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Duluth Eskimo 04-13-2020 11:53 AM

That’s a tough pennant Mark

perezfan 04-13-2020 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by rlevy (Post 1970751)
I haven't found the photo published anywhere, but I did find an article in the Sporting News describing a celebration party in Chicago at the Conrad Hilton on Oct 8, right after the Dodgers won the WS (remember, these were all day games back then). The article says "eight players wives, and the entire Dodger office staff, had been flown in the day before". I can't find any reference to a Dodger party in LA, only a reception at the airport when they flew back. So that Dodger pennant was probably a Chicago version, which may explain its scarcity.

Rick

That's a great point, and a very logical assumption. It certainly does resemble the artwork used for the Go-Go Sox pennants of the exact same time frame. I bet it was indeed the Chicago/Comiskey Park version of the Dodgers Pennant.

baseball tourist 04-13-2020 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 1970740)
Chris...

Those are both fairly prevalent. I believe there was a "find" of the 1966 pennant, that was likely unsold stock from that World Series. As a result, many of them are still found in NRMT-MINT condition. The 1965 Twins version is quite a bit rarer than the '66 Orioles.

Thanks Mark!

ooo-ribay 04-13-2020 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 1970741)
Here it is... I've only seen this, and one other in the last 30+ years. To say it's rare is an understatement. It was obviously made after the Dodgers won the pennant, and sold during the 1959 World Series. Had to be a very limited production run for this one...

I love that pennant, even if it is...you know who. :cool:

Fballguy 04-13-2020 02:58 PM

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A few more...You have to look closely at the Pirates crowd...There are a few in there with the Beat'em Bucs most prominent. And also at the second Jackie Robinson pic to find the haphazard way he stores his pennants. ;)

Fballguy 04-13-2020 03:05 PM

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A few photo pennants and a scroll in that Pirates crowd shot. That Fernando Valenzuela pennant isn't a stunner....but I don't think I've ever seen one come up for sale. Not that I'd buy it..

Domer05 04-13-2020 05:56 PM

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This was the scene outside Reina's Delicatessen, 95th St. and 4th Ave., Brooklyn, NY on the day Brooklyn won its first and only championship in October of 1955.

Among all the jubilant children, one girl is seen on the floor, crying. Someone called her out by inscribing the notation, "GIANT FAN --> " on the photo beside her (I swear it wasn't me).

Anyway, two cool Dodger pennants by Trench in the window....

thetahat 04-13-2020 06:36 PM

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“Bobfreedman” was kind enough to find this picture from the Occidental Hotel, October 1924 dinner to celebrate the Senators’ WS win. Hard to see the pennants on display but these are all the same, and one is also pictured below. Now this was in a Legendary catalog when a fancier version of this pennant fetched a mint (everything same except there was a Walter J. graphic inside the baseball and the laces in the ball ran vertical.

I don't know of any other '24 Senators pennants, does anyone else?

As a side note, does anyone recall the similarity between this and a 1925 Pirates pennant?

Bumpus Jones 04-13-2020 07:59 PM

Very cool Greg!

Duluth Eskimo 04-13-2020 09:03 PM

I don't recall your pennant, but I do remember the other one you describe as well as the Pirates version. All sweet pennants.

Duluth Eskimo 04-13-2020 09:33 PM

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We'll shake things up a little with this one. Secretariat pennant, why not

ooo-ribay 04-14-2020 06:15 AM

Thanks for the halter top!

jester 04-15-2020 02:04 AM

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Found a way to frame the 3D pennant without squashing the bat. Used 2 pieces of of pexiglass and cut out around the bat.

ooo-ribay 04-15-2020 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by jester (Post 1971281)
Found a way to frame the 3D pennant without squashing the bat. Used 2 pieces of of pexiglass and cut out around the bat.

Well done!

Domer05 04-15-2020 11:55 AM

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This pic was taken in a Chicago barber shop, ca. 1910s. I know one or two of you own the pair of sox + cubbies pennants hanging on the end....

MK 04-15-2020 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 1971376)
This pic was taken in a Chicago barber shop, ca. 1910s. I know one or two of you own the pair of sox + cubbies pennants hanging on the end....

What a great picture. I could be wrong, but the 8th pennant from the right looks like it has an elephant on it, possibly the Athletics.

thetahat 04-15-2020 01:01 PM

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Good day to ask about the limited series of these pennants. They are definitely made by a large pennant company, the style resembles those of a common late 40s style. (Some other teams have the same little flag by the tip.) I know of this Jackie pennant, Doby, Paige, and I may have seen Luke Easter? So I suppose these were made to honor the African-American pioneers of the time.

Does anyone know of any other players? (I know there are other player pennants - Don Newcombe is one example - but I am specifically asking about those that match this style.)

Additionally ... are there any Jackie pennants like this that list him as a second baseman? I think I may have seen one ...

perezfan 04-15-2020 01:27 PM

I think you captured all of the known ones, Greg...

I saw Luke Easter once, and snoozed/lost on it. I do have Paige, Doby and Jackie. I also have Newcombe, but as you said, it is not from this series. I cannot recall ever seeing any others. But it would be great if something else were to surface!

perezfan 04-15-2020 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jester (Post 1971281)
Found a way to frame the 3D pennant without squashing the bat. Used 2 pieces of of pexiglass and cut out around the bat.

That is a fantastic precision frame job! Great solution to a challenging pennant.

I racked my brain trying to devise a good solution, but just went the lazy route. The larger size rigid sleeves are just big enough to accommodate Uncle Sam’s Hat and Bat (without crushing anything). The door is metal, so I attached magnets to the 3 reverse corners of the top loader sleeve, in order to hang it.

It worked pretty well but not as aesthetically stunning as yours. Great job!

bocca001 04-15-2020 03:31 PM

Pennants on a shelf
 
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I've been trying to get pennants out on display and of my closet, but have limited wall space. I decided to buy some 36 inch acrylic book shelves so that I could both store and display pennants at the same time.

I think I got about 18 on the shelf and can easily rotate them to have something different at the front.

It maybe isn't a 100% perfect solution, but I'm happy with it.

Bumpus Jones 04-15-2020 03:40 PM

looks great!

ooo-ribay 04-15-2020 04:11 PM

I like it, Marc! Can’t go wrong with Giants! :D

perezfan 04-15-2020 05:23 PM

Great solution, given the lack of wall space, Marc...

Really nice to have the ability to rotate them, to keep those displays fresh.

Looks terrific!

thetahat 04-15-2020 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 1971447)
I've been trying to get pennants out on display and of my closet, but have limited wall space. I decided to buy some 36 inch acrylic book shelves so that I could both store and display pennants at the same time.

I think I got about 18 on the shelf and can easily rotate them to have something different at the front.

It maybe isn't a 100% perfect solution, but I'm happy with it.

Marc, very cool! Someone had the idea of using pants hangers to hang/display, I may do that with the ones for which I don’t have wall space.

Hankphenom 04-16-2020 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 1970903)
“Bobfreedman” was kind enough to find this picture from the Occidental Hotel, October 1924 dinner to celebrate the Senators’ WS win. Hard to see the pennants on display but these are all the same, and one is also pictured below. Now this was in a Legendary catalog when a fancier version of this pennant fetched a mint (everything same except there was a Walter J. graphic inside the baseball and the laces in the ball ran vertical.

I don't know of any other '24 Senators pennants, does anyone else?

As a side note, does anyone recall the similarity between this and a 1925 Pirates pennant?

That photo of the 1924 banquet is in the program for the 1925 banquet, also held at the Occidental Hotel in D.C. The WaJo version in Legendary and the one pictured with the blank baseball (yours?) are the only copies of each I've ever seen. I'm guessing the ones on the wall of the restaurant are the only ones of that style that were produced, and who knows about the origins of the WaJo example? It's hard to believe that if either of them had been sold inside or outside the ballpark at the four games of the series in D.C., only one survivor of each would be known today. Who would have thrown theirs away after the Nationals' glorious victory?

MK 04-16-2020 03:22 PM

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These are currently on a wall in a closet waiting for me to figure out where I can squeeze them in to be displayed.

ooo-ribay 04-16-2020 09:17 PM

If you haven’t seen the Cuban pennant in the April pickups thread, check it out.

Domer05 04-17-2020 01:03 PM

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Here's a few more from the 1950s....

1. Walter Alston hired as new manager, November 24, 1953.
2. Ebbets Field sold to real estate developer, 1956 (note the same wind-tattered "BROOKLYN" flag flying outside the facade).
3. Walter O'Malley campaigning for Proposition "B" and new stadium proposal at Chavez Ravine, June 1958 (with pennant topping diagram).
4. Close-up of pennant depicting Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, as seen in the above photo. Another holy grail of sorts....

MK 04-17-2020 01:26 PM

Play Ball
 
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Were any other teams represented with the “Play Ball” other than the Cubs? This White Sox pennant has the same batter, but no wording.

perezfan 04-17-2020 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MK (Post 1972082)
Were any other teams represented with the “Play Ball” other than the Cubs? This White Sox pennant has the same batter, but no wording.

The Yankees used that image in 1942, and the Cubs utilized a slightly different variation of it as well (with gothic font...)

perezfan 04-17-2020 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 1972077)
Here's a few more from the 1950s....

1. Walter Alston hired as new manager, November 24, 1953.
2. Ebbets Field sold to real estate developer, 1956 (note the same wind-tattered "BROOKLYN" flag flying outside the facade).
3. Walter O'Malley campaigning for Proposition "B" and new stadium proposal at Chavez Ravine, June 1958 (with pennant topping diagram).
4. Close-up of pennant depicting Los Angeles Memorial Coliseum, as seen in the above photo. Another holy grail of sorts....

Many thanks for posting that incredible pic of O'Malley...

Great to know it's a first-year LA Dodgers Pennant. Actually, a pre-first year LA pennant!

Great stuff.... below is my example.

MK 04-17-2020 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 1972083)
The Yankees used that image in 1942, and the Cubs utilized a slightly different variation of it as well (with gothic font...)

I see the Yankees version in Egner’s Guide. How do we know it’s 1942?

MK 04-17-2020 01:57 PM

You answered my question while I was asking. Thanks

perezfan 04-17-2020 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MK (Post 1972093)
I see the Yankees version in Egner’s Guide. How do we know it’s 1942?

Just look towards the tip! :rolleyes:

Domer05 04-17-2020 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 1972092)
Many thanks for posting that incredible pic of O'Malley...

Great to know it's a first-year LA Dodgers Pennant. Actually, a pre-first year LA pennant!

Great stuff.... below is my example.

Of course you own it :)

Honestly, I've never seen one for sale. On yours, it almost looks like the graphic was multi-colored originally--what do you think?

perezfan 04-17-2020 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 1972101)
Of course you own it :)

Honestly, I've never seen one for sale. On yours, it almost looks like the graphic was multi-colored originally--what do you think?

Yeah, I see what you mean...

I suppose it's possible, but think it was made this way. There is no fading whatsoever to the felt, as it remains a very deep blue. Hard to believe the graphic portions could fade that much, if they were once colored.

It's an interesting pennant... really different from anything else the Dodgers put out.

perezfan 04-17-2020 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MK (Post 1972094)
You answered my question while I was asking. Thanks

Haha... sorry about that, Mike! I could not get the picture to load, and when I finally did, you'd already asked the question.

Would love to see any other examples of teams that used this graphic. It's just a classic image!

ooo-ribay 04-17-2020 08:54 PM

Let’s play a game...

Show a pennant perezfan doesn’t have! :p

Fballguy 04-18-2020 08:53 AM

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I'll go first. #PennantsPerezfanDoesntHave

erikc21 04-18-2020 08:54 AM

Hey, pennant guys
 
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Originally Posted by Fballguy (Post 1972326)
I'll go first. #PennantsPerezfanDoesntHave


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bocca001 04-18-2020 09:54 AM

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How about one he doesn't have anymore?

MK 04-18-2020 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 1972254)
Let’s play a game...

Show a pennant perezfan doesn’t have! :p

I’m gambling he doesn’t have this one.

Fballguy 04-18-2020 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 1972347)
How about one he doesn't have anymore?

Regarding that Oilers...That's one that I don't have. But would love to. ;)

perezfan 04-18-2020 10:44 AM

Correct on both counts, Mike and Marc...

The great Astronaut pennant was in my collection for many years, but finally found its proper home.

And that Cubs Catcher variation is one I've always loved, but never been able to find. It's such a toughie. Great one Mike! I bet you may also have the 1945 Cubs with Batter and Players' Names. I've never had that one either.

Ironically I am in the midst of a big sale/trade, in which I'll likely be parting with some other very rare ones. Tough to do when you're still attached, but very fortunate to have a small source of "stay at home income" during these weird and tough times.

I'll put up a few more on the BST later this weekend. Will include some nice ones at good prices. Please keep an eye out!

MK 04-18-2020 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 1972364)
Correct on both counts, Mike and Marc...

The great Astronaut pennant was in my collection for many years, but finally found its proper home.

And that Cubs Catcher variation is one I've always loved, but never been able to find. It's such a toughie. Great one Mike! I bet you may also have the 1945 Cubs with Batter and Players' Names. I've never had that one either.

Ironically I am in the midst of a big sale/trade, in which I'll likely be parting with some other very rare ones. Tough to do when you're still attached, but very fortunate to have a small source of "stay at home income" during these weird and tough times.

I'll put up a few more on the BST later this weekend. Will include some nice ones at good prices. Please keep an eye out!

You’re right Mark I do have that Cub pennant. But there are several I would love to have and look foreword to seeing what you have for sale.

perezfan 04-18-2020 12:40 PM

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What a beauty, Mike!

You'll probably disappointed, as I don't think I'm selling any Cubs. They are still struggling with "coming out of the closet" :rolleyes:

doug.goodman 04-18-2020 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Fballguy (Post 1972326)
I'll go first. #PennantsPerezfanDoesntHave

There are so many jokes that I shall avoid making...

baseball tourist 04-18-2020 12:59 PM

Cuban
 
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Not in great shape, but I kinda dig that the original owner loved the pennant so much as to repair it. Thanks to Max W. for this add!

MK 04-18-2020 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 1972399)
What a beauty, Mike!

You'll probably disappointed, as I don't think I'm selling any Cubs. They are still struggling with "coming out of the closet" :rolleyes:

HaHa!

bocca001 04-18-2020 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Fballguy (Post 1972360)
Regarding that Oilers...That's one that I don't have. But would love to. ;)

Ha! I didn't know how rare the Oilers pennant was when I bought it, although the hammer price should have been a clue. I bought it after being the underbidder on about 10 straight NFL pennants (mostly 49ers) and decided that I just wanted to win something.


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