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erikc21 12-16-2021 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by matty39 (Post 2175753)
St Paul Saints


Such a beautiful display! [emoji7]I was the last-second underbidder on that red St. Paul Saints pennant just over a year or so ago. I love the entire collection! [emoji1376]

erikc21 12-16-2021 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2175165)
Yikes. Definitely not vintage.


I must admit, I listed one of these exact pennants as ‘vintage’ a few months ago as I bought it with actual vintage pennants. After your input I changed the description and price. It’s great there is a community that self regulates and helps correct inaccurate postings! [emoji1360]

thetahat 12-17-2021 04:17 AM

There were a batch of older repros of defunct teams made around the late 1970s … the construction of the pennant dates them. The Browns and Pilots are always auctioned as vintage and I’m pretty sure the book includes them. Senators, Boston Braves, Phila A’s … in fact I think the seller of the Colts is selling all of these as vintage. And I think Mark said it before, this could be a Xmas gift from wife to husband, neither of whom may ever know …

Of course it’s understandable how most people might not know … I have reached out to other sellers before, most appreciate it but some take offense and insist they are authentic.

thetahat 12-17-2021 04:23 AM

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These pennants also fit the “sliding runner” style pennant, almost definitely the same company. This hopefully gives Mark the opportunity to repost his sweet Brooklyn Dodgers pennant …

mrreality68 12-17-2021 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by matty39 (Post 2175753)
St Paul Saints

That is a truly amazing selection of Pennants and a Great way of Displaying them

That Really Catches the eye

Wow and Congrats

thetahat 12-17-2021 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by matty39 (Post 2175753)
St Paul Saints

Ditto, that’s a super cool display. Many of those must be lone survivors.

UKCardGuy 12-17-2021 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by matty39 (Post 2175753)
St Paul Saints

Wow, what a great display. So many Ferguson Bakery pennants in one place!

With regards to the sliding runner, is the players number meaningful? I've noticed that on many of these the runner has the #4. On others like the NY Giants below and the St Paul Saints, it's the #7.

Knowing that different pennant manufacturers "borrowed" artwork from each other, could that imply a 2nd manufacturer?

ooo-ribay 12-17-2021 08:32 AM

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Kind of a funny story of a screw up that turned out OK....a couple of weeks ago, I mentioned I was bidding on an Inside the Park pennant...I didn't win but Bocca alerted me that Keith Javic had the same pennant in his Etsy store. I immediately jumped on it. I didn't love the pennant but it was a new one for my Giants collection and pickings have been slim. A few days later, while the pennant was enroute, I was scrolling through my memorabilia pictures, looking for something else. I scrolled past a picture of the pennant I was waiting on. I thought, "Oh, wow, that's a decent picture of the pennant I'm waiting on...man, that looks like our table...that looks like my off brand tape measure beside it....SH*T! I already have that pennant!"

The funny thing is, I even posted pictures here on 8/15/19 (post #2433). I have three spreadsheets of acquisitions where this pennant should be entered. It appears in none of them. I have no idea who I got it from or what I paid. Keith was gracious enough to accept a return :D. Another, more attractive NY Giants pennant is on its way from him. Keith and Bocca both said they have mistakenly bought duplicates before, so I'm not the only dope.

This is one unattractive pennant, huh? I'm thinking the White Sox must be by the same maker. Is it my imagination or were the 1940's a time for particularly unattractive pennants?

ooo-ribay 12-17-2021 08:43 AM

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And there's this...I know awhile back, we were posting "pennants in pictures." Here's an attractive young lady at the 1962 World Series.

butchie_t 12-17-2021 11:10 AM

Highly Scientific and controlled pennant cleaning test results
 
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Ok group,

After reviewing every post in this thread and consulting with two of the gentleman here (thank you both again for your collective inputs). I decided to conduct a highly scientific and very controlled (cough) experiment in my lab hidden deep within the bowels of my home (laundry room).

I went to my local antique store in search of an example pennant that closely matched the fabric of my 78 Washington Bullets Championship Pennant. After searching this huge place for over 2 hours I finally came across my test 'pennant'. Ernie from Sesame Street will have to do actually, I was freaking tired of searching for a danged hammered pennant.

Funny thing about this search, I have been in this antique store many of times and pennants abound of all different types. From baseball, football, and those danged vacation place pennants. This time not a one to be found. The two trashed pennants I did come across the owner wanted stupid prices for. I wanted to maybe spend around 5 bucks.

So I found Ernie and he was.....5 bucks and the fabric was close enough for me.

First two pictures are front and back of Ernie (please if this thing was rare or whatever, I don't want to know about it....ever. :p Because as you can see in the following photos Ernie now has a split personality.

After consulting with other highly regarded scientist in their respective fields (Dr. ooo-ribay and Dr. Duluth Eskimo). Thank you gentlemen for your cleaning acumen and direction.

My experiment consisted of Retro Clean and Oxi Clean. I found a bin top that fit right over my deep well and that became my vat for the experiment. I soaked both halves twice in each solution, following the instructions on the back of each of the packages.

You can see my highly controlled vat that Ernie half is immersed and the very technical weights I used to keep the man down! He was soaked twice over two days using this method.

Th next photos shows dirty Ernie next to Retro Clean Ernie (front and back).
A notable difference for sure but still would need some additional soaks to finish the job. But good enough for this controlled experiment.

I skip ahead to the end result photos of the Oxi Clean soaks of the dirty Ernie in the previous photo and the comparison of the Oxi Clean Ernie and Retro Clean Ernie.

A noticeable difference of clean between the two Ernies. Both front and back.

After careful consideration and munching on some of the ruffles chips in the bag on the dryer, I have come to the conclusion that Oxi Clean will be the method of cleaning I will use for the Bullets Championship pennant (shown below).

I do not have a large enough vat to soak the pennant in laying down and the bathtub is not an option so I will use a modified Dr. ooo-ribay method.

I will use a spray bottle full of Oxi Clean and hang the pennant much the same way in my shower and spray and rinse the pennant over a number of days as long as it takes to get the pennant whiter and brighter. I won't be covering the edge of the pennant as I won't be using any bleach for this cleaning.

One thing throughout this controlled process is that at no time did Ernies red color ever run or any of the colors ever run. So that is encouraging to me and I believe I should expect the same results on my Bullets pennant. But I will watch closely regardless to make sure I stop if I see any bleeding. And will report the results in this thread in separate postings.

I hope you all have enjoyed my technical paper and examples of my masterful work. I have fun presenting it. Regards, a nut-job from Colorado.

NOTE: At no time were any actual muppets killed, maimed, or injured in this experiment. We used only a representation of said muppet and at no time in the future of any Sesame Street watchers will you ever see a Ernie muppet stitched together. -The Management

Cheers!

B.T.


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