same.


I agree - I think the Astros and Oilers may be from the same manufacturer. They look similar to me. I also wonder if the California angels pennant c. late 1965 or c. 1966 is from the same set? In my opinion it could be.

Originally, I didn’t think Rob’s Bills was from the same set since it had no name beneath the mascot, but the LA angels pennant below doesn’t have the team name either, but it is clearly of the same design as the California version. So it could be an earlier version (pre 64 brochure)?

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erikc21 10-27-2022 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 2277815)
That Pirate mini is different from the normal, full size Pirate we always associated with Keezer. Come to think of it, it seems awfully consistent with Marc's SF Giants pennant, bearing no mark, but believed to be by Keezer/American Knitwear.

Both are 5" x 12".

Doesn't this suggest there's a whole set of baseball 5" x 12" minis by Keezer/American Knitwear with new artwork, not seen on older full size Keezers?


Those two absolutely could be from the same set!


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