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cardsnstuff 03-18-2018 03:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bensie (Post 1758491)
Same here
When are cards expected to arrive? are you sending any in?

bensie 03-18-2018 09:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by cardsnstuff (Post 1758660)
When are cards expected to arrive? are you sending any in?
Should be here tomorrow (Monday). I'm still on the fence about whether I'll submit anything or not. I only won low value cards (highest being a mid grade Reggie Jackson rc).

Bored5000 03-18-2018 11:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1758531)
Right, for example, if you pay $1000 for a 1952 Topps PSA 3 Mantle at an 'auction' won this month and won ' the card....i would consider that paying light and expecting to get a light package. (getting a brick in the mail or getting nothing is still getting a light package...
A 52T Mantle is a $15-20,000 card in PSA 3. I don't even know mechanicalman at all, but did you really think he was talking about paying five cents on the dollar when he got ripped off on a Ruth card for which he paid $4,500?

What about his post even gave any kind of an indication that he was talking about a price that was so obviously out of whack as to scream scam?

1952boyntoncollector 03-19-2018 06:18 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bored5000 (Post 1758808)
A 52T Mantle is a $15-20,000 card in PSA 3. I don't even know mechanicalman at all, but did you really think he was talking about paying five cents on the dollar when he got ripped off on a Ruth card for which he paid $4,500?

What about his post even gave any kind of an indication that he was talking about a price that was so obviously out of whack as to scream scam?
giving an example..plus there are many people people on this thread that did pay cents on the dollars on cards that were later 'ripped' off.....

plus we werent told exactly which ruth card.....so i said in general if you pay light you are going to get a light package... If he wanted to elaborate more what exactly what card was bought and where etc thats fine as well but nothing more was said....what makes you think he didnt get an extremely extremely good deal...you are accusing me to jumping to conclusions while you are also jumping to conclusions as you have no idea what the details of the sale is.....but again i was only talking generally..

but remember if you pay light you are going to get something light in the mail....which is my point of what was bought at the AH

bobbyw8469 03-19-2018 06:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1758822)
giving an example..plus there are many people people on this thread that did pay cents on the dollars on cards that were later 'ripped' off.....

plus we werent told exactly which ruth card.....so i said in general if you pay light you are going to get a light package... If he wanted to elaborate more what exactly what card was bought and where etc thats fine as well but nothing more was said....what makes you think he didnt get an extremely extremely good deal...you are accusing me to jumping to conclusions while you are also jumping to conclusions as you have no idea what the details of the sale is.....but again i was only talking generally..

but remember if you pay light you are going to get something light in the mail....which is my point of what was bought at the AH
What about someone who paid market price for a 1952 Mantle rookie and got shipped a 1959 Don Mossi PSA 5? That would still be the same hard case to prove with Ebay/PayPal since tracking showed that the seller delivered a package and recieved a package. Like the same thing that happened in my instance. Someone paid for my cards and wanted to return them and shipped back empty slabs. If I hadn't opened them up in front of a postal employee, I would be out the cards AND the money, because Ebay/PayPal would have automatically sided with the buyer because he/she had tracking. No one deserves to be ripped off.

silvor 03-19-2018 06:50 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1758824)
What about someone who paid market price for a 1952 Mantle rookie and got shipped a 1959 Don Mossi PSA 5? That would still be the same hard case to prove with Ebay/PayPal since tracking showed that the seller delivered a package and recieved a package. Like the same thing that happened in my instance. Someone paid for my cards and wanted to return them and shipped back empty slabs. If I hadn't opened them up in front of a postal employee, I would be out the cards AND the money, because Ebay/PayPal would have automatically sided with the buyer because he/she had tracking. No one deserves to be ripped off.
I don't know if this would help of not with ebay/paypal, but my kid videotapes him packing and opening when he sells cards.

bnorth 03-19-2018 07:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by silvor (Post 1758825)
I don't know if this would help of not with ebay/paypal, but my kid videotapes him packing and opening when he sells cards.
It is probably a good idea. I just can't see how it would help because someone could do anything they wanted to the package before or after they stop videotaping.

bobbyw8469 03-19-2018 07:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 1758829)
It is probably a good idea. I just can't see how it would help because someone could do anything they wanted to the package before or after they stop videotaping.
Agreed...opening mine in front of the postal employee is what saved my ass. After all, he works for the government.

Republicaninmass 03-19-2018 08:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1756762)
what was the market price for that Ruth..

You know what they say

" if you pay light..the package is going to feel light "



Of all the incoherent posts you've made, this is the most insensitive and inconsiderate I can remember. This a community, and nobody should be so insensitive to another board member. Your follow up post is nothing more than an inadequate attempt to back peddle on your original comment.


You've already had Leon instill a rule about quoting BST prices. Are you proud of that or think you are somehow clever? If you don't plan on adding anything of value to this forum, I suggest you go play in different sandbox with some other children.

mechanicalman 03-19-2018 08:49 AM
Eddie and Ted:

Thank you for being voices of reason. To be honest, I try hard to ignore anything Jake says, and I have a rule not to engage with him. But when he insinuates that anyone, not just me, deserves to be the victim of theft, it doesn't sit well.

Again, even if, in the rare instance someone gets a "deal" on ebay, in no way do they deserve to receive less than what they paid for. I know others have had this happen, but it feels AWFUL when someone steals your money and you have to jump through hoops to get it back.

And for the record, the Ruth was an SGC 5.5, and in January 2015, Jake, that was certainly not a "light" price paid.

pokerplyr80 03-19-2018 10:23 AM
I can see Jake's point in general, but the comment shouldn't have been made in response to Sam's post. It would have been more appropriate in that thread about the guy who sent his bgs 9.5 Jordan RC, worth less than 10k, to Canada to trade for a PSA 9 opc Gretzky worth 30k.

Sam I do agree no one deserves to have their money stolen, but there are people who fall victim to their own stupidity as much as they do to a thief or scammer. I don't have much sympathy for them.

LuckyLarry 03-19-2018 04:27 PM
I'll report on my experience with Candiman Auctions. The first time I heard of the auction was when I read this thread. So of course I had to go take a look at the items:) and found several low-mid grade 1933 Goudey "Indian Gum" (non-sports) cards that I needed. The single cards I was interested in had a $5 opening bid with no bids yet placed. So I entered my max bid $5 on fourteen lots, and ended up winning 13 lots for the opening bid $5. I also bid on lot #231 a group of 19 "Indian Gum" cards, and had the winning bid for awhile $40, but was outbid.
No back scans were provided for any of these cards, and I didn't request any from Candiman. The front scans provided for the auction matched the cards I received exactly. In hand, the backs of the cards are quite nice, although one card described as VG-EX with a light crease had a small spot of paper loss on the back. I would expect worse looking cards for what I paid for these.

So my total was 13 lots won at $5 each $65 add $13 buyers premium and $10 shipping.

I was invoiced on Sunday March 11th, I paid via CC on Monday March 12, got my tracking number from Candiman Friday March 16, and my cards arrived today Monday March 19.

I am happy with my purchase, and glad to add these to my in progress set. These are really nice cards that I got. Without back scans I was expecting worse, of course I was only bidding $5 a card.

Larry Tipton

buymycards 03-19-2018 05:10 PM
Nothing so far
 
Hi Larry, I am glad that you received your cards. Like you, I received my invoice on Sunday the 11th. I paid with CC on Monday the 12th. So far I haven't received a tracking number. I sent them an email this morning but I haven't received a response.

I won 13 low cost lots, for $152, with a BP of around $30, and shipping of $12.00. The shipping charge isn't bad for 162 raw cards, although they would have easily fit in a Priority padded envelope for around $6.50.

Rick

buymycards 03-20-2018 03:04 AM
Update
 
I received a response to my email last night at 9:13 with a Fed Ex tracking number showing that my cards were shipped yesterday.


Rick

NYYFan63 03-20-2018 04:56 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LuckyLarry (Post 1759017)
I'll report on my experience with Candiman Auctions. The first time I heard of the auction was when I read this thread. So of course I had to go take a look at the items:) and found several low-mid grade 1933 Goudey "Indian Gum" (non-sports) cards that I needed. The single cards I was interested in had a $5 opening bid with no bids yet placed. So I entered my max bid $5 on fourteen lots, and ended up winning 13 lots for the opening bid $5. I also bid on lot #231 a group of 19 "Indian Gum" cards, and had the winning bid for awhile $40, but was outbid.

No back scans were provided for any of these cards, and I didn't request any from Candiman. The front scans provided for the auction matched the cards I received exactly. In hand, the backs of the cards are quite nice, although one card described as VG-EX with a light crease had a small spot of paper loss on the back. I would expect worse looking cards for what I paid for these.



So my total was 13 lots won at $5 each $65 add $13 buyers premium and $10 shipping.



I was invoiced on Sunday March 11th, I paid via CC on Monday March 12, got my tracking number from Candiman Friday March 16, and my cards arrived today Monday March 19.



I am happy with my purchase, and glad to add these to my in progress set. These are really nice cards that I got. Without back scans I was expecting worse, of course I was only bidding $5 a card.



Larry Tipton


Glad to hear you had a successful win at the Candiman Auctions Larry.

Best of luck to everyone else who won some auctions.


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Yoda 03-20-2018 01:28 PM
What a thread. Intrigue, insults, empathy, religious intolerance etc. From someone who walked through the Battlefields/War Eagle mine field auctions several times, I am happy to relate a couple of my experiences. I won and received one card that was photo shopped, a '55 Bowman Eddie Mathews described as nrmt. Well, it had a large blob of paper affixed and quite rightly received a PSA 1. I wanted to return it but no response from Carol. Another: When Leon outed the REA high grade "A" Mantles, which were subsequently offered up at nrmt etc., one was a '55 Bowman. I had purchased earlier the same issue which was subtly different than the REA one. It had been advertised as nrmt. PSA deemed it a vg 3. There must have been a hidden flaw I couldn't discover because it is a fine looking specimen Both these cards are currently in the current LOTG auction. And finally Carol offered up a batch of T206's some time back and went to great lengths in the description to contend they all measured right and would grade. All imperfections were detailed and clearly shown in the scans. I took a chance and won the Elberfield Washington and thank God it came back a PSA 6.5 and did well at auction, so I made some money. That only shows that not all their cards were misrepresented, as others have stated. Perhaps the sons are trying to atone for the sins of their parents and if that is the case, then good on them. The proof in the pudding will be when one of their high profile cards, such as the Red Heart Mantle, goes under the knife at a TPG. I say Candiman at least deserves a chance.

Sophiedog 03-20-2018 02:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoda (Post 1759295)
What a thread. Intrigue, insults, empathy, religious intolerance etc. From someone who walked through the Battlefields/War Eagle mine field auctions several times, I am happy to relate a couple of my experiences. I won and received one card that was photo shopped, a '55 Bowman Eddie Mathews described as nrmt. Well, it had a large blob of paper affixed and quite rightly received a PSA 1. I wanted to return it but no response from Carol. Another: When Leon outed the REA high grade "A" Mantles, which were subsequently offered up at nrmt etc., one was a '55 Bowman. I had purchased earlier the same issue which was subtly different than the REA one. It had been advertised as nrmt. PSA deemed it a vg 3. There must have been a hidden flaw I couldn't discover because it is a fine looking specimen Both these cards are currently in the current LOTG auction. And finally Carol offered up a batch of T206's some time back and went to great lengths in the description to contend they all measured right and would grade. All imperfections were detailed and clearly shown in the scans. I took a chance and won the Elberfield Washington and thank God it came back a PSA 6.5 and did well at auction, so I made some money. That only shows that not all their cards were misrepresented, as others have stated. Perhaps the sons are trying to atone for the sins of their parents and if that is the case, then good on them. The proof in the pudding will be when one of their high profile cards, such as the Red Heart Mantle, goes under the knife at a TPG. I say Candiman at least deserves a chance.
Great Post. I also think they deserve a chance and hope everyone is happy with their wins.

Peter_Spaeth 03-20-2018 04:15 PM
I see no religious intolerance, John, only an objection to invoking one's faith as a reason to trust them.

Stampsfan 03-20-2018 04:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1759351)
I see no religious intolerance, John, only an objection to invoking one's faith as a reason to trust them.
Well said Peter. Playing the "Religion Card" to "trust me" is a misguided attempt at engaging someone's trust.

Aquarian Sports Cards 03-20-2018 06:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1759351)
I see no religious intolerance, John, only an objection to invoking one's faith as a reason to trust them.
Quote:
Originally Posted by pclpads (Post 1755125)
Sorry if I offended your tender religious sensibilities.
Seems at least mildly intolerant, especially directed at someone who never expressed a religious opinion of any sort.

1952boyntoncollector 03-20-2018 06:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mechanicalman (Post 1758852)
Eddie and Ted:

Thank you for being voices of reason. To be honest, I try hard to ignore anything Jake says, and I have a rule not to engage with him. But when he insinuates that anyone, not just me, deserves to be the victim of theft, it doesn't sit well.

Again, even if, in the rare instance someone gets a "deal" on ebay, in no way do they deserve to receive less than what they paid for. I know others have had this happen, but it feels AWFUL when someone steals your money and you have to jump through hoops to get it back.

And for the record, the Ruth was an SGC 5.5, and in January 2015, Jake, that was certainly not a "light" price paid.
OK so now we know what the exact card is, i agree you didnt pay light for it. Its a shame that information is only shared now, and wasnt shared even after my other posts....only until now.. Still i havent back peddled on anything, if that same card in the same time frame was bought for $500, then i would expect a light package. If you just shared the info sooner that would of been nice because as you know on this forum people forget to include info on the threads sometimes that would support an opposite view.

I am not talking again about the rare deals you can get on ebay....its the guy with 2 feedback where you are paying 500 for a 5000 market price card..or so wierd new auction where 85% of the people are getting 'deals' Its all of those 'deal' seekers that keep the fraudsters active......

1952boyntoncollector 03-20-2018 06:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by pokerplyr80 (Post 1758872)
I can see Jake's point in general, but the comment shouldn't have been made in response to Sam's post. It would have been more appropriate in that thread about the guy who sent his bgs 9.5 Jordan RC, worth less than 10k, to Canada to trade for a PSA 9 opc Gretzky worth 30k.

Sam I do agree no one deserves to have their money stolen, but there are people who fall victim to their own stupidity as much as they do to a thief or scammer. I don't have much sympathy for them.
Yes I was talking generally because Sam or whoever did not share the actual card purchased and the year it was bought. So all i did was talk generally. In addition i abhor the scammer more than the idiot/greedy buyer generally. However everything is relative...

Yoda 03-20-2018 08:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1759351)
I see no religious intolerance, John, only an objection to invoking one's faith as a reason to trust them.
Peter, I agree that intolerance was probably a poor choice of words on my part. Sarcastic would have been better.

Peter_Spaeth 03-20-2018 08:29 PM
I have the Roy Orbison song stuck in my head from this thread.

(sings)

Go for me
Let me be
All your own candi, candi
Candiman

mantlefan 03-20-2018 09:12 PM
Roy O.
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1759437)
I have the Roy Orbison song stuck in my head from this thread.

(sings)

Go for me
Let me be
All your own candi, candi
Candiman
LOL, Peter. I can hear you humming all the way down here on Long Island.

Paul S 03-21-2018 09:48 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1759351)
I see no religious intolerance, John, only an objection to invoking one's faith as a reason to trust them.
Yes, and is a breach of easily accessible and basic Net54 cardinal sins - unless one is discussing Musial:) - or, received a torpedo in one's hull, in which case...

Paul S 03-21-2018 09:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1759394)
OK so now we know what the exact card is, i agree you didnt pay light for it. Its a shame that information is only shared now, and wasnt shared even after my other posts....only until now.. Still i havent back peddled on anything, if that same card in the same time frame was bought for $500, then i would expect a light package. If you just shared the info sooner that would of been nice because as you know on this forum people forget to include info on the threads sometimes that would support an opposite view.

Its all of those 'deal' seekers that keep the fraudsters active......
That would be Lance Armstrong - were he with us today.

steve B 03-21-2018 09:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul S (Post 1759539)
That would be Lance Armstrong - were he with us today.
Ummm...

Peddle = sell
Pedal = what you do on a bike

Paul S 03-21-2018 10:09 AM
I stand corrected...and so does my kickstand.

Peter_Spaeth 03-21-2018 11:01 AM
This is the 10th day since the auction, but (unless I missed it) we have not heard yet from anyone who purchased a relatively high dollar raw card.

ullmandds 03-21-2018 11:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1759564)
This is the 10th day since the auction, but (unless I missed it) we have not heard yet from anyone who purchased a relatively high dollar raw card.
Agreed...but those people are going to have to wait a long long time for PSa to "evaluate" their winnings.

Peter_Spaeth 03-21-2018 11:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1759570)
Agreed...but those people are going to have to wait a long long time for PSa to "evaluate" their winnings.
Yes of course but many people here presumably are knowledgeable enough to spot a card that was overgraded.

vintagetoppsguy 03-21-2018 11:25 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1759574)
Yes of course but many people here presumably are knowledgeable enough to spot a card that was overgraded.
Or altered.

pokerplyr80 03-21-2018 11:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1759564)
This is the 10th day since the auction, but (unless I missed it) we have not heard yet from anyone who purchased a relatively high dollar raw card.
Ed said he bought the 52 Jackie and would update once he submits to psa.

Peter_Spaeth 03-21-2018 12:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy (Post 1759576)
Or altered.
Indeed.

bensie 03-21-2018 12:49 PM
I got a relatively low value Reggie Jackson RC yesterday. The card was just as described; I'm happy with it. It's a <$100 card though, so this probably doesn't help. LOL.

LeftHandedDane 03-22-2018 10:54 AM
I just received my package from the auction today. I purchased 3 cards that fell into the $250-$350 range (each). One of the cards was represented by Candiman as "Authentic"; the others were not (one was described as EX-MT+; the other as NM).

The Authentic card has definitely been trimmed and probably soaked. I knew that prior to bidding and factored that into my bid and therefore do not feel at all misled by the auctioneer.

Knowing the track record of Battlefield, my biggest concern with the two other cards was that the cards I would receive would not match what was pictured in the auction. So the first thing I did was hold the actual card up next to the picture for comparison. Other than brightening the image, I could not see any signs of alterations that had been made. For example, there is a small stain in the border on the front of one card which appears clearly in the photo as well. Similarly, there are small stains on the back of the same card which appear in the photo.

I am a raw card collector so I do not plan to submit any of these cards for grading. I do think I am pretty good at assigning grades, and I do not feel that the cards were overgraded - at least no more than a half grade. I do not think these cards have been altered - they measure out OK and I can detect no other signs but I am not an expert at detecting everything.

One other comment on this auction worth noting - there was absolutely no evidence of any shill bidding. Probably because so many buyers shied away from this one, but it was refreshing for me to feel like the bids were on the level.

My conclusion is that my experience with this auction was positive, and I would certainly bid in future auctions should they have items of interest to me.

ullmandds 03-22-2018 11:01 AM
Cardiman Auctions...the auction house house for "true collectors" who don't care about having their cards graded.

They have a niche!

frankbmd 03-22-2018 11:08 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ullmandds (Post 1759905)
Cardiman Auctions...the auction house house for "true collectors" who don't care about having their cards graded.

They have a niche!
Cardiman Auctions

The auction house house for “true collectors” who cannot spell or proofread

Hi Pete

I would also note that even my spellchecker changed cardiman to candiman.:eek::D

ullmandds 03-22-2018 11:23 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by frankbmd (Post 1759906)
Cardiman Auctions

The auction house house for “true collectors” who cannot spell or proofread

Hi Pete

I would also note that even my spellchecker changed cardiman to candiman.:eek::D
ya...that was a conscious error, Frank. I think Cardiman sounds better...or maybe Cartman!

ullmandds 03-22-2018 11:33 AM
or cardamum!

Peter_Spaeth 03-22-2018 11:35 AM
Cardashian?

frankbmd 03-22-2018 11:40 AM
Show me the Card Fax in all candiman auctions.

ullmandds 03-22-2018 12:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1759928)
Cardashian?
you'd probably get sued!

REDSOX42 03-22-2018 12:55 PM
I just received my cards. I won 30+ 1940's Bowman, 1950's Topps Red Sox cards. I looked the cards over in detail and found all to be accurately graded. No problems, no issues, no surprises. The '50 Bowman Ted Williams (EX) and the '60 Topps Yaz rookie (NM) were a pleasant surprise and graded correctly.
I also won 2 Wheaties panels, Joe D. and Gabby Hartnett. Both were graded as described. All items were packed very well/professionally.

From my perspective (on this auction) I thought Daniel did a good job. I spoke with him a number of times and found him to be open to my concerns and honest in our discussions.

Look forward to hearing from others...

buymycards 03-22-2018 01:53 PM
Winnings
 
I received my package today. It was securely packaged and it had the correct contents. None of these cards included back scans, so I was a little worried. The backs were all fine except for 2 1970 Topps BB commons that had writing. The other 160+ cards were better overall than the described grades for the lots.

I am pleased with the items that I won, although I didn't bid on any high dollar cards or on any cards that were described as authentic.

Rick

NYYFan63 03-22-2018 02:29 PM
Thanks to all who are sharing their experiences with Candiman Auctions. I am glad to hear those who won their auctions are satisfied with the cards they received.

I did not participate as I am focused on completing a 1972 Topps BB set which I am a few cards from completing.

With that said, I will look to participate in future Candiman auctions.

Kudos to those who gave them a chance.

Congrats!


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slipk1068 03-22-2018 04:06 PM
Look out, look out the Candyman, Here he comes and he's gone again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvbHdlplEvw

Republicaninmass 03-22-2018 04:42 PM
Please post TPG results when they come back

bigfish 03-22-2018 05:14 PM
The candiman can...
 
I am with Ted. Looking forward to seeing those near mint cards in holders.

Until then I am not convinced these two jokers are totally out to make their business great again....





Toby Petersen

botn 03-22-2018 05:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigfish (Post 1760039)
I am with Ted. Looking forward to seeing those near mint cards in holders.

Until then I am not convinced these two jokers are totally out to make their business great again....
So far we only have updates from people who do not care if their cards are graded correctly or they won items that were worth a few bucks each. Nobody here has admitted to having bought one of Candiman's higher dollar cards.

NYYFan63 03-22-2018 05:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by slipk1068 (Post 1760021)
Look out, look out the Candyman, Here he comes and he's gone again



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvbHdlplEvw

Very nice SlipK1068. BIG fan


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Jenx34 03-22-2018 08:41 PM
Candiman Update
 
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I placed some bids on cards I felt comfortable with. Overall, I still don't feel real comfortable with them, but I can't bash the cards themselves. But I didn't buy any high dollar NM cards either. I felt kind of dirty bidding and winning cards from them and still do. Maybe that's fair or not, but it's reality.

1. I paid quickly on Sunday when I got my invoice. Didn't hear anything back from them and there was no update in status in the My Account Section. I emailed Tuesday evening asking for an expected ship date and if their website would update with tracking info. Got crickets. Emailed again on Friday and they replied stating they would send me tracking info the next day. They sent the tracking info, but didn't tell me it was FedEx so all weekend I kept wondering if I got a bogus tracking #. Monday night I got an email from FedEx stating the expected delivery. Would have liked to see a little quicker communication even if just an expected ship date or more timely updates on their site.
2. Cards were packed okay with one exception. I won 8 individual cards + 1 20 card low/mid grade lot of 1955 Topps commons, so 28 cards total. Cards packed in a oversized box with lots of peanuts. Inside was a smaller box with the cards. Individual cards were in either Card Saver I's or top loaders. Graded Cards (3) in a team bag together. The 20 1955's were in a plastic baggie with no other protection. Wasn't a fan of that, but they were packed in the box tightly so I doubt there was any damage. Hell they were lower grade, I wouldn't know anyway.
3. The only "expensive" card I won was a 1953 Topps Satchel Paige VGEX. I could pretty much tell it wasn't VGEX from the pic and bid accordingly. I checked and it measured correctly. I figure it will grade a PSA 2 - PSA 3. I can make a few bucks if it grades a 2, and do okay if it gets a 3. But there is no way in hell it will see a 4. Pic attached. Note the back was fine and similar to the front.
4. The other cards I got were:
- A beater '54 Bowman Pee Wee Reese which I picked up for $5 for a friend.
- 1972 Pete Rose NMMT (I'll have it graded). Card looks nice, but I expect a 7.
- 1984 Fleer Don Mattingly - Mint+ - I grew up a big Mattingly fan so I took a flyer. It's a sharp card, so I could see a nice 8 or 9. I'll send it to PSA, but it's a PC card for sure.
- 1985 Mark McGwire - 1 raw NMMT+ - again, nice card. I could see anything from a 7-9.
Bought 3 low dollar graded cards as well.
So overall, I can't say they did a bad job, but I think they still have a long way to go to win over someone like me who was and is still very skeptical. I know they were busy preparing a lot of orders to ship, but they were also taking the time to buy a lot of cards at the same time. So expect more raw cards in their next auction. More to come on that...

vintagetoppsguy 03-22-2018 08:48 PM
The Paige has decent eye appeal. I would guess a 2.5 or 3.

Jenx34 03-22-2018 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy (Post 1760121)
The Paige has decent eye appeal. I would guess a 2.5 or 3.
That's what I'm hoping. The crease in his cap is more of a wrinkle as you can't see or feel anything from it on the back. The biggest thing that will hurt it is the rounded corners. My guess because of the centering and eye appeal is a 2.5. I probably won't send it in until next month (see what April specials are available) on a 10+ card $10 bulk. But that is a 50-day turnaround now, so it will be awhile before I get results.

slidekellyslide 03-22-2018 10:15 PM
Stuff trumps all.

The end.

NYYFan63 03-22-2018 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Jenx34 (Post 1760119)
I placed some bids on cards I felt comfortable with. Overall, I still don't feel real comfortable with them, but I can't bash the cards themselves. But I didn't buy any high dollar NM cards either. I felt kind of dirty bidding and winning cards from them and still do. Maybe that's fair or not, but it's reality.



1. I paid quickly on Sunday when I got my invoice. Didn't hear anything back from them and there was no update in status in the My Account Section. I emailed Tuesday evening asking for an expected ship date and if their website would update with tracking info. Got crickets. Emailed again on Friday and they replied stating they would send me tracking info the next day. They sent the tracking info, but didn't tell me it was FedEx so all weekend I kept wondering if I got a bogus tracking #. Monday night I got an email from FedEx stating the expected delivery. Would have liked to see a little quicker communication even if just an expected ship date or more timely updates on their site.

2. Cards were packed okay with one exception. I won 8 individual cards + 1 20 card low/mid grade lot of 1955 Topps commons, so 28 cards total. Cards packed in a oversized box with lots of peanuts. Inside was a smaller box with the cards. Individual cards were in either Card Saver I's or top loaders. Graded Cards (3) in a team bag together. The 20 1955's were in a plastic baggie with no other protection. Wasn't a fan of that, but they were packed in the box tightly so I doubt there was any damage. Hell they were lower grade, I wouldn't know anyway.

3. The only "expensive" card I won was a 1953 Topps Satchel Paige VGEX. I could pretty much tell it wasn't VGEX from the pic and bid accordingly. I checked and it measured correctly. I figure it will grade a PSA 2 - PSA 3. I can make a few bucks if it grades a 2, and do okay if it gets a 3. But there is no way in hell it will see a 4. Pic attached. Note the back was fine and similar to the front.

4. The other cards I got were:

- A beater '54 Bowman Pee Wee Reese which I picked up for $5 for a friend.

- 1972 Pete Rose NMMT (I'll have it graded). Card looks nice, but I expect a 7.

- 1984 Fleer Don Mattingly - Mint+ - I grew up a big Mattingly fan so I took a flyer. It's a sharp card, so I could see a nice 8 or 9. I'll send it to PSA, but it's a PC card for sure.

- 1985 Mark McGwire - 1 raw NMMT+ - again, nice card. I could see anything from a 7-9.

Bought 3 low dollar graded cards as well.

So overall, I can't say they did a bad job, but I think they still have a long way to go to win over someone like me who was and is still very skeptical. I know they were busy preparing a lot of orders to ship, but they were also taking the time to buy a lot of cards at the same time. So expect more raw cards in their next auction. More to come on that...


How do you know they were buying a lot of raw cards?


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bobbyw8469 03-23-2018 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy (Post 1760121)
The Paige has decent eye appeal. I would guess a 2.5 or 3.
I was an underbidder on that Paige. I just didn't see it getting higher than a '2' if it was unaltered, and with the backstory on the cards, the odds were pretty good that some of those might come back "A". I bid accordingly.

vintagetoppsguy 03-23-2018 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1760192)
I just didn't see it getting higher than a '2' if it was unaltered
I'm not sure how they would grade that right border. Would that be considered paper loss or chipping? If they consider it chipping, I can see it getting a 3, maybe even a 3.5. If it's paper loss, maybe even as low as a 1.5. I don't submit to PSA, so I'm not familiar with their grading standards.

bobbyw8469 03-23-2018 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by vintagetoppsguy (Post 1760297)
I'm not sure how they would grade that right border. Would that be considered paper loss or chipping? If they consider it chipping, I can see it getting a 3, maybe even a 3.5. If it's paper loss, maybe even as low as a 1.5. I don't submit to PSA, so I'm not familiar with their grading standards.
They consider it "chipping", but I was looking at the four corners and the creased corner on the bottom right. They are too fuzzy. I bet money it would grade a '2', give or take a half. No way was it a '4' like they described. Plus it has a wrinkle running from the top down thru his cap. If the card '3's, I would sell it as quick as I could before the grader changed his mind.

1952boyntoncollector 03-23-2018 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1760303)
They consider it "chipping", but I was looking at the four corners and the creased corner on the bottom right. They are too fuzzy. I bet money it would grade a '2', give or take a half. No way was it a '4' like they described. Plus it has a wrinkle running from the top down thru his cap. If the card '3's, I would sell it as quick as I could before the grader changed his mind.
so you are saying they didnt describe the card accurately at all to say its a 4..with zero chance to be a 4...or at least 99 out of a 100 chance.....

bobbyw8469 03-23-2018 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector (Post 1760337)
so you are saying they didnt describe the card accurately at all to say its a 4..with zero chance to be a 4...or at least 99 out of a 100 chance.....
I'm saying that card will not '4'. It will probably '2'...the winning bidder thinks it will '2' and would be pleased with a '3' grade. Based upon where they got the cards from, let's hope the cards grade at all. Not a knock against Candiman, but their relatives were pure shysters. No, I'm not a professional grader, but I have sent enough cards to PSA that I know what they look for.

Jenx34 03-23-2018 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1760341)
I'm saying that card will not '4'. It will probably '2'...the winning bidder thinks it will '2' and would be pleased with a '3' grade. Based upon where they got the cards from, let's hope the cards grade at all. Not a knock against Candiman, but their relatives were pure shysters. No, I'm not a professional grader, but I have sent enough cards to PSA that I know what they look for.
In response to the previous poster you replied to, I would say yeah, they over graded the card. I see 0% of a chance it will grade a 4. The corners are just too rounded. I bid and paid figuring I would be okay if it graded a 2, but hopeful for a 2.5 or 3. I'd be shocked and very happy if it sees a 3.5, but that is not my expectation. The chipping, the wrinkle, the rounding corners, etc all fit within PSA's guidelines for a 3. But add them all up and it could easily see a 2 or 2.5 because it is well centered and the surface and color is actually pretty nice.

I will certainly report back when I get it back from PSA, but unfortunately that's probably 3 months from now. Of course there is worry it doesn't grade. If it doesn't then we will truly see if they will back their words.

Batpig 03-23-2018 03:56 PM
I wouldn't worry about that card not grading. It doesn't fit the Battlefield standard for cracked auths. For that situation they pretty much stuck to cards that looked NM or better.

Jenx34 03-23-2018 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Batpig (Post 1760350)
I wouldn't worry about that card not grading. It doesn't fit the Battlefield standard for cracked auths. For that situation they pretty much stuck to cards that looked NM or better.
That was pretty much my thinking when I bid on it. Of course, one never knows.

Peter_Spaeth 03-23-2018 04:39 PM
I think 2.5, gets the half grade for nice centering. Good luck to you.

Republicaninmass 03-23-2018 04:47 PM
Doesn't mean the lower edge hasn't been touched up. It's hard to tell if there is bleeding to the edge. Did you blacklight it?

ezez420 03-28-2018 06:40 AM
Agree with Peter. 2.5 and not more.


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Peter_Spaeth 03-28-2018 02:14 PM
I had hoped there would be more feedback on the cards, particularly the higher end ones. I don't feel that at this point, I know any more than I did before the auction.

bobbyw8469 03-28-2018 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1762024)
I had hoped there would be more feedback on the cards, particularly the higher end ones. I don't feel that at this point, I know any more than I did before the auction.
Personally, I chose to stay away from the NM/MT specimens. I am curious as well though, but I'm sure people won't know until they come back from PSA. In 4-5 months, I expect results to come trickling in.

Peter_Spaeth 03-28-2018 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1762026)
Personally, I chose to stay away from the NM/MT specimens. I am curious as well though, but I'm sure people won't know until they come back from PSA. In 4-5 months, I expect results to come trickling in.
I am sure many if not most guys here can detect an obvious flaw that wasn't apparent from the scan, without needing PSA to tell them about it. I might not be able to detect expert microtrimming, but I could certainly tell if corners had more wear than the scan and grade suggested, or if there were wrinkles or stains, etc. etc.

Jenx34 03-28-2018 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1762024)
I had hoped there would be more feedback on the cards, particularly the higher end ones. I don't feel that at this point, I know any more than I did before the auction.
Peter, I think you're right. I gave the feedback I could, but I didn't delve into any of the higher end stuff. I did make a roughly $300 bid for one of the 1960 raw Mantle's but got outbid late. My only purchase where there could be good feedback is on that '53 Satchell Paige, but even that is limited. I participated, but still don't feel comfortable jumping in with both feet with them.

I'll wait until April 7 and see what they are offering in their next auction and I may have some good info for you on the cards they may offer. I have some info but I would rather wait to see what cards they post and how they list them before going deeper.

Jenx34 03-28-2018 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by bobbyw8469 (Post 1762026)
Personally, I chose to stay away from the NM/MT specimens. I am curious as well though, but I'm sure people won't know until they come back from PSA. In 4-5 months, I expect results to come trickling in.
The only NMMT cards I won were a 1972 Pete Rose, 1984 Fleer Don Mattingly and 1985 Topps McGwire. I'd be surprised if any grades less than a 7, so I would have to give them a pass there, but those are low dollar "newer" cards.

I'll be submitting those 3 and the '53 Paige early in April. So we'll know by maybe late July?

Aquarian Sports Cards 03-28-2018 03:14 PM
Like a lot of others I only bid on lower end stuff. I won most of the Berk Ross cards.

iowadoc77 03-28-2018 03:52 PM
Maybe someone will go to a show and get a card graded on site, but unlikely due to on-site fees

bnorth 03-28-2018 04:43 PM
I will say as one of the morons who stuck up for Daniel I STILL have not received my cards or even a tracking # that they are on the way.:mad:

ezez420 03-28-2018 04:50 PM
Really? I thought he was good sending out to people. I got mine no problem


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Peter_Spaeth 03-28-2018 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 1762077)
I will say as one of the morons who stuck up for Daniel I STILL have not received my cards or even a tracking # that they are on the way.:mad:
Ben sorry to hear that. Have you called or written?

bnorth 03-28-2018 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 1762094)
Ben sorry to hear that. Have you called or written?
Emailed with no response yet.

EDIT: Just heard back and they are being sent out tomorrow. I sent a check and knew it would be delayed but didn't figure it would be this long.

Peter_Spaeth 03-28-2018 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by bnorth (Post 1762099)
Emailed with no response yet.

EDIT: Just heard back and they are being sent out tomorrow. I sent a check and knew it would be delayed but didn't figure it would be this long.
Good.


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