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ooo-ribay 07-10-2021 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 2121004)
I'd say that is maybe PPIE for Panama Pacific International Exposition (1915).

evidence?

ooo-ribay 07-10-2021 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 2121825)
I'm sure there are plenty of today's SJWs that would attempt to cancel the Brooklyn Bum, and every pennant on which he appears.

SJWs? Are we getting political again? :confused:

perezfan 07-10-2021 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2121838)
SJWs? Are we getting political again? :confused:

Edited to say that some people like the nickname "Bums" as a term of endearment, and some may not.

erikc21 07-10-2021 01:56 PM

We’ve covered this topic a lot, but I still enjoy a good before and after picture. I try to stay away from the color red, but this one improved quite a bit imho.

It’s a rainy and gloomy day here so the lighting doesn’t show the ‘after’ as well as I’d like.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...6b55fe2c42.jpg

Hankphenom 07-10-2021 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 2121846)
I thought that's how they branded themselves... social justice being their objective. If there's a negative connotation, let me know and I will delete comment. Nevertheless, I don't think this faction would be tolerant of a team called "The Bums", represented by a cartoonish Hobo-like mascot. Willard Mullin may be the next to go the same route as Dr. Suess.

C'mon, Mark. Please try to be better than this.

perezfan 07-10-2021 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Hankphenom (Post 2121848)
C'mon, Mark. Please try to be better than this.

Ok- I cleaned it up... thanx

Fballguy 07-10-2021 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Hankphenom (Post 2121848)
C'mon, Mark. Please try to be better than this.

I didn't see anything wrong with it. Everything he said was true. Only a matter of time before the Chiefs, Indians and Braves have new names. Ant Jemima and Uncle Ben both gone. I know plenty of black people who are pissed about that. Who decides what's offensive anyway? A vocal minority it seems.

Fballguy 07-10-2021 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by erikc21 (Post 2121847)
We’ve covered this topic a lot, but I still enjoy a good before and after picture. I try to stay away from the color red, but this one improved quite a bit imho.

It’s a rainy and gloomy day here so the lighting doesn’t show the ‘after’ as well as I’d like.

Great result Erik!

Hankphenom 07-10-2021 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Fballguy (Post 2121867)
I didn't see anything wrong with it. Everything he said was true. Only a matter of time before the Chiefs, Indians and Braves have new names. Ant Jemima and Uncle Ben both gone. I know plenty of black people who are pissed about that. Who decides what's offensive anyway? A vocal minority it seems.

So who IS going to decide? You? Mark? I can, however, tell you who decided when slavery was legal. I can tell you who decided when Native Americans were being marched into oblivion. I can guess that a poll of Germans in 1946 would have shown overwhelming support for keeping the Swastika as the country's symbol. If things swing a little too far in the direction of trying to correct America's long and sordid history of oppression of minorities of all kinds, that seems a small price to pay in the ledger of atonement. I suspect, though, that many of the objectors have no interest in atonement of any kind, and probably little awareness that there is anything to atone for.

ChiefBeef 07-10-2021 03:12 PM

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Also, Randy, I think Egner was just showing different designs; not necessarily color variations. Your red probably has the same “value” as a gray example.

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Originally Posted by Fballguy (Post 2121753)
Is there a color version of Egner's book? Mine is black and white. How can you tell what color his pictures are?

Someone suggested there was a Kindle Version, and sure enough there is with color. My original thoughts came from the print version which is not in color. My thoughts on color came from internet searches. I have attached three versions here. One is from eBay and it was described as green and gold. The one that looks gray turns out to be a bad picture of a green one, BUT, the logos match.

Also, to be fully correct with my interpretations, the pennants depicted in Enger's book do not match up with the logos. The left side is different, and looks to be brown.

I got the one I have with the maroon background from Wheatland AH so I am sure it is most likely legit. I will try to follow up and see if I can get any further history from them.


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