Being in Philly, I spent alot of time at M&N's store and also time with the owner. He always made his items with a difference from the original. On all of his jackets, sweaters, and jerseys there was always one extra button.

I do not know what he did with pennants but there is a difference

I got into collecting vintage pennants because of Mitchell and Ness. I had about 15-20 pennants from my childhood, bought at Phillies games, they were from the mid 70s to mid 80s. I always liked drawing the logos. Sometime around 1997 I noticed a Mitchell and Ness advertised Super Bowl weekend sale of 50% off items. They did this for a few years. I went in and saw their repro pennants and bought a bunch to decorate the newly renovated basement. In the old store, the owner had original pennants hanging on the walls. Some were nice, like the ‘49 Phillies Blue Jay roster pennant. “Not for sale” I was told. A year or so after that I discovered eBay and I bought a big pile of vintage at a flea market, sold off my repros at the Philly memorabilia show for cheap.

Mitchell and Ness pennants all seem to have designs and lettering with the same feel as the pennant itself. This ‘55 pennant looks like it was screened. I agree that it’s a repro but it seems like a different process than M&N.

Like Mark says, this was made to deceive. The creator made a point to match the traditional Trench font used in the names, and came really close but left enough of a difference to tell.

Also interesting about the 1955 Dodgers, it seems to be the only year of the 1940s-50s that Trench made their scroll pennants on cloth. Both ‘55 Bkyn and NYY. All the others are felt. All the different 1954 Indians and NYG and the 1957, 58 Braves. 1949 and 1952 Dodgers are felt. Some in the 1960s are cloth, with the scroll not being screened just the names, like this Redlegs pennant.

Anyone have a counterexample?

I’ve been pretty inactive of late on eBay but did pick these up recently. The 1969 Twins is part of the cool ASCO cloth set, I only had it in red. I like the way Minnesota is written, very retro. And I love the dated Trenches, especially from ordinary seasons. I never saw the ‘52 Tribe.

Great pickups, Greg!

I just got this. I don't usually care too much about color variations and I have plenty of "Giants on the Bridge" but for $35, delivered, what the hell? The tip is so sharp you could cut yourself. :p

I had my account before they got popular and you could still have athletes sign jerseys for the same price as any other item. I would say late 80’s to early 90’s forward. They were advertised in their catalog. I will have to look to see if I still have a catalog somewhere.

In regards to make up, some were different than vintage. Some were identical. I’m not going to argue about this, but I’ve been buying and selling vintage pennants and memorabilia since the 80’s. I’ve mistakingly bought them on eBay back in the day and sent back for return. They obviously aren’t made of the original pressed felt, rather a very soft more modern woven felt like material. They were very well produced just like their jerseys. They made high quality products. I’ve only seen baseball and no other sports. They specifically had the 1955 Dodgers scroll with the pink bum, but it was a brighter blue. That was probably the most popular back then because you couldn’t find nice Brooklyn pennants and the Brooklyn Dodgers were very collectible in those days. I still see these pennants offered for sale as original as well as listed in auctions.

Here are two that are commonly mistaken as original. These are listed as M&N on eBay right now. There is also someone trying to sell this 1969 version as real. You can see the stitching and piping, but both these are same as original. Obviously the 1969 Mets was only made on woven fabric and not felt.

Thanks, and that Giants is sweet. They should have put the Mullin Giant in the stadium pennant instead of the generic batter.

Here we go again

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