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Fballguy 05-11-2022 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 2223777)
Canteen = concessionaire. And, for the most part, I've only seen their marks on Trench-made pennants. But this one doesn't really scream Trench to me ... so perhaps someone else made it?

Not sure I've seen Canteen Corp on a baseball pennant before. Mainly football helmet pennants. Anyone seen others?

Domer05 05-11-2022 11:55 PM

If the pennant was truly made ca. 1972 and for the AL Texas Rangers, and by a company like Trench, then I'd expect to see an MLB logo on it indicating that the product was officially licensed; as you'd expect to find on other Trench (or ASCO) pennants made post-1969.

Maybe this was was made in 1971 or earlier, when the Dallas-Ft. Worth-Arlington area was trying to lure an existing franchise their way? That might explain why it wasn't an officially sanctioned pennant by MLB.

It almost resembles more of a 1950s or 60s-era look, doesn't it?

thetahat 05-13-2022 09:58 AM

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Anyone get that oversized Pirates pennant? (Top one, below, went for about a grand on eBay.) I’m intrigued by these, have written about them before. I’ve seen three different Pirates versions now. Could it be the first pennant “series”?

perezfan 05-13-2022 11:33 AM

I was the runner-up. I had a half-ass snipe (just below $1K) simply because I could not be positive it's actually a Pirates Pennant. It could easily (and perhaps more likely) be a Pittsburgh Univerity Pennant...

I like yours, Greg, because it says "Pirates" instead of Pittsburgh. Also, yours appears to be black and gold (not blue and gold). The Pirates never used blue as one of their colors, and were always black and gold. The University of Pittsburgh (Pitt) on the other hand, traditionally has blue and gold colors (just like the eBay pennant).

So why would they make one that says "Pirates" and another that says "Pittsburgh"? There's a similar example from this same series... One says "Cubs" and the other says "Chicago". The "Chicago" version has maroon and white felt, just like Chicago University. All of this makes me doubt whether the eBay example was truly a Pirates Pennant. So in retrospect, I'm kinda glad I was the under-bidder.

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thetahat 05-13-2022 03:25 PM

That Chicago pennant is in a Hunt auction right now. Last year it didn’t sell, was advertised as either U of Chicago or Sox or Cubs. This time around, no mention of possible team, and it’s getting bids.

I still gotta believe it’s a Pirate pennant. But the little bit of doubt does detract. The other Pittsburgh pennant went for $1900 and change in Heritage.

The Tigers leather tiger head pennant is still the Holy Grail ..

ooo-ribay 05-13-2022 03:45 PM

Good stuff, Heavy Hitters!

UKCardGuy 05-14-2022 01:55 PM

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Love those Pirates pennants.

Did anyone see this one from CleanSweep's April auction? I wasn't sure what to think about it. Anybody here pick it up?

https://www.cleansweepauctions.com/i...tem=0000740349


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bocca001 05-15-2022 10:01 AM

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Ok, I'm just going to ask because I can't stop myself for thinking it, but have any of these pennants you guys are showing (with the leather) ever shown up in beat to hell condition? They all seem really nice. Almost new. Which seems.... uncomfortable.

I do know that leather stuff can survive well. As an example, the Santa Clara pennant below in looks like new condition. But I also have one that shows some age. I guess I'd expect to see more of these of the baseball pennants.

I don't watch these pennant closely when they come up for sale, so admit that I am no expert.

perezfan 05-15-2022 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 2225069)
Ok, I'm just going to ask because I can't stop myself for thinking it, but have any of these pennants you guys are showing (with the leather) ever shown up in beat to hell condition? They all seem really nice. Almost new. Which seems.... uncomfortable.

I do know that leather stuff can survive well. As an example, the Santa Clara pennant below in looks like new condition. But I also have one that shows some age. I guess I'd expect to see more of these of the baseball pennants.

I don't watch these pennant closely when they come up for sale, so admit that I am no expert.

Though they don't surface often, I've seen plenty of beat-up examples over the years. I usually pass on them because I'm a condition freak. But I have seen (and owned) examples that are moth-eaten, stained, soiled, torn, missing felt, and have holes, slits, etc. I've also seen a few where the embroidered leather has peeled off and either remains loose or has been glued back on to the felt.

You can easily tell the difference between a vintage example and a reproduction when you have them in-hand. And great Santa Clara Pennants, BTW!

thetahat 05-15-2022 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by UKCardGuy (Post 2224855)
Love those Pirates pennants.

Did anyone see this one from CleanSweep's April auction? I wasn't sure what to think about it. Anybody here pick it up?

https://www.cleansweepauctions.com/i...tem=0000740349


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G@ry G0ldb3rg

Oh man … I wish it was me … and what a bargain!


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