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ooo-ribay 03-08-2022 11:00 AM

There were 24 MLB teams in 1969, yes? Is it know or suspected that a cloth pennant was made for each? How many do you have, Greg?

thetahat 03-08-2022 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2203552)
There were 24 MLB teams in 1969, yes? Is it know or suspected that a cloth pennant was made for each? How many do you have, Greg?

I have seen cloth for all 24 except for Oakland. I have that in felt with the 69 MLB trademark. I own 21 of the 24. It’s possible that they used cloth through 1971 as I have never seen a Senators in felt. The Phillies is super rare for some reason

bocca001 03-11-2022 09:12 AM

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Picked up an older Santa Clara pennant this past week, and it has an interesting label for Ellery Arms. It's an odd shape/size, which probably points to it being decently old.

I also took an updated pic of the SF Giants pennants we had been talking about last week, just to give a full shot of the color rainbow. Greg, you asked about the stitching on the back. They all have a similar stitching pattern (some kind of double stitch) on the back, although the thread quality seems to change (more like simple thin thread on the newer ones with the smudgy graphics).

ooo-ribay 03-11-2022 02:40 PM

Completist Marc. :p

UKCardGuy 03-12-2022 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 2204589)
Picked up an older Santa Clara pennant this past week, and it has an interesting label for Ellery Arms. It's an odd shape/size, which probably points to it being decently old.

I also took an updated pic of the SF Giants pennants we had been talking about last week, just to give a full shot of the color rainbow. Greg, you asked about the stitching on the back. They all have a similar stitching pattern (some kind of double stitch) on the back, although the thread quality seems to change (more like simple thin thread on the newer ones with the smudgy graphics).

Really like the old Santa Clara pennant. It looks like the Ellery Arms Company was a catalog company/store. I'm not sure if they'd have been the manufacturer of the pennant though.

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...-co-2974186229

Domer05 03-12-2022 02:27 PM

Good find, Gary. I think you're spot on: Ellery Arms is what you would call a "distributor" of pennants. I highly doubt they manufactured pennants.

In my research, I've found this to be true for many of the order-by-mail retailers of the day that circulated catologues featuring felt pennants, e.g., Spalding, Sears Roebuck, etc. These catalogues were thick; sometimes hundreds of pages long. Pennants made up only a few pages within these catalogues; and therefore represented only a small part of their business.

In most instances, pennants sold via these distributors would feature no label; but, sometimes, they featured the label of the distributor--not the maker. Which has only added to the confusion as to who made them....

bocca001 03-13-2022 07:26 AM

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I also just won this pennant with an Ellery label (although it hasn't arrived yet). My dad's high school.

thetahat 03-15-2022 11:14 AM

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This is a weird pennant (currently on eBay). It looks like two pennant companies each made part of it. The printing along the edges is clearly Trench-like. The logo and names and spine are also. But the printing in the middle (“Souvenir … Home of Champions” is in the style of the unknown NYC area company that made the 1958 SF/LA opening day pennant and the 1954 WS pennant that was posted awhile back. Pictured is an oversized NYY of mine which is definitely not Trench ..

My guess is Trench 100% and they just “borrowed” the inner print.

thetahat 03-17-2022 11:00 AM

Gotta love eBay. This exact pennant just sold FIVE DAYS ago in auction for $490, and the winner now lists it as BIN at …

https://www.ebay.com/itm/12520641174...iMmPF&LH_BIN=1

perezfan 03-17-2022 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2206561)
Gotta love eBay. This exact pennant just sold FIVE DAYS ago in auction for $490, and the winner now lists it as BIN at …

https://www.ebay.com/itm/12520641174...iMmPF&LH_BIN=1

It’ll never sell. I have that same pennant in green, and would be happy selling it for a quarter of that price.


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