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UKCardGuy 10-08-2022 02:13 AM

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Rob: Marc and I have been discussing these anomalies....

I'm pretty sure all four were made by Trench/IMPKO, around the time Tom Storm purchased IMPKO and their patented screen printing process. Each pennant represents a blend of Trench artwork + IMPKO's signature coloring; and all appear to have been made in the latter half of the 1960s, when the two companies became one.

As far as we know, these were only made for the SF Giants.

Interesting. So if the ball moon artwork is Trench, that mean that the other "Batter and Moon" pennants for the Brooklyn Dodgers and the Phillies were by Trench too, right? What about the "Fielder and Moon" LA Dodgers?

ooo-ribay 10-08-2022 08:04 AM

Makes total sense, Kyle. Thanks for the info….I’ll have to see if I can remember it. :p

I’ve never seen the fielder and the moon before. Interesting.

Domer05 10-08-2022 10:26 AM

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Interesting. So if the ball moon artwork is Trench, that mean that the other "Batter and Moon" pennants for the Brooklyn Dodgers and the Phillies were by Trench too, right? What about the "Fielder and Moon" LA Dodgers?

Yep, I think both design series came from Trench. During the late 1950s, Trench was experimenting with a bunch of new production methods and artists, e.g., they made a few pennants without tassels in 1959; they switched to different woven cloth substitutes throughout the decade; and they employed cutting edge screen printing techniques. They even launched a premium line using flocked graphics that they quickly abandoned. The Storms were keen on modernizing the decades old company when they bought it in the late 1950s. Innovation was key to their success.

Some changes worked out. Some didn't.

Below, here's (1) the tassel-less stadium pennant featuring the LA Coliseum and known Trench batter artwork; (2) a second stadium pennant featuring an alternative depiction of the LA Coliseum by a new artist with same Trench batter and unique "Dodgers" script; (3) the fielder and moon pennant featuring same "Dodgers" script; and (4) a ca. 1960 photo of a vendor selling pennants #1-2 outside the LA Coliseum, with other known Trench pennants.

perezfan 10-08-2022 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by UKCardGuy (Post 2271298)
Interesting. So if the ball moon artwork is Trench, that mean that the other "Batter and Moon" pennants for the Brooklyn Dodgers and the Phillies were by Trench too, right? What about the "Fielder and Moon" LA Dodgers?

Here's a Yankees "Baseball Moon" version you don't often see....

https://www.ebay.com/itm/26592482653...Bk9SR8iRmo73YA

thetahat 10-08-2022 07:39 PM

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I think that these pennants come from whoever made these, it includes the Phillies, pic is 1962-64 (corner of Colt 45s barely visible far right). I just have a tough time accepting these as Trench, given what they were known to make during that period.

thetahat 10-09-2022 07:23 PM

Heads up on this

https://www.ebay.com/itm/26592800971..._b3YA&LH_BIN=1

This exact pennant just sold in auction on Monday, it’s a beautiful pennant, the bottom tassels were either completely detached or were literally hanging by a thread. Seemingly the only flaw but here it was:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/20410323662...app-cvip-panel

New owner/seller glued them into place (told me so) but does not mention this in description. I know there is a Tigers collector here and you may (or may not) find this useful …

ser1979 10-10-2022 10:31 AM

Funny story about the guy selling the Tigers pennant. Guy messaged me one day over a pennant I had for sale. Gave me a long story about how he's only a collector needed this pennant for his personal collection. So I sold the pennant for less than what I was asking cause I had upgraded only to have him turn around and list it for about 3 times what he paid for it, lol. Lesson learned. He is also overpriced on his pennants IMO. Link is to the pennant I sold him about a year ago that is still for sale.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/29440031393...AAAOSwdwBhQ2Tk

thetahat 10-10-2022 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ser1979 (Post 2272069)
Funny story about the guy selling the Tigers pennant. Guy messaged me one day over a pennant I had for sale. Gave me a long story about how he's only a collector needed this pennant for his personal collection. So I sold the pennant for less than what I was asking cause I had upgraded only to have him turn around and list it for about 3 times what he paid for it, lol. Lesson learned. He is also overpriced on his pennants IMO. Link is to the pennant I sold him about a year ago that is still for sale.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/29440031393...AAAOSwdwBhQ2Tk

Interesting, and unfortunate. And yes, I agree, his items are way, way overpriced.

The pennant he repaired was very nice, I wanted it and would have bid higher if not for the tassel issue. (I have it in red but with less vibrant colors.) I display my pennants with the tassels tucked behind the pennant but still, I keep resale value in mind. Now it is glued and up for resale without any reference to it. Lame.

661fish 10-10-2022 08:00 PM

Tigers Pennant
 
I made an offer on his green one with the diamond of tigers. He is pretty shrewd. Hopefully nobody buys from him.

sayheykid54 10-11-2022 04:57 AM

Vintagebaseballco is one of the best sellers on Ebay. Impeccable reputation. They have revised the pennant to reflect the repair.


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