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atawolfe 08-02-2022 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2248209)
Now I remember… yeah, the McGreevey stuff. But do we even know for sure it “hung for a long time”?

This item is indeed from McGreeveys, which closed in early 2020 due to Covid. The bar was opened in 2008, and was patterned after the '3rd Base Saloon', which opened around the turn of the century, and is considered by many to be the first 'sports' bar. It was started my a man named Michael (Nuf Ced) McGreevy, who was a huge Boston baseball fan. He had an extreme amount of pictures and memorabilia in his bar, especially for the time period. When prohibition hit, it put him out of business. Most of the pictures and documents were donated to the Boston Public Library, where they still reside today.

When McGreevys opened in 2008, it was patterned after the original 3rd Base Saloon, so the owners went to the library and asked for copies of some of the old pictures to hang in the bar. They also sought out some original items to be displayed in the bar. I won a few of those as well, and they are indeed original.

During the auction a few months ago, the auctioneer would state whether the item was authentic, or a reprint. For this particular pennant, he stated that they did not know if was authentic or not.

I bought it with the assumption that it was not real. However, after putting my hands on it for the first time, I am wondering if it may be authentic.

Everyone's help is much appreciated. I guess my next question would be, who could I take it to that could inspect the fabric/lettering/etc and tell what time period it is from?

thetahat 08-02-2022 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by atawolfe (Post 2248347)
This item is indeed from McGreeveys, which closed in early 2020 due to Covid. The bar was opened in 2008, and was patterned after the '3rd Base Saloon', which opened around the turn of the century, and is considered by many to be the first 'sports' bar. It was started my a man named Michael (Nuf Ced) McGreevy, who was a huge Boston baseball fan. He had an extreme amount of pictures and memorabilia in his bar, especially for the time period. When prohibition hit, it put him out of business. Most of the pictures and documents were donated to the Boston Public Library, where they still reside today.

When McGreevys opened in 2008, it was patterned after the original 3rd Base Saloon, so the owners went to the library and asked for copies of some of the old pictures to hang in the bar. They also sought out some original items to be displayed in the bar. I won a few of those as well, and they are indeed original.

During the auction a few months ago, the auctioneer would state whether the item was authentic, or a reprint. For this particular pennant, he stated that they did not know if was authentic or not.

I bought it with the assumption that it was not real. However, after putting my hands on it for the first time, I am wondering if it may be authentic.

Everyone's help is much appreciated. I guess my next question would be, who could I take it to that could inspect the fabric/lettering/etc and tell what time period it is from?

Honestly, I’m not sure anyone will be able to even remotely pin that down for you. The material appears to be unlike anything used in mass produced pennants, of any age, if this is homemade there’s almost no way of telling.

perezfan 08-02-2022 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2248252)
Speaking of which, what is the most money known to be spent on a pennant? If my memory serves me correct, a 1919 White Sox “grommet style” pennant sold in auction for $34K. Any others in contention?

That one (from the Sotheby's Halper Auction) did hold the record until this one eclipsed it...

https://robertedwardauctions.com/auc...rsized-pennant

ooo-ribay 08-03-2022 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2248427)
Honestly, I’m not sure anyone will be able to even remotely pin that down for you. The material appears to be unlike anything used in mass produced pennants, of any age, if this is homemade there’s almost no way of telling.

And even if you knew the age of the canvas, you wouldn’t necessarily know the age of the pennant.

MK 08-04-2022 12:42 PM

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Managed to acquire this scarce Cubs pennant from the 1940s. Seems to use the same batter as on the Playball pennant, and the same font as the 1945 World Series pennant. Same manufacturer perhaps?

thetahat 08-04-2022 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MK (Post 2248987)
Managed to acquire this scarce Cubs pennant from the 1940s. Seems to use the same batter as on the Playball pennant, and the same font as the 1945 World Series pennant. Same manufacturer perhaps?

Beautiful pennant with great color. Also same batter graphic as on the 1942 Yankees. Looks like a little cubbie on the jersey?

MK 08-05-2022 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2249109)
Beautiful pennant with great color. Also same batter graphic as on the 1942 Yankees. Looks like a little cubbie on the jersey?

Thanks. I love that little Cubbie on the batters uniform.

bocca001 08-06-2022 10:39 AM

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Thanks to Fballguy for attending the National and finding these pennants for me. Both are very rare and were high up on my want list. The fact that the 49ers is rare is maybe not surprising, as it looks old and different from many others of the period. The Giants is one of those ones that doesn't seem all that special until you try to find one.

ooo-ribay 08-06-2022 02:08 PM

I wish I had someone bird dogging for ME!!! :cool:

bocca001 08-07-2022 12:23 PM

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And two more. In super nice shape


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