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ooo-ribay 09-11-2021 05:27 PM

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Another dye job on some not too valuable pennants. In fact, I just picked up the "crossed bats" for $23. Speaking of that pennant, did other teams use this design? It would seem they would have.

I used almost a gallon of dye solution on these two pennants :eek: . I'll bet I sprayed them (from the back) over 20 times. Note: the spines haven't been re-sewn, yet.

Fballguy 09-11-2021 07:48 PM

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Another dye job on some not too valuable pennants. In fact, I just picked up the "crossed bats" for $23. Speaking of that pennant, did other teams use this design? It would seem they would have.

I used almost a gallon of dye solution on these two pennants :eek: . I'll bet I sprayed them (from the back) over 20 times. Note: the spines haven't been re-sewn, yet.

Incredible improvement. Really nice job Rob.

How long did the entire process take from start to finish?

UKCardGuy 09-12-2021 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2143866)
Another dye job on some not too valuable pennants. In fact, I just picked up the "crossed bats" for $23. Speaking of that pennant, did other teams use this design? It would seem they would have.

I used almost a gallon of dye solution on these two pennants :eek: . I'll bet I sprayed them (from the back) over 20 times. Note: the spines haven't been re-sewn, yet.

Great job Rob.

With regards to the Cross Bat design....I've catalogued 1,360 pennants in the latest version of the Pennant Catalog here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1poP...ew?usp=sharing

The crossed bat theme is used in a number of pennants, but the giants are the only one that I've seen that use that specific layout. The closest that I've seen is a Hall of Fame pennant (HOF008-TBC) that uses crossed bats with glove and ball.

ooo-ribay 09-12-2021 09:35 AM

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Incredible improvement. Really nice job Rob.

How long did the entire process take from start to finish?

I started after I came home from the bar :p , 9 hours of sleep, finished up by 5:00 the next afternoon.

I remember being disappointed in the Polo Grounds pennant when I got it 25 years ago. This was pre-ebay and I would buy pennants, sight unseen, from Bob Rothschild’s SCD ads.

ooo-ribay 09-12-2021 09:53 AM

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Some more pics. The spines were nasty, too. I also guess I never realized that tassels are one piece of felt, folded over. Neither of these are "display pennants," so I just spray glued the spines back on and called it good. I gotta go through my SFG pennants...I may have a green, "Giant on the bridge" pennant that needs freshening up. I think green was as bad as blue, when it comes to fading.

ooo-ribay 09-12-2021 09:56 AM

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Great job Rob.

With regards to the Cross Bat design....I've catalogued 1,360 pennants in the latest version of the Pennant Catalog here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1poP...ew?usp=sharing

The crossed bat theme is used in a number of pennants, but the giants are the only one that I've seen that use that specific layout. The closest that I've seen is a Hall of Fame pennant (HOF008-TBC) that uses crossed bats with glove and ball.

That's surprising. Aside from the baseball incorporated into the "G", the bats, glove and mask is a very simple design I would have thought to be used by other teams.

thetahat 09-12-2021 01:22 PM

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That's surprising. Aside from the baseball incorporated into the "G", the bats, glove and mask is a very simple design I would have thought to be used by other teams.

Rob’s national league champs pennant seems to be of that mystery maker that we have discussed recently. I do believe Kyle when he says the Trench used that design, but it’s the construction is very unique and unlike Trench. You can see that the spine has sort of a “two ply“ material, not quite felt and not cloth. And this is similar to the World Series Pennants from 1954 through 57 that list both teams, all cloth and all are hard to find unfaded. I believe it is also the same maker as that 1956 NFL championship Pennant that just sold.

ooo-ribay 09-12-2021 01:28 PM

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Rob’s national league champs pennant seems to be of that mystery maker that we have discussed recently. I do believe Kyle when he says the Trench used that design, but it’s the construction is very unique and unlike Trench. You can see that the spine has sort of a “two ply“ material, not quite felt and not cloth. And this is similar to the World Series Pennants from 1954 through 57 that list both teams, all cloth and all are hard to find unfaded. I believe it is also the same maker as that 1956 NFL championship Pennant that just sold.

The spine is strange. I put it in a weak bleach solution and it damn near fell apart. It also “grew” about an inch in length.

thetahat 09-12-2021 06:26 PM

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As a collector of all teams I typically don’t emphasize color variations, if I already have the same design. Exceptions are Dodgers Emmet Kelly pennants and STL Browns pennants with the Apotheosis “shield” logo. I’m always looking for different colors of those. Also Phillies blue jay pennants. So I was psyched to get this incredibly bright and clean blue Jay pennant. It appeared to be a fourth color of the late 40s version: I had gold, powder blue, and what appears to be turquoise. This one is baby blue. Not sure if the turquoise was the same color originally and it “aged” uniformity.

This pennant maker is that other “mystery” we still haven’t figured out … same one that does all the sliding runner pennants.

perezfan 09-12-2021 11:36 PM

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As a collector of all teams I typically don’t emphasize color variations, if I already have the same design. Exceptions are Dodgers Emmet Kelly pennants and STL Browns pennants with the Apotheosis “shield” logo. I’m always looking for different colors of those. Also Phillies blue jay pennants. So I was psyched to get this incredibly bright and clean blue Jay pennant. It appeared to be a fourth color of the late 40s version: I had gold, powder blue, and what appears to be turquoise. This one is baby blue. Not sure if the turquoise was the same color originally and it “aged” uniformity.

This pennant maker is that other “mystery” we still haven’t figured out … same one that does all the sliding runner pennants.

Two beauties! Usually these have faded to a light baby blue or even a sandy grey.

And definitely the same maker as the sliding scene Pennants.


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