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thetahat 07-21-2021 02:52 PM

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Picked this up, had been looking for this for some time, a WGN ‘54 Indians

thetahat 07-21-2021 02:55 PM

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Domer … remember that other ‘54 Indians we discussed a few days ago? These rectangular “pennants” seem to be from the same maker. It’s pretty much a certainty. Curious, do you still think these are Trench?

Domer05 07-21-2021 10:34 PM

Good observation. Well ... I never thought of that banner (or the similar Dodgers and Yankees versions) as being a strong candidate for Trench; but, I certainly couldn't rule them out. They do look alike, don't they?

Unfortunately, these banners were all made pre-1957, which is about when Tom Storm's father purchased Trench. When I last spoke with Mr. Storm, he could not recall ever making banners (or, "rectangular pennants); but he wasn't really involved in the company until the early 1960s, well after these were made.

Whoever did make these banners, I believe they only made them for the league champions in '52 , '53, and '54, correct? Are there others? I can't recall ever seeing a '54 N.Y. Giants banner that complements this Indians one. But if one was made ... I know two guys who'll know ;)

Here's the only vintage photograph I know of showing a banner like this: https://pennantfever.weebly.com/who-we-are.html

This photo was taken in the center field bleachers at Yankee Stadium during the '53 World Series. I believe there's ample evidence that Yankee Stadium, in the mid-1950s, was a Sport Service ballpark. If so, that makes it more likely this banner was supplied to them by Trench.

Fballguy 07-21-2021 11:02 PM

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Curious to get thoughts on this one which just ended tonight for $2300 (plus $5.70 for standard shipping :cool:)

Orig 1911 VANDERBILT CUP AUTO RACE Souvenir PENNANT 34" Savannah Georgia

https://ebay.us/qOXEAH

It seems way off to me (despite the sellers guaranteed authenticity). It's very white for 110 years old. Also interesting, it looks nothing like 1910 or 1912 Vanderbilt Cup pennants, neither of which has sewn on letters or images. In fact there is another 1911 Cup pennant that does closely resemble the 1910 and 1912 pennants (and it sold for $5700+ on ebay about 10 years ago). No pin holes seems unlikely as well. Lastly, the image of the car in tonights auction shows only a single driver, while all other pennants have two in the car. I don't know enough about the race or these pennants to know for sure but I see enough red flags that I wouldn't have bid on it. Also below are the other 1910 thru 1912 Vanderbilt Cup pennants...

bobw 07-22-2021 08:21 AM

Casey Stengel w/ 1953 Banner
 
From Getty...

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...b7dd9f1c_z.jpg

https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/...371c1a48_z.jpg

UKCardGuy 07-22-2021 09:42 AM

New arrivals
 
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A couple of new arrivals today.

Catalog refs: NYG032-TREN and NYYK053-TBC

Not the rarest items but I was happy to pick them up in good condition at a good price.

Any ideas about the manufacturer of the Yankees pennant?

Fballguy 07-22-2021 09:55 AM

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A couple of new arrivals today.

Catalog refs: NYG032-TREN and NYYK053-TBC

Not the rarest items but I was happy to pick them up in good condition at a good price.

Any ideas about the manufacturer of the Yankees pennant?

Yankees looks like a modern creation? Looks stiff and has creases.

UKCardGuy 07-22-2021 12:23 PM

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Yankees looks like a modern creation? Looks stiff and has creases.

Hi Rob, it is a stiffer variety pennant. But it seems consistent with others that I have from the 1960s. I've taken a couple of close up photos.

I'm open to opinions.

Fballguy 07-22-2021 01:45 PM

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Hi Rob, it is a stiffer variety pennant. But it seems consistent with others that I have from the 1960s. I've taken a couple of close up photos.

I'm open to opinions.

Yeah...Looks like it could be 60s up close. Egner's book labels it 1950s, which would imply soft material. The book is probably just off a decade....or perhaps the material changed over time from the 50s to the 60s.

ooo-ribay 07-22-2021 02:42 PM

The Yankees pennant looks good to me. Couldn’t tell you who made it. :confused:


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