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ripfan008 01-14-2020 08:11 AM

[QUOTE=BaltOrioles;1946989]All of the Orioles from the Salada and Shirriff coin sets were originally issued in orange. It is fairly easy to swap out the paper inserts with another color if the plastic on the original coin is damaged. It is also easy to swap Salada and Shirriff coins. There is a post earlier that says which coins were issued with each type back.


Thank you Alan. I went back, found, and saved your original post on the subject. I appreciate the information,

Mike

Mark70Z 01-14-2020 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BaltOrioles (Post 1946958)
I'm really enjoying all the items people are posting so far. It's always fun to see stuff you don't have in your personal collection and hear the stories behind them.

One of my passions is the history of the Orioles franchise from 1954 to present. I know some of you also collect stuff from the minor league Orioles before 1954 which is also very interesting. I guess the main reason, I've avoided collecting minor league Orioles items, is that the roots of the current Orioles team come through the St. Louis Browns franchise. I believe at least a couple of the old Orioles teams can be traced forward to the current Yankees and Detroit Tigers franchises. Maybe someday, I'll get the itch to expand my collection to the Browns.

That passion for history has led me to collect photos of every player to ever appear in an Orioles game, but they must be pictured in an Orioles uniform. There are a couple players I still need to find.

Wally Westlake 1955 (I know a photo of him exists)
John Buzhardt 1967 (Many photos as an Astro or White Sox, but have never seen an Oriole photo)

I thought some of you might enjoy a challenge. Over the next few days, I'll post pics of some Orioles and let you try and identify them. Hint: All of these players have appeared for at least one major league game with the Orioles.

Hint #2: They all have something in common when they played for the Orioles. Some will be easier than others.

I hope you have fun.

Player #1

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Alan,

You know I’m terrible at this so I’ll go with the 1st person that came to my mind when I saw #1 - Vern Stephens (I hope he at least resembles him...)

Hey, you put a picture of Brooks and I’m likely to guess right every time...:D

Mark70Z 01-14-2020 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by OriolesHOF (Post 1946973)
T206 Baltimore team set with a Jack Dunn signed check.

Hal,

What an excellent display. Not only do you have some great items, but they look great displayed; great work!

Mark70Z 01-14-2020 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by OriolesHOF (Post 1946977)
Mark - As with most of us, I collect what I like. This includes more than just the Orioles. With respect to bats, it started with the Orioles HOF plaques on Eutaw Street near Boogs BBQ. Took one look at all the familiar players on the wall and decided to obtain at least one game used bat from their playing days with the O's. I do have other HOF'er bats, decal bats, mushroom bats, ring bats, etc.

I have a run of yearbooks 1954 - 2000 but the Hartzell covers are my favorites. James Hartzell drew the first Orioles cartoon bird.

I also have a run of team signed balls from 1954 - 1990. Pictured are some key Orioles baseballs with the '54 and '55 (bottom row starting on the left) having two players, Howie Fox and Tom Gastall who died during their playing days. In 1955, Fox was stabbed to death in a bar room incident and in 1956 Gastall crashed a small plane into the Chesapeake.

The metal Orioles Route sign hung outside Memorial Stadium and came from the City of Baltimore. The Mezzanine sign hung inside the stadium.

WOW! Just awesome...

Mark70Z 01-14-2020 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by quitcrab (Post 1946982)
This one doesn't show up often on Ebay or at card shows. It was used as a coupon (save .70 cents) for a baseball so not many survived.

Scott,

You picked a GREAT one today. I remember the first time I saw that card and just had to have it. It has such a great setup and you rarely see this come up for sale.

Mark70Z 01-14-2020 04:12 PM

Mezzanine #5
 
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Originally Posted by OriolesHOF (Post 1946977)
The Mezzanine sign hung inside the stadium.

I guess I can only relate to ONE thing...

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OriolesHOF 01-14-2020 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark70Z (Post 1947126)
Hal,

What an excellent display. Not only do you have some great items, but they look great displayed; great work!

Correctional Industries! The inmate furniture shop produces good quality at a fraction of what you would pay on the street. Just takes a little longer to manufacture but time in most cases is not really an issue.

OriolesHOF 01-14-2020 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark70Z (Post 1947133)
I guess I can only relate to ONE thing...

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You do know the 1969 WS Mets 3rd baseman, "The Glider" Ed Charles wore #5.

Mark70Z 01-15-2020 02:03 AM

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Day 15 (January 15, 2020 – 015)

Sports Collectors Digest, from January 15, 1979 picturing Brooks at a night game; very cool pose and angle by the photographer. This is the same pose used on a local baseball card set put out in the Baltimore area called, “Pictures of Champions”; a small card set of some of the Orioles players.

Sports Collectors Digest January 15, 1979

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1970 Baltimore Pictures of Champions #5

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Mark70Z 01-15-2020 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by OriolesHOF (Post 1947173)
You do know other 3rd baseman wore #5.

Hal,

As my wife would say, "You 'THINK' your funny"...;)

Mark70Z 01-15-2020 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by OriolesHOF (Post 1947168)
Correctional Industries! The inmate furniture shop produces good quality at a fraction of what you would pay on the street. Just takes a little longer to manufacture but time in most cases is not really an issue.

I've been working to make our extra room (den) a place to display my junk; it's just a continual work in progress. It was pretty much finished a few years ago and my son got married and moved out into another house. I gave him most of the furniture, television, etc. So, now it's just a process to purchase furniture, display cabinets, to get it back into shape. Plus I wanted to go with a somewhat neater look than just stuff everywhere this time around. Your room is definitely motivation to make my room A LOT better.

Mark70Z 01-15-2020 02:51 AM

Boog
 
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Posted for Clint (ksfarmboy). 1974 Orioles home John "Boog" Powell jersey. Man this jersey looks good!

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quitcrab 01-15-2020 04:55 AM

Pictures of Champions
 
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Here are some more of the "Pictures of Champions" set.

BaltOrioles 01-15-2020 07:06 AM

Orioles photos
 
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Originally Posted by BaltOrioles (Post 1946958)

I thought some of you might enjoy a challenge. Over the next few days, I'll post pics of some Orioles and let you try and identify them. Hint: All of these players have appeared for at least one major league game with the Orioles.

Hint #2: They all have something in common when they played for the Orioles. Some will be easier than others.

I hope you have fun.

Player #1

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Player #2

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Player #3

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Player #4

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Player #5

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Player #6

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Only one guess from Mark, so for those of you interested, here's the list of yesterday's mystery Orioles.

1. Hoot Evers
2. Craig Gentry
3. Kelly Johnson
4. Don Lenhardt
5. Ike Delock
6. Lou Montanez

All of the players wore #14 when they appeared with the Orioles.

On a side note. Lou Montanez won the triple crown in 2008 with the Bowie BaySox (AA) and hit a home run in his first at bat with the Orioles.

BaltOrioles 01-15-2020 07:16 AM

Orioles Photos
 
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Today's photos highlight the five Orioles that accomplished the rare feat of hitting for the cycle (1B, 2B, 3B, HR) in a game.

Two of the players are easy Brooks Robinson and Cal Ripken Jr. Do you know the other three?

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Mark70Z 01-15-2020 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BaltOrioles (Post 1947264)
Today's photos highlight the five Orioles that accomplished the rare feat of hitting for the cycle (1B, 2B, 3B, HR) in a game.

Two of the players are easy Brooks Robinson and Cal Ripken Jr. Do you know the other three?

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#5. Jonathan Villar - think I got this one right since this didn’t occur that long ago.

I guessed at #1 the last go around, but I did know #4; was giving others an opportunity.

By the way I know you’ve got to be getting tired of those Brooksie items I “need”, like the 8x10 pictured. I need to bug someone else besides Scott (quitcrab) for items. I’m sure he’d appreciate it...

orioles70 01-15-2020 10:03 AM

I have been inspired to go into my Oriole archive and pull out some things I have neglected to look at for far too long...here are a couple 1969 Supershttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...b5f408844d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...ffd05bb60b.jpg

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orioles70 01-15-2020 11:11 AM

Here are a couple 1967 Topps Test Discshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...ee42e2747b.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...75d5327979.jpg

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orioles70 01-15-2020 11:18 AM

A pretty tough 1974 Topps Deckle Edgehttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...2bf74e4ba2.jpg

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orioles70 01-15-2020 11:21 AM

Another tough one to find in nice condition is the 1973 Tppps Pin-uphttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...f3fabec9c2.jpg

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ksfarmboy 01-15-2020 12:41 PM

Alan all I know is I need that last Brooks photo you showed.

Orioles70, that’s some good stuff right there.

orioles70 01-15-2020 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ksfarmboy (Post 1947356)
Alan all I know is I need that last Brooks photo you showed.



Orioles70, that’s some good stuff right there.

Thanks...here are a couple of nice 1974 Palmer itemshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...0206692fa6.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...9d01b6a788.jpg

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BaltOrioles 01-15-2020 01:30 PM

Brooks Robinson
 
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Originally Posted by ksfarmboy (Post 1947356)
Alan all I know is I need that last Brooks photo you showed.

Orioles70, that’s some good stuff right there.

Clint,

I agree. Orioles70, those are some nice seldom seen items. Is the 1974 Deckle the white back or gray back version? Thanks to Mark a couple years ago, I have the gray back. White backs are a little tougher.

The Brooks photo may be his first team issued 8x10 photo. It's dated 1957 on the back, so I guess there's a possibility of a photo printed in 1955 or 56. I know the early team issued Brooks stuff doesn't show up very often.

Mark70Z 01-15-2020 02:58 PM

"Picture of Champions"
 
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Originally Posted by quitcrab (Post 1947252)
Here are some more of the "Pictures of Champions" set.

To me these cards are so cool looking. The "Pictures of Champions" set were 16 cards and are numbered by their uniform. Of course I think the Brooks #5 looks the best in the set, but the one's Scott pictured are not bad at all.

Mark70Z 01-15-2020 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BaltOrioles (Post 1947373)
Clint,

I agree. Orioles70, those are some nice seldom seen items. Is the 1974 Deckle the white back or gray back version? Thanks to Mark a couple years ago, I have the gray back. White backs are a little tougher.

The Brooks photo may be his first team issued 8x10 photo. It's dated 1957 on the back, so I guess there's a possibility of a photo printed in 1955 or 56. I know the early team issued Brooks stuff doesn't show up very often.

Alan,

I've seen the 1957 Brooks before, but haven't seen any earlier. I don't have it, but I've at least seen another one. I've seen earlier pictures of Brooks, but they weren't team issued. Keep your connections open for another one please...

Mark70Z 01-15-2020 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by orioles70 (Post 1947312)
I have been inspired to go into my Oriole archive and pull out some things I have neglected to look at for far too long.

Man, I'm very glad you were inspired that's for sure. You've pictured some nice and some extremely rare items in the grouping of pictures. Thanks so much for posting these items.

I especially like the '74 Deckle, '69 Super and the '73 Pin-up. I'm with Alan, white or grey back on the Deckle? I'm a fan of the '67 Test Discs as well. Do you happen to have any more of this test issue?

roarfrom34 01-15-2020 05:05 PM

Back in the mid 1980's I wrote a letter to Jim Hartzell which he kindly responded to & included a vintage original drawing (which he personalized):

https://i.imgur.com/Z6McJKn.jpg

orioles70 01-15-2020 05:56 PM

That is a really nice item to have...I love the Hartzell bird

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orioles70 01-15-2020 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mark70Z (Post 1947405)
Man, I'm very glad you were inspired that's for sure. You've pictured some nice and some extremely rare items in the grouping of pictures. Thanks so much for posting these items.



I especially like the '74 Deckle, '69 Super and the '73 Pin-up. I'm with Alan, white or grey back on the Deckle? I'm a fan of the '67 Test Discs as well. Do you happen to have any more of this test issue?

Thanks for the comments...the Deckle Edge of Brooks and Palmer are the Gray back variations.

Here is really tough piece from my stash...a 1967 Topps Stand-Up Frank Robinsonhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...250f3dc35f.jpg

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quitcrab 01-15-2020 06:13 PM

Let me know when your ready to get rid of the 67 Frank Stand Up! That is an awesome card ! I am so glad Brooks wasn’t in the set. Very nice collection of test issue Orioles . Scott

Mark70Z 01-15-2020 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by roarfrom34 (Post 1947431)
Back in the mid 1980's I wrote a letter to Jim Hartzell which he kindly responded to & included a vintage original drawing (which he personalized):

https://i.imgur.com/Z6McJKn.jpg

Bill,

That piece is impressive. Like many of you I’m a fan of the Hartzell bird as well.

Mark70Z 01-15-2020 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by orioles70 (Post 1947451)
Thanks for the comments...the Deckle Edge of Brooks and Palmer are the Gray back variations.

Here is really tough piece from my stash...a 1967 Topps Stand-Up Frank Robinsonhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...250f3dc35f.jpg

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That’s definitely a rare item. Thanks so much for sharing the F. Robby standup.

orioles70 01-15-2020 08:43 PM

Thanks...here are some nice mid 60's Bazooka panels w/Brookshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...7b9afee59d.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...5bafc30b8c.jpg

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Mark70Z 01-16-2020 02:07 AM

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Alan (BaltOrioles) is the expert on basically everything Orioles related (programs to include minor league, picture packs, postcards, team issue photos…well, you get the drift; “everything”. In fact it’s even rumored that he was a ball player for a minor league Orioles team. Well, he’s been very generous and helpful when it comes to Orioles items and sent me the two following team issue postcards. They are a 1977 team issue postcard (less green on the bottom right) and a 1978 team issue postcard (more green bottom right). At the time I didn’t even know there was a difference.

1977 Postcard

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1978 Postcard

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Mark70Z 01-16-2020 02:19 AM

Bazooka
 
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Originally Posted by orioles70 (Post 1947486)
Thanks...here are some nice mid 60's Bazooka panels w/Brooks

orioles70... The Bazooka panels are awesome! Thanks so much for digging them out for all to see. I've been collecting Brooks for quite some time now and still don't have some of the items you've listed. When I started the thread I was hoping I'd see some nice Orioles or possibly a few Brooks items, but it's been wonderful to view others collections and the quality of items they have in their collections. Thanks so much for posting; appreciate it.

ripfan008 01-16-2020 04:19 AM

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Orioles70, very nice set of test issues. I imagine the 1967 Stand Up Frank (and the associated straight-edge proof) will be on my want list for a long time.

Here are a few more Orioles odds and ends from my collection:

1959 Home Run Derby Gus Triandos:
http://net54baseball.com/attachment....1&d=1579173258

1959 Kiwanis Club Ernie Johnson:
http://net54baseball.com/attachment....1&d=1579173258

1964 Rawlings Glove Box Brooks:
http://net54baseball.com/attachment....1&d=1579173258

1967 Topps Punch-Out Boog (3-card strip):
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ripfan008 01-16-2020 04:23 AM

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And a few more:

1968 Topps Test Disc Frank Robinson (Of course the crease takes away from the eye appeal but it's probably the only reason I was able to acquire it):
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A ticket stub from Al Kaline's final game (against the Orioles, Brooks was the starting 3rd baseman):
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Jim Palmer's jersey from his aborted comeback with the Orioles in spring 1991 (purchased directly from his ex-wife):
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quitcrab 01-16-2020 04:54 AM

Brooks Koolan
 
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Keep That Head Cool ! A Really "Cool" Piece!

quitcrab 01-16-2020 04:56 AM

Brooks Koolan
 
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You really think this thing works?

ripfan008 01-16-2020 05:03 AM

Quitcrab, I've never seen either of those items and I love them. No problem with players back then picking up a few extra bucks by promoting quackery.

ksfarmboy 01-16-2020 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ripfan008 (Post 1947520)
Quitcrab, I've never seen either of those items and I love them. No problem with players back then picking up a few extra bucks by promoting quackery.

Agree I’ve never seen those either. That pic is great.

orioles70 01-16-2020 05:51 AM

Lots of nice items being shown here...this thread is a must see for any O's fan/collector

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roarfrom34 01-16-2020 05:52 AM

Most Brooks collectors have seen this photo of Brooks & Mickey Mantle from 1964 game action and there always was a fun debate whether the Mick was actually safe or out.

Here is that photo signed by both:

https://i.imgur.com/blCI6dS.jpg

And here is an AP press photo (watermark removed on my copy) taken about a second later showing that Mantle was indeed safe:

https://i.imgur.com/MEe0IDD.jpg

BaltOrioles 01-16-2020 02:08 PM

Orioles
 
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Originally Posted by Mark70Z (Post 1947507)
Day 16 (January 16, 2020 – 016)

Alan (BaltOrioles) is the expert on basically everything Orioles related (programs to include minor league, picture packs, postcards, team issue photos…well, you get the drift; “everything”. In fact it’s even rumored that he was a ball player for a minor league Orioles team. Well, he’s been very generous and helpful when it comes to Orioles items and sent me the two following team issue postcards. They are a 1977 team issue postcard (less green on the bottom right) and a 1978 team issue postcard (more green bottom right). At the time I didn’t even know there was a difference.

Mark,

Thanks for the kind words. I can't believe all the great items that people are posting. I'm out west visiting the granchildren for a week, so my posts will be a little sporadic. I'll save the minor league story for another time.

For those interested, Mark correctly identified Jonathan Villar as the most recent Orioles player to hit for the cycle. The other two are Aubrey Huff and Felix Pie.

Mark70Z 01-16-2020 02:35 PM

Oriole Pins
 
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Does everyone have nicer items than me :eek:

Mark70Z 01-16-2020 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ripfan008 (Post 1947514)
Here are a few more Orioles odds and ends from my collection:

1959 Home Run Derby Gus Triandos:

1959 Kiwanis Club Ernie Johnson:

1964 Rawlings Glove Box Brooks:

1967 Topps Punch-Out Boog (3-card strip)

Mike,

Man, love your collection of items. I've been debating, pretty much since I've been collecting, to pick up or not pick up the 1964 Rawlings glove box cutout. I've had the opportunity to purchase a few times over the years, but never acquired one. Really don't know why specifically, but I sure like the one you have. I guess they all have some type of issue with the corner of the cutout since it was near the Rawlings glove box end. Also, of course I don't have the glove box...

Mark70Z 01-16-2020 02:51 PM

Koolon
 
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Originally Posted by quitcrab (Post 1947517)
Keep That Head Cool ! A Really "Cool" Piece!

Scott,

Those are two really NICE Brooksie items you posted. Yes; both pieces are "KOOL" (not the cigarette of course).

Mark70Z 01-16-2020 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by roarfrom34 (Post 1947528)
Most Brooks collectors have seen this photo of Brooks & Mickey Mantle from 1964 game action and there always was a fun debate whether the Mick was actually safe or out.

Here is that photo signed by both:

And here is an AP press photo (watermark removed on my copy) taken about a second later showing that Mantle was indeed safe:

Bill,

The signed piece is nice enough and the companion piece is just as nice in my view.

docpatlv 01-16-2020 03:53 PM

Great stuff everyone!

orioles70 01-17-2020 01:45 AM

Here is one of the last issues of Baseball Magazine...from December 1964...nice pic of Brooks from his MVP yearhttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...cce6dd29c0.jpg

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