Hey, fellas, I'm a political junkie, and I'd love to engage you and anybody else on any of it some time, but I come here to get away from that stuff for a little while. I thought that was the deal with Net54, no?

So just let it go as everyone else did.

In regards to the pennant Mark, I’ve had a number of those AAFC series pennants over the years, but I don’t remember any of them having a makers mark on the reverse. Obviously the same maker, but I don’t remember any markings on the baseball ones either. Good observation though.

Not my style. Not hardly.

I use these clear acrylic bookshelves (from Amazon). Not the best pics, but the only ones I have handy. I can get 10-12 pennants on the shelf and then rotate which pennant is in front. I think I have four of them right now and will probably get a few more. It works as a display/storage combo for me.

It's in the "rules," Hank. :cool:

That's a really great idea Marc. Looking good!

Rob

Ditto. Great idea - combined storage and display. Thanks.

Mark: Actually, I think all three of those of you pictured are by the same maker: AMCO Athletic Apparel Corp., of Brooklyn, NY.

Perhaps this one below seals the deal: it's the AMCO batter + same "N.Y. YANKEES" script as seen on the others.

...And if we have consensus that all four are by AMCO, then that means we now have an "AMCO quarterback" to complement our previously identified "AMCO batter" (with bat below the crown of his cap); and we now have a "2d AMCO batter" with a raised bat above the crown of his cap.

Good observation, Mark!

Political posts are OK, but taking exception to them is not? Is that a rule, Rob?

Marc, I do the same for my pennants. But I also take an extra shelf and cut it into 6" lengths, then use one on the top to stop the pennants from falling out. I only use one screw for the top one so I can flip it out of the way to get to the pennants.


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Very clean/sharp looking display, Rick...

Functional, innovative and very attractive!

Thanks Kyle...

So my assumption would be that this White Sox Pennant is also AMCO, and that we have a new/slightly different Batter to add to the list?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1950s-Chica...sAAOSwPW9esNwt

I kinda meant it tongue in cheek, Hank, but I'm pretty sure the moderator discourages politics or religion....which is probably a good idea.

Well it turns out that my Yankees pennant was lost in transit. I got my money back but I'm still a bit bummed. I was looking forward to another bleaching attempt. Hey ho.

[QUOTE=rlevy;2081156]Marc, I do the same for my pennants. But I also take an extra shelf and cut it into 6" lengths, then use one on the top to stop the pennants from falling out. I only use one screw for the top one so I can flip it out of the way to get to the pennants.

Those look really good, Rick. It looks like the ones I have been using are longer. I have some room at the end of the shelves to display other items (e.g., cards, buttons, other random stuff). I like how tidy yours look.

Thanks Mark and Marc. They do work well for about 10 pennants in rigid cases. I wish I could say I was smart enough to have bought these acrylic shelves for this purpose, but I actually bought them for another purpose that didn't work out. With my available wall space gradually disappearing they became one of my better mistakes, although I do think Marc's shelves may be better since you can display some other items with the pennants.

A VERY good idea! Thanks, Rob.

Could be! I can't say I recognize this particular batter graphic....

That said, many of the AMCO pennants from the late 1940s, I've noticed, are around 23" in length. Trench was also heavily into the 3/4 size during this same time; however, their 3/4 pennants measured more like 26" in length. As this one measures 26" in length, I don't think we can exclude it as being by Trench.

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That's pretty neat Rob. I'm trying to work out how it works. Have you fixed grommets through the holders or attached hooks to them so they hang on the cables?

Of course he has a suspension bridge. He just needs to paint it rust colored.

I think he uses binder clips, if I remember correctly. And the thin pennant sleeves (the hard ones get pretty heavy in large groups).

At first, I had the “cables” threaded through binder clips with the ends of the cables permanently crimped. I then discovered the “wings” of the binder clips took up too much room and I had to cut every single one off the cables. Those were replaced with “butterfly” paper clips. I’ll get a close up later.

Close up...

I know that Rob, Rick and Marc have shown innovative "storage" solutions that also enable the pennants to be readily displayed. Great stuff!

But (as a fellow collector who has also covered every inch of wall space) my solution is pictured below. These plastic bins are probably made for wrapping paper, but really work well for storing pennants. Available at any Target, Meijer, Container Store or Wal-Mart, each one will hold over 36 pennants.

The rigid covers (toploaders) are a bit smaller than the soft sleeves, and fit better as a result. You can face the pennants both ways, as shown below. Plus, these bins will fit underneath a bed, or are stackable if that's your preference. They provide great protection from dust, sunlight, carpet beetles and moths... not to mention kids and pets!

Hope this is helpful and best of luck!

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Recently stumbled across this...

https://shop.geminibuildsit.com/blog...ennants-galore

Funny that they include the Cubs and Pilots pennants with this "1951" grouping. Especially since the date of the Pilots is right on the pennant. :rolleyes:

That Cubs pennant sticks out like a sore thumb......

Jeez...I wonder what that thing cost???? :eek:

I can’t even imagine how much that frame weighs. Would need some real anchoring on the wall.

Not very practical but I love the ballpark backdrop.

Brutal! Not just the repro Cubs but the tips of the pennants in the left column are covered ... my OCD would be blown up by that monstrosity. There’s a certain feng shui to proper pennant decoration, mixing colors, etc. Or maybe I’m just nuts.

I store mine like Mark, in tubs ... I have nine under the pool table and a tenth is in a closet (with mostly 1970s).

Speaking of pennant decoration ... I was psyched to get a good deal on this oversized White Sox until I realized it doesn’t display well in the dungeon. All my pennants run parallel. I might have to turn the letters :)

Glad you were able to add this to your collection. I was almost relieved it wasn’t a Cubs version or I would have been in the bidding and probably a lot poorer in the end.

Well...Someone just paid $270 (plus tax) for a Mitchell & Ness creation.

https://ebay.us/B58abB

Thanks. If it was Cubs it would have pushed five figures.

Kyle...Don't think you've finished your piece on Amco yet. Here's a cleaner shot of the Amco subscript.

Gotta love how the seller conveniently leaves out the truly important info, and stacks the pennant on top of vintage examples. I am sure he knew what it really is.

In the "olden days", I would email the buyer to alert him to the obvious fake he just bought. But with eBay now hiding all bidders' identities, people are getting bilked a lot more. A bad move IMHO :(

yes it is and most of these purchases are by loved ones who thinks their husband etc will be really happy with this gift

So....a 1955 Champs pennant shows Ebbetts closing in 1957? PT Barnum was right!

Thanks man! Did you win it recently??

Anyone want to guess how much 25 cost?

https://ebay.us/i7AnMA

Yes...If you want other pics, let me know.

That is a crap load of crappy pennants!

I'm not really a fan of that presentation for multiple reasons (overlapping on the pennants being one, and just the general "hodge podge" of it being another), but in their defense the first line of the story says "...pennants dating back to 1951..." so it's just the title that is misleading.

Also, there seems to be a glaring typo in the write up : when they say "making sixteen pennants work collectively in one 57” x 88” case provided an exciting challenge." I believe that they meant to say "stuffing", "wedging" or "forcing" instead of "making".

But I could be wrong,
Doug

Just from a decorative standpoint, the way the pennants are displayed is rather unsightly. At least he didn’t make a wheel out of them ....

Just acquired this fairly tough version from the series which included several different Cubs examples.

Beauty! And very rare. Congrats.

Congrats Mike... Gorgeous!

There’s a lot going on in that pennant!

It does look like they were filling in space with various doodles.

This is about the nicest and cleanest example of this pennant I have ever seen. Really nice and tough pennant.

Was anybody here able to snag this one?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1950s-Vinta...p2047675.l2557

One of very few rare/desirable pennants to hit eBay over the past few months (which may have been reflected in the final price). Congrats to whoever won it!

Saw that one and bid on it for resale, but didn’t win it. Good prices lately for tough pennants.

Marc and I were negotiating this one on Friday. The condition bothered him more than me, so I went for it. Plus, this pennant is one of my three nemesis pennants, that I just seem to have a curse preventing me from owning. Something always goes wrong when I've attempted to win it in the past...computer glitches...wife distractions. So I was pretty determined this time.

I ended up coming in second. I sniped what I thought would be an umbrella bid, thinking I had about a $50 margin over sale price, but nope. That's the strongest price (and in the worst condition) I've seen for that pennant over the last 5-10 years.

Aw sh*t. Sorry to hear that Rob.

I thought the condition was "acceptable". Thought it would land in the $180 - $200 range, but I guess the rare ones are starting to command more these days.

I know what you mean about "cursed" pennants. I have had more than a few in which some fluke thing happens every rare occasion that one comes up. Looks like this one might continue to plague you a while longer. :(

I really like that pennant. Might have had to detach/bleach/reattach the spine. :p

That 49ers pennant is way cool. I’m starting to appreciate the 50s FB pennants more and more. Namely the Trench pennants that resemble the baseball pennants from the era ... like the Cardinals simply switched out the bat for the baseball. Those are simple, elegant looking pennants and they came in so many neat colors.

For me, the issue was the color that had leeched into the spine. I had this happen on a pennant that I tried to clean recently (red leeched when I applied just a bit of water). Red 49ers, white spine. I can't get the red out of the spine and the fabric is so soft that trying to clean it is clearly damaging it. It wasn't a super-rare pennant and it was one of those that the price was right for taking a chance.

I thought Rob's bid would get this one for sure. I was willing to go about $200 (maybe $250), and I tend to be competitive for 49ers pennants.

But I've also run into a few 49ers pennants that go $600-$1,000. Like the one below. A bit much for me. And the 49ers runner and punter pennants go for $500+, when I see some for other teams in the $150 range (I think a Steelers one just sold in that range).

I know that the 49ers aren't quite at the level of the Raiders, but it does seem like 49ers pennants are less common than many teams.

I did win this one though. It just arrived and is pretty nice shape.

Nice pickup, Marc.... One of my favorite series of pennants, and love it with the green felt. Congrats!

That looks like a “one off” kind of pennant i.e. not part of any “series.” Yes?

Actually, I believe we determined this pennant came from the "Player-in-the-name" series discussed a few months ago; and, we believe it to have been produced by the WGN Flag Co. of Chicago.

Greg owns 15 of the 16 pennants from that series ... just needs the St. Louis Cardinals one, I believe.

That was certainly my understanding as well.

Correct. I don’t think this is a knockoff but an earlier WGN. I’ve seen the Cubs and Phillies versions with tassels also.

I think Rob was referring to the 49ers pennant Marc pictured.

Crap, you're right.... thanks for clarifying. That'll teach me not to post after midnight with 3 martinis in my system. Yes, that oddball 49ers has to be a one-off. Great pennant!

Been there done that. I always cringe when I wake up the next morning and wonder what I "wine posted" the night before.

Yes, I was.

Nothing wrong with a little drunk posting! :p

Just picked up the big (5") patch. A bargain at $7.50. Since it still has a tab, I was hoping for a maker on the back. Alas, no. I guess we don't know who made the pennant and the patches...

I recently bought this very colorful Houston Colt 45s pennant. The seller told me that he bought the pennant at Wrigley Field in 1962 or 1963. It's an Adflag pennant (thanks, Greg), so it being from Chicago makes sense.

I guess I never really thought very deeply about this in the past, but I guess it's possible (likely?) that this pennant was only sold at a handful of non-Houston stadiums. Houston fans may have never seen this pennant in Houston because the vendors in Houston were selling other pennants, such as the second and third pennants below (which would help to explain why they are more common).

What do you guys think?

I think that's a great looking pennant!

And congrats for christening page 100! :p

Great pennant, Marc. That could explain the rarity, but perhaps fewer were simply manufactured as well. We can only theorize at this point.

Rob:
For me, this is page 166 :confused:

Page 100 for me!

Yeah that’s a super cool pennant, hard to find as neatly cut as Marc’s. This is right around the time that Ad Flag turned over quality control to a 12 year old with scissors.

It’s interesting to note that this is the same pistol graphic on the two sided Colt 45 pennant, except smaller and inverted.

Beware the pennant eating virus. Not sure if there's a vaccine for this.

https://ebay.us/uHeZrR

Interesting that the virus eats felt but not ink.

I may or may not be receiving a felt triangle in the mail today.

If only those damn rats would wear their masks and social-distance like they're supposed to, these casualties could be avoided. That said, the "floating letters" look kind of cool.

I was kind of thinking the same thing. You could almost do something artsy with this...but not for $89.

Well...If you receive an empty box, you know what happened.

Not sure if Fballguy will be able to resist this beauty.